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Turkey wants to buy 40 new F-16 block70 and 80 F-16 modernization to the Viper standard

It's funny because once again,it shows Erdogan's character and mindset:

He stubbornly refused to throw away the S-400s and stop his approach to Russia.He mocked the Americans about it.

When he came back from NY,he was angry because Biden didn't even meet him and then he announced he would buy a second batch of S-400s and also jet fighters,submarines,aircraft engines,aircraft and other equipment from Russia. He met with Putin and came back disappointed.

And now,after boasting that they would upgrade the F-16s on their own...they try to appease the Americans and find a realistic solution to the THKs problems.
Politics is a complex game. One has to be like water to break mountains.
Just came here to dunk on those idiots who said we didn't need F-35, we didn't need more planes, Greek Rafale meant nothing :D

What happened?

Going back to PKK supporting America to ask for more F16s? :D Clowns


At least I wanted to buy Gripen E
Bye....no need to come back
 
This is the reality ladies and gentlemen. At the end of the day, all sensible nation's turn to the US military hardware due to advance capabilities, very high MTBF, and best buy for the cost. I respect Turkey for making a sensible decision coming back to it's old friends and hopefully forming ties again that have been damaged.
Isn't it hilarious after all of Erdogan's mocking of Biden and the US and the loud statements about keeping the S-400s and buying whatever they want,now he folds again like a snake. And all the statements of buying fighter jets and submarines from Russia and now suddenly "hey sir,can you give us some F-16 Vipers? We love Amerika" :P

But seriously,I'm sure Lockheed Martin will pressure the government and Congress about the deal. After all,it's good money.

Remember,he did the same with Putin a few years ago:

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Politics is a complex game. One has to be like water to break mountains.
Yeah but diplomacy is one thing and f*cking everything with a childish foreign policy and then suddenly changing your mind after you made bold statements of "We are a sovereign country,nobody can tell Turkey what to buy",that sir,that is another matter.
 
It's funny because once again,it shows Erdogan's character and mindset:

He stubbornly refused to throw away the S-400s and stop his approach to Russia.He mocked the Americans about it.

When he came back from NY,he was angry because Biden didn't even meet him and then he announced he would buy a second batch of S-400s and also jet fighters,submarines,aircraft engines,aircraft and other equipment from Russia. He met with Putin and came back disappointed.

And now,after boasting that they would upgrade the F-16s on their own...they try to appease the Americans and find a realistic solution to the THKs problems.
Nicely summed
 
Isn't it hilarious after all of Erdogan's mocking of Biden and the US and the loud statements about keeping the S-400s and buying whatever they want,now he folds again like a snake. And all the statements of buying fighter jets and submarines from Russia and now suddenly "hey sir,can you give us some F-16 Vipers? We love Amerika" :P

But seriously,I'm sure Lockheed Martin will pressure the government and Congress about the deal. After all,it's good money.

Remember,he did the same with Putin a few years ago:

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Yeah but diplomacy is one thing and f*cking everything with a childish foreign policy and then suddenly changing your mind after you made bold statements of "We are a sovereign country,nobody can tell Turkey what to buy",that sir,that is another matter.
Every country on the planet does that. Look at American foreign policy. As I said you have to be flexible like water ti break mountains. Stubborn people lose
 
40 F-16 block70s will reply to 24 Greek Rafales

if USA says NO F-16V to Turkey
then 2nd batch of S400 from Russia


BIDEN will not have to right blame Turkey for buying 2nd batch of S400 from Russia .. even Fighter Jets
 
40 F-16 block70s will reply to 24 Greek Rafales

if USA says NO F-16V to Turkey
then 2nd batch of S400 from Russia


BIDEN will not have to right blame Turkey for buying 2nd batch of S400 from Russia .. even Fighter Jets
If you look at it it's tit for tat:

HAF: 84 F-16V and 24 Rafale=108
THK: 40 F-16V and 70 upgrades to F-16V=110

What if Biden tells Turkey to get rid of the S-400s? The first batch and of course cancel the second one.
Every country on the planet does that. Look at American foreign policy. As I said you have to be flexible like water ti break mountains. Stubborn people lose
But that's why I pointed that out. Because Erdy is extremely "f*ck it all" type and then when he doesn't get it his way he gets angry. And then when he realizes it's not working,he goes back crawling and apologizes and sucks up. And all his bold statements and big words are nothing. That's not diplomacy or politics,that's a joke.
 
Remember,he did the same with Putin a few years ago:

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I've noticed this about Turkey's foreign policy in recent years. There is a lot of flip flop because Turkey's interests are almost as diverse as that of US! Turkey's position with respect to China, Russia and US has swung from one way to another dramatically. :laugh:
 
If you look at it it's tit for tat:

HAF: 84 F-16V and 24 Rafale=108
THK: 40 F-16V and 70 upgrades to F-16V=110

40 F-16V + 80 upgrades to F-16V + 35 upgrades to OZGUR ( block70 standard with AESA Radar ) = 155

also 83 CCIP modernized F-16 block52
and 29 F-16 block50+ which entered into inventory in 2011-2012



What if Biden tells Turkey to get rid of the S-400s? The first batch and of course cancel the second one.


BIDEN has no right to say anything about S400 , because of Turkey will not have F-35
 
I've noticed this about Turkey's foreign policy in recent years. There is a lot of flip flop because Turkey's interests are almost as diverse as that of US! Turkey's position with respect to China, Russia and US has swung from one way to another dramatically. :laugh:
It's a schizophrenic foreign policy. They've managed to open so many fronts and make so many enemies it's ridiculous.
Then they play victim. Oh Yunanistan doesn't want peace,we want dialogue and peaceful solution,but look! Yunanistan provokes! *sends the navy to harass greek and french ships*...oh look,we are peaceful people,but we are losing our patience!
Shoots down Russian Su-24...."haha stupit Russian we fak u"....Putin gets angry "we apologize,we will buy S-400s".
Buys S-400s...Americans get angry "haha you can't tell us what to do".....gets kicked out of the F-35 program "oh yeah? we'll make our own 5th generation stealth fighter!"
The Americans put sanctions...."haha it's good,because without sanctions we wouldn't develop all these indigenous fighters"
Mocks Macron openly about his personal life....then asks for meeting. Gets nothing. Hur dur French support Yunanistan.
Goes to USA and expects to be welcomed by Biden. Doesn't get a meeting. Announces a second batch of S-400s.
At the same time sells ships and drones to Ukraine. Announces he will buy fighter jets and submarines from Russia.
Meets Putin. Doesn't get what he wants. Sends letter to Americans "hey...we would like to buy some F-16s...."

Meanwhile Germany's new government might stop selling submarines to Turkey.
BIDEN has no right to say anything about S400 , because of Turkey will not have F-35
Oh I believe he does have a say.
 
It's a schizophrenic foreign policy. They've managed to open so many fronts and make so many enemies it's ridiculous.
Then they play victim. Oh Yunanistan doesn't want peace,we want dialogue and peaceful solution,but look! Yunanistan provokes! *sends the navy to harass greek and french ships*...oh look,we are peaceful people,but we are losing our patience!
Shoots down Russian Su-24...."haha stupit Russian we fak u"....Putin gets angry "we apologize,we will buy S-400s".
Buys S-400s...Americans get angry "haha you can't tell us what to do".....gets kicked out of the F-35 program "oh yeah? we'll make our own 5th generation stealth fighter!"
The Americans put sanctions...."haha it's good,because without sanctions we wouldn't develop all these indigenous fighters"
Mocks Macron openly about his personal life....then asks for meeting. Gets nothing. Hur dur French support Yunanistan.
Goes to USA and expects to be welcomed by Biden. Doesn't get a meeting. Announces a second batch of S-400s.
At the same time sells ships and drones to Ukraine. Announces he will buy fighter jets and submarines from Russia.
Meets Putin. Doesn't get what he wants. Sends letter to Americans "hey...we would like to buy some F-16s...."

Meanwhile Germany's new government might stop selling submarines to Turkey.

Oh I believe he does have a say.
Never knew Greece is also called Yunanistan.
 
Oh I believe he does have a say.


for what ?

Turkey doesnt buy F-35 , but F-16V
USA says the S-400 can collect valuable electronic intelligence on the America’s newest Fighter jet F-35
F-16 has no this situation

btw Greece has S300

We will see now what about USA ?
Foe or Friend
 
US will release F16, shouldn't be any problem.
 
for what ?

Turkey doesnt buy F-35 , but F-16V
USA says the S-400 can collect valuable electronic intelligence on the America’s newest Fighter jet F-35
F-16 has no this situation
But this is why Turkey was put on sanctions. Because of the S-400s and the approach to Russia. It's not just the S-400s. It's the whole attitude and stance of AKPs Turkey with Putin. If you think the Americans will stick to typical stuff because it's not F-35,you're wrong.
I'm sure the defence industry will pressure them for this,but the Government and the Congress still have the final word. And right now,Biden's administration is pretty darn pissed off at Erdogan.

btw Greece has S300
Greece has S-300s as a result of Turkey's threats and unrelenting stance. You know they were going to Cyprus. You forced us to buy them and put them in Crete as a solution. The Americans know that too. And besides,the S-300PMU1 is way older than the S-400...
Never knew Greece is also called Yunanistan.
Evet.
 
This deal will bring turkish and americans ideologies more closer.What is imprtant is that Turkey should not trust America and NATO.
 
Some wise man once said,'Never put all the eggs in one basket'.
A wise Sultan read that quote on internet.
What did he do, he took out all the eggs from the basket and starting throwing in different baskets as if he's playing basket ball.
Result? All the eggs are broken.
What he does? He plans to get egg by raising a chicken.
Problem? Chicken is not giving eggs.
What does he do? Well, there he goes to the market.
The end?
 
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