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Turkey shoots down "Russian Jet" near border

Dude .. You're asking for me to be a man ? Take a look at your own posts, Childish chest beatings, Silly caricatures and offensive pics of dead tortured servicemen, Massive delusions of grandeur

And pls stop quoting me
then stop trolling and spread wrong information dickhead!
 
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...said many time, Syria is - intenationaly recognized county (or isn't it) with one legitimate force who officially asked Russia in to assist fighting illegal internation "comunity" torrorising the country. Therefore, Russin is only legitimate force in the region due to int law...
..Saying that i.e only Syria should protect it's aircpace (not Russia) from invasions ... well ... say to pooosey erdogan who, just after ambushing returning to base su-24 the first thing did is ran to NATO to suckk cucks in there for they helping him/cover ..
.. then all the rubbish about turkmen - .. yeah -yeah, "bad Assad just came to kill nice civilian turkmen just for fun" (must be), - reality is that there are just terrorist from all over the World (and particularly 1-2000 terrorist from Russian/Caucases) torrorising the nation/country of Syria (could have seen the "civilian turkmen" who were killing and torturing the body of Russian pilot - hi is/was member of 'Grey Wolfs' the internal turkey terrorist groups and son of Head of some small city in turkey) .. so please tell more about "civilian farmers turkmen who just for nothing slottered by bad Russians and Assad"... than the main reason to opperate in the north on Syria - to lock the border with turky, the country with spreads terror to Syrian territory / supply, funding, healing bastards, trades ISIS oil, stollen arts and so on ...

Source: Erdogan's Twisted Logic: S-400 Must Not Shoot Down Turkish Jets Over Syria Read more: http://sputni | Page 4

... so fcuck off...

Downed in 17 seconds? Where Turkey’s story of Su-24 violating airspace just doesn’t add up — RT News

p.s Turkey arrests two journalists on terrorism charges

Source: Why is there a sudden fond of Russia all over the world. | Page 2

RUssian police arbitrarily took 24 Turkish bussinesmen into custody in a commercial fair in Moscow and they will be kept in detention for 10 days...
Your country has no laws and rules... act like a mafia state...
 
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The crew of the Russian Sukhoi Su-24M 'Fencer' strike aircraft downed by Turkey on 23 November may not have been able to hear radio warnings issued by the Turkish Air Force, Russian sources tell IHS Jane's .

Turkish authorities have stated that the aircraft was warned 10 times within a five-minute period. However, the surviving crewmember told Russian media on 25 November that he and the aircraft commander, who was shot from the ground while parachuting, did not receive the signal.

Russian specialists familiar with the R-862 model VHF radio installed on the Su-24M say it requires an optional add-on receiver module in order to receive emergency channel transmissions in the ultra-high frequency (UHF) and very high frequency (VHF) bands.

Russian Su-24M communications equipment blamed for shootdown | IHS Jane's 360
 
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Russia is in a massive decline at the moment with a collapsing economy which has shrunk %4 of GDP in Q3 2015 and the following quarters are predicted to be the same.

It also has a shrinking population that will become extinct in the next century.

In 15-20 years time Turkey will surpass Russia population wise, have x10 better economy and x10 better indigenous military equipment.
 
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Russia is in a massive decline at the moment with a collapsing economy which has shrunk %4 of GDP in Q3 2015 and the following quarters are predicted to be the same.

It also has a shrinking population that will become extinct in the next century.

In 15-20 years time Turkey will surpass Russia population wise, have x10 better economy and x10 better indigenous military equipment.

You forget who is the backer of Russia?

Just like many predict collapse of Egypt economy but many forget they have Saudi finance to back them. Until now, Egypt are on military buying spree with Rafale, Mistral LHD and many weapons.
 
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5 OCTOBER 2015: Syria conflict: Nato warns Russia on air strikes - BBC News

Syria conflict: Nato warns Russia on air strikes


Nato has urged Russia to end air strikes "on the Syrian opposition and civilians", days after Moscow began raids to support Syria's government.

Moscow says it is targeting Islamic State and other Islamist positions, but US-led allies and Turkey say government opponents are targeted.

Turkish F-16 fighter jets were scrambled after a Russian plane entered Turkey's air space on Saturday.

Russia said the violation was for just a few seconds and due to poor weather.

Saturday's interception took place near Yayladagi in the southern Hatay region, Turkey says. The foreign ministry in Ankara said it had summoned the Russian ambassador to issue a "strong protest".

Turkish jets patrolling the border were also "harassed" by an unidentified plane on Sunday, Turkey said.

A statement by Nato's 28 members, that include Turkey, warned of "the extreme danger of such irresponsible behaviour" and urged Russia "to cease and desist".

US Secretary of State John Kerry said Turkey would have been within its rights to shoot the jets down.

"The Turkish Armed Forces are clearly instructed," Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu told Turkish TV. "Even if it is a flying bird, it will be intercepted."


But he played down the possibility of a "Turkey-Russia crisis", saying that channels between the two countries remained open.

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Analysis - Jonathan Marcus, BBC Defence & Diplomatic Correspondent
The Russian incursion into Turkish air space has set alarm bells ringing in Nato with Alliance ambassadors describing it as "irresponsible behaviour".

The US Secretary of State John Kerry has also expressed his concern, noting that this is "precisely the kind of thing" Washington warned about in pressing Russia for talks to avoid mid-air incidents.

Turkish jets shot down a Syrian Mig-fighter in March of last year. Another Syrian aircraft, possibly a helicopter, was shot down last May.

Nato has called on Russia to "take all necessary measures" to ensure that such violations do not take place in the future. American sources claim that, far from being an accident, the Russian pilots knew exactly what they were doing.

As the Russian air campaign moves into a higher gear, this episode illustrates some of the wider dangers involved.
 
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May it be because of scale of the map ?


I am tired of reading some westerners claim Turkey buys ISIS oil with no legal evidence.

The fact is;

1. U.S. Says Syria Is Buying Oil From ISIS

2. European Countries Buying Oil from Islamic State Terrorists, Says EU Ambassador

3. Turns out that Russians are in oil trade with ISIS

To a certain extent, i can understand The West making black propaganda against Turkey which is mostly muslim and their historical enemy. But, i have difficulties to understand some muslims or some easterners being whiter than whites...

(Forum did not allow me to give links because i am new. Anyway, you can easliy find them by Googleing.
as i say most of the oil going to your country

it could be some go somewhere else but still your country is the main buyer
even in your articles this is about very small quantities in Europe and not something governments can clearly manage

there is no propaganda there. NYT is the best newspaper ever in the world. very professional.

it is not like press tv or your Erdogan cheat newspapers or al arabiya wahhabi newspaper
 
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Doesnt change the fact that Chinese have the smallest penises in the world.

Are you trying to compensate for something little Chinese man?

Indeed the goats know the size of Turks' very well,no wonder you are nicknamed goat-pumping Turks. However I do know the size of your brain, which was spoken clearly and loudly on TV by your PM: "There's not a 180 degree difference between our Islam and ISIS's, there's a 360 degree difference". My suggestion to the Turks: go back to school and finish at least y5 maths subject.
 
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In 1983 South Korean passenger plane Downey by Russia 269 person dead cause of its border Violations.Pls somebody explain why didn't Russian warned them 10 times although its a civilian plane? Which county can do such a terrible thing?
- Ding Dong.
Answer is Russia....
Sake of remember to S.Korean who dead in plane...
 
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Turkey-Russia jet downing: Erdogan 'saddened' over plane: BBC News

Recep Tayyip Erdogan said he wished the incident had not happened and hoped it would not happen again.

He has so far refused to apologise to Russia, accusing Moscow of "playing with fire" in its Syria operations.

The president's remarks came as Turkey warned its citizens against non-essential travel to Russia.

Analysis: Mark Lowen, BBC News, Istanbul
He mentioned the "s" word - but not the one Vladimir Putin wanted.

Recep Tayyip Erdogan's expression of "sadness" is an olive branch. But President Putin says he expects a "sorry" from his Turkish counterpart, refusing to answer the phone to Mr Erdogan until it's uttered.

Both strongmen leaders are trying a difficult balancing act - pleasing their nationalist supporters at home while trying not to destroy a vital bilateral relationship.

Moscow says it will re-impose visa restrictions on Turks from January. Ankara has warned against "all but essential travel" for its citizens to Russia. There is talk of wider economic sanctions and tough rhetoric - President Putin calling Turkey an "accomplice of terror", President Erdogan saying Russia should not "play with fire".

But the two countries depend on each other economically - Russia is Turkey's second-largest trading partner - and they need to unite to defeat Islamic State. So it's still likely they'll avoid this escalating out of control. Expect more inching forward in the days ahead, if not the full-blown apology that both sides want.

Mr Erdogan has asked for a meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin, but Mr Putin wants an apology from Turkey before he will agree to talks.
 
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The Wall Street Journal: U.S.Urges Turkey to Seal the Boarder

I say Mr.Putin is playing a big fire. Can't help to ask what about those seblings
 
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