Turkey shoots down "Russian Jet" near border

[Gibbs]

Turkey's rhetoric has always been the same since the very beginning of the incident. Cold headed and calm. While Russians are still in rage to say the least. Though it's normal. They played with fire, and they got shit on all over their 50 years of arrogance.

We have informed the world through UN and our alies through NATO as we should have. We also have informed Russian officials about the whys and hows of the incident as well. As a result we enjoy the world's support while Putin is too busy with trying to save face by making retarded declarations about Turkey and escalating the situation despite pretty much every country that matters in the World accepted Turkey's version as the truth.

Btw, I doubt Erdogan said that since yesterday he said: the result would be the same if a Russian jet to violate Turkish airspace once again.

It's from the BBC and quoted off the French Television.. You can stay in denial

Like i said all the chest beating in the press and in online forums will die down when the euphoria ends and the reality sets in.. Looks like atleast for the Turkish authorities including Erdogan it has started to seep through, Just 48 hours after.. Over jingoistic Turkish posters on online forums will take while longer

 

[ptldM3]

lol

Are you for real? The highest Russian officials have made the most retarded accusations possible against Turkey out of pure rage.

Russian intelligence which is arguably one of the best in the world has accused Turkey of supporting ISIS. Brush it off all you want but then retired NATO Supreme Allied Commander general Wesley Clark accused Turkey of supporting ISIS. Iraq accused Turkey of supporting ISIS, Egypt has accused Turkey of supporting ISIS, Iran has accused Turkey of supporting ISIS. Syria has accused Turkey of supporting ISIS. Kurdish commanders have accused Turkey of supporting ISIS.



You have high level Russians, American, Egyptians, Iraqi, Iranian, Syrian, government officials saying the same thing. Must be a giant conspiracy. Everyone is lying, the thousands of violent Jihadist terrorists must have magically teleported into Syria. The hundreds of fuel trucks (525+ destroyed by Russia) (100+ destroyed by the US and allies) must have been transporting and selling oil to the martians.

Russia did the most pathetic thing like hitting aid trucks which is now apparently being denied by Russian military officials.

Yes, yes...."aid trucks" we all know what "aid" it was and for who. Borat is pissed.

A rage which is the result of Russia's incompetence in finding a suitable answer against Turkey to ease the butt pain of young Ivans such as yourself. Which resulted in knee-jerk emotional, thus, dumb declarations by the Russian leadership despite Turkey's cold headed efforts to de-escalate.

If anyone is incompetent it is Turkey, Turkey was lucky Russia did not start bombarding them. Turkey decides to shoot down a aircraft in which they claim that they did not know the nationality of (idiots). Instead of making visual contact and escorting the aircraft (which is standard procedure) they decide to shoot it down even though it was supposedly in Turkish airspace of mere seconds and posed no threat.

In the mean time Iraq has accused of Turkish aircraft of again violating its airspace, along with Greece, Cyprus , Syria, ect. Turkey feels that they can violate anyone's airspace with impunity but then start pouting when their airspace is violated. It's just a matter of time before the Turkey violates Syrian airspace and when they do Russia will down Turkish jets. Iraqi needs to also send Turkey a message by shooting Turkish intruders down. By then Turkey will have set a world record for so many countries shoot down Turkish aircraft for border violations.

Bratan, it is Turkey you are talking about. Not Ukraine or Georgia. It already cost you a jet and a helicopter along with their pilots. I mean, I'm not saying you shouldn't take revenge, but you gotta do a lot more than not having our tomatoes into your pale vitaminless bodies or hitting aid trucks and then denying it Pathetic.

Russia is bombarding the hell out of "turkmen", FSA dirtbags and Turkish trucks right on Turkey's border and Turkey is doing nothing after it warned and threatened Russia to not bomb turkmen. What is Turkey going to do about it? Now with SU-30s escorting bombers and S-400s able to shoot down Turkish aircraft deep inside its territory, the Turks are sitting back and spreading their butt cheeks like they have been doing for decades. I think Turkey needs to run back to NATO for "consultation" and then keep repeating they did not know who they shot down.


The cherry on the cake is that Turkey is going to lose billions and have their economy shrink do to sanctions. Russia will continue destroying the FSA and bombing turkmen, and building up the airbase in Latakia which recently had S-400 delivered which covers much of Turkish airspace.

Due to Turkey's irrational and hot headed move they:

Lost a partner.
Got sanctions imposed.
Forced Russia to move air defense systems right on the Turkish border.
And intensified Russia's resolve to take out the FSA.

 

[Immanuel]

ahaha Turkey is turning out to be the Pakistan of that area, pretty much everybody hates them

Some of posts from the Turk members are just too hilarious. Pussies ran to NATO quicker that a rabbit gets fucked. Already the 1st battery of the S-400 is deployed, heard a whole regiment will be online by mid next week.

 

[ptldM3]

No they wont.. Russians will make them pay today or sometime in the future.. My point was to show the futile chest thumping here by some Turkish posters, Way over playing their importance and capabilities.. Shooting down a bomber with combat air craft and killing in cold blood an identified combatant in a non conflict situation is not something to crow about, How to defuse the situation after mind boggling stupidity would be

Without retorting to simply disgusting posting pics of desecrating dead service men, Silly chest beating, Accusing neutrals of being anti Turkish, They need to understand the utter stupid action taken by their leadership for very brittle reasons of territorial integrity.. Stupid actions that the general public of Turkey will have to pay for with disastrous consequences



Futile attempt at damage control.. It's too late

These are the same people that booed the victims of the Paris attacks and shouted Allah Akbar, what were you expecting? What is disturbing is that shooting downed airmen in a parachute is a war crime by the Geneva Convention and the world is quiet. Even more disturbing is that the body was desecrated by being stripped and by the looks of the pilots face which was cut, swollen and bloody i would say its possible they beat him to death or desecrated him further.

I recall someone said that a US official praised the terrorists for "defending their country" ironic that now war crimes are praised and foreign jihadist now call Syria their country.

 

[pher]

ahaha Turkey is turning out to be the Pakistan of that area, pretty much everybody hates them

Some of posts from the Turk members are just too hilarious. Pussies ran to NATO quicker that a rabbit gets fucked. Already the 1st battery of the S-400 is deployed, heard a whole regiment will be online by mid next week.

quite right, this thread has become a platform for the world to condemn turkey for its barbaric action.

 

[TurAr]

Russian intelligence which is arguably one of the best in the world has accused Turkey of supporting ISIS. Brush it off all you want but then retired NATO Supreme Allied Commander general Wesley Clark accused Turkey of supporting ISIS. Iraq accused Turkey of supporting ISIS, Egypt has accused Turkey of supporting ISIS, Iran has accused Turkey of supporting ISIS. Syria has accused Turkey of supporting ISIS. Kurdish commanders have accused Turkey of supporting ISIS.



You have high level Russians, American, Egyptians, Iraqi, Iranian, Syrian, government officials saying the same thing. Must be a giant conspiracy. Everyone is lying, the thousands of violent Jihadist terrorists must have magically teleported into Syria. The hundreds of fuel trucks (525+ destroyed by Russia) (100+ destroyed by the US and allies) must have been transporting and selling oil to the martians.

If Iraq, Egypt, Iran, Syria and Russia said that and the Kurdish "commanders" approved, then it must be true huh? What a joke.

The whole fucking World said what Turkey did was within its rights and you deny it. But you come to me with what the dictators of some shitholes said about Turkey...

If anyone is incompetent it is Turkey, Turkey was lucky Russia did not start bombarding them. Turkey decides to shoot down a aircraft in which they claim that they did not know the nationality of (idiots). Instead of making visual contact and escorting the aircraft (which is standard procedure) they decide to shoot it down even though it was supposedly in Turkish airspace of mere seconds and posed no threat.

In the mean time Iraq has accused of Turkish aircraft of again violating its airspace, along with Greece, Cyprus , Syria, ect. Turkey feels that they can violate anyone's airspace with impunity but then start pouting when their airspace is violated. It's just a matter of time before the Turkey violates Syrian airspace and when they do Russia will down Turkish jets. Iraqi needs to also send Turkey a message by shooting Turkish intruders down. By then Turkey will have set a world record for so many countries shoot down Turkish aircraft for border violations.

Nobody but the handicapped bear would dare bombing Turkish allies right next to Turkish border by ignoring all the previous warnings of Turkey, and Turkey's rules of engagement along the border with Syria. So I'm sure we knew to whom that jet belonged to. Saying "unknown nationality" is just a political move to basically say "it isn't personal". But I wouldn't expect someone like you to understand. That's why you are cheering for Putin's retarded actions while I'm confident about my country's smart diplomacy.

Russia is bombarding the hell out of "turkmen", FSA dirtbags and Turkish trucks right on Turkey's border and Turkey is doing nothing after it warned and threatened Russia to not bomb turkmen. What is Turkey going to do about it? Now with SU-30s escorting bombers and S-400s able to shoot down Turkish aircraft deep inside its territory, the Turks are sitting back and spreading their butt cheeks like they have been doing for decades. I think Turkey needs to run back to NATO for "consultation" and then keep repeating they did not know who they shot down.


The cherry on the cake is that Turkey is going to lose billions and have their economy shrink do to sanctions. Russia will continue destroying the FSA and bombing turkmen, and building up the airbase in Latakia which recently had S-400 delivered which covers much of Turkish airspace.

Due to Turkey's irrational and hot headed move they:

Lost a partner.
Got sanctions imposed.
Forced Russia to move air defense systems right on the Turkish border.
And intensified Russia's resolve to take out the FSA.

Turkmens along with the other rebels under the name of FSA are being bombed almost daily for the past couple of years. Nothing new here. Turkey is welcoming those who had enough.

As I said before, if a Russian jet to violate Turkish airspace once again you would not only end up with a downed jet but also with destroyed SAMs and possibly with a sunken ship.

Do you really think Russia is in a position to impose sanctions on a country like Turkey while Russian economy itself suffering and crumbling under the sanctions?

 

[GURU DUTT]

If Iraq, Egypt, Iran, Syria and Russia said that and the Kurdish "commanders" approved, then it must be true huh? What a joke.

The whole fucking World said what Turkey did was within its rights and you deny it. But you come to me with what the dictators of some shitholes said about Turkey...



Nobody but the handicapped bear would dare bombing Turkish allies right next to Turkish border by ignoring all the previous warnings of Turkey, and Turkey's rules of engagement along the border with Syria. So I'm sure we knew to whom that jet belonged to. Saying "unknown nationality" is just a political move to basically say "it isn't personal". But I wouldn't expect someone like you to understand. That's why you are cheering for Putin's retarded actions while I'm confident about my country's smart diplomacy.



Turkmens along with the other rebels under the name of FSA are being bombed almost daily for the past couple of years. Nothing new here. Turkey is welcoming those who had enough.

As I said before, if a Russian jet to violate Turkish airspace once again you would not only end up with a downed jet but also with destroyed SAMs and possibly with a sunken ship.

Do you really think Russia is in a position to impose sanctions on a country like Turkey while Russian economy itself suffering and crumbling under the sanctions?

what you said you might thing its right but the hard fact is its the russia turkey took for granted they are not french , germans or americans or british who think twice for human rights or fare play when they go in no one comes in between and those who come for time bieng just might win a battle here or there but russians are much more resilient to small losses but there problem is they never forgive and turkey made a huge mistake to shoot down russian jet to save FSA fighters and there illeagel oil convoys now get ready for what happned to germans once and afghans later who still are paying for the war that ened almost 3 decades back

 

[500]

2008. Russia supported Ossetian separatists shoot down Russian Su-25 and murder the pilot. Russia still fully supports them.

 

[TurAr]

what you said you might thing its right but the hard fact is its the russia turkey took for granted they are not french , germans or americans or british who think twice for human rights or fare play when they go in no one comes in between and those who come for time bieng just might win a battle here or there but russians are much more resilient to small losses but there problem is they never forgive and turkey made a huge mistake to shoot down russian jet to save FSA fighters and there illeagel oil convoys now get ready for what happned to germans once and afghans later who still are paying for the war that ened almost 3 decades back

Are you really holding Turkey in the same basket with Georgia and Ukraine? Do you even have the slightest idea what an offense on a country like Turkey would cost for Russia? The 'losses' wouldn't be small I assure you. Putin knows it, that's why we haven't seen anything and we won't as long as Turkey continues to play it smart.

 

[GURU DUTT]

Are you really holding Turkey in the same basket with Georgia and Ukraine? Do you even have the slightest idea what an offense on a country like Turkey would cost for Russia? The 'losses' wouldn't be small I assure you. Putin knows it, that's why we haven't seen anything and we won't as long as Turkey continues to play it smart.

well you still think you can take on france , israel , iraq ,iran, syria and russia & USA at the same time ?

do you think british or the NATO will help turkey in event of a war with russia ?

do you think kurds & yezdies will forget what turkish help to FSA, ISIS & ISIL brought them ?

do you think russia will just make empty boasting and go away after firing a few shots in the air to scare your airforce in helping FSA/ISIS & ISIL ?

do you really think russia will go for a full blown offensive ?

well if you think that all above mentioned then all i can say is good luck turkey

 

[United]

 

[ptldM3]

If Iraq, Egypt, Iran, Syria and Russia said that and the Kurdish "commanders" approved, then it must be true huh? What a joke.

The whole fucking World said what Turkey did was within its rights and you deny it. But you come to me with what the dictators of some shitholes said about Turkey...

This is the typical way a Turk argues. Just deny facts. General Westly Clark former NATO allied command leader stated Turkey supports ISIS. Russia made the same statement, so did, Iraq, Egypt, Syria, ect. I know this is hard to swallow.


As for the "whole world" saying what Turkey did was right, prove that. I did not know the US and possibly a few NATO doormats constitutes as the "whole fucking world". There are countries that have condemned Turkey and many are neutral. Reading English boards or comments in English articles 99% of people condemn Turkey as reckless, accuse Turkey of violating airspace of its neighbors regularly (that is true), and call Turkey a terrorist supporter. Most people around the world are disgusted by Turkey.

Nobody but the handicapped bear would dare bombing Turkish allies right next to Turkish border by ignoring all the previous warnings of Turkey, and Turkey's rules of engagement along the border with Syria. So I'm sure we knew to whom that jet belonged to. Saying "unknown nationality" is just a political move to basically say "it isn't personal". But I wouldn't expect someone like you to understand. That's why you are cheering for Putin's retarded actions while I'm confident about my country's smart diplomacy.

Turkey claimed the aircraft was of unknown nationality because it shit itself, just like it shit itself when it ran for "consultation" and just like it shit itself after Russia bombarded Turkish fighters on the border after all those threats Turkey issued. Russia is itching for the moment Turkey slips up so they can start roasting Borats.

As I said before, if a Russian jet to violate Turkish airspace once again you would not only end up with a downed jet but also with destroyed SAMs and possibly with a sunken ship.

what are you going to destroy the S-400 with? It has a range of 250 miles. It can destroy Turkish jets and cruise missiles over Turkish territory. The funny thing is Russia can bombard Turkey from Russian territory with cruise missiles and conventional ICBMs while at the same time having the ability to shoot down Turkish aircraft due to S-400 coverage yet Turkey does not have these capabilities. You are day dreaming and overestimating what Turkey can and can't do.

Turkey has old aircraft, old diesel subs, no ICBMs, short range cruise missiles, no strategic bombers, ect.

Do you really think Russia is in a position to impose sanctions on a country like Turkey while Russian economy itself suffering and crumbling under the sanctions?

Yes they are in a position to impose sanctions since Russia and Turkey have annual trade of at least 30 billion. Not counting the billions of dollars Russian vacationers infuse into the Turkish economy and all the billionaires and millionaires that do business in Turkey.

 

[flamer84]

These are the same people that booed the victims of the Paris attacks and shouted Allah Akbar, what were you expecting? What is disturbing is that shooting downed airmen in a parachute is a war crime by the Geneva Convention and the world is quiet. Even more disturbing is that the body was desecrated by being stripped and by the looks of the pilots face which was cut, swollen and bloody i would say its possible they beat him to death or desecrated him further.

I recall someone said that a US official praised the terrorists for "defending their country" ironic that now war crimes are praised and foreign jihadist now call Syria their country.

Your hypocrisy is disgusting.,utterly disgusting.But than again,it's the Russian way.

1.Russia is helping the terrorists in Donbass against the LEGITIMATE goverment of Ukraine.If Assad is legitimate the elected Ukrainian goverment is more than that.
2.Russian separatist terrorist supported by Russia have broken every Geneva Convention rule out there from desecrating the bodies of Ukrainian soldiers to humiliating them publicly and torturing them.
3.Russian backed terrorists have downed a civilian airliner killing ALL passengers.
4.If Russia has the right to help Russians in Ukr,so does Turkey for Turkmens.

 

[Kyle Sun]

Are you really holding Turkey in the same basket with Georgia and Ukraine? Do you even have the slightest idea what an offense on a country like Turkey would cost for Russia? The 'losses' wouldn't be small I assure you. Putin knows it, that's why we haven't seen anything and we won't as long as Turkey continues to play it smart.

Your gov rushed to the P5 and NATO.
it reminds me my poodles dog which will hide behind me and keeps barking when she gets into trouble .
Without NATO, you will not bark so loudly

 

[cirr]

Turkey is henceforth known by the world as a country that not only harbours terrorists but also fights alongside the terrorists。