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Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan says Turkey should aim to have no dependency on foreign arms systems by 2023.

ANKARA, Turkey — Turkey has just officially begun constructing its first landing platform dock (LPD) but the country’s president already is talking about future production of an aircraft carrier and even a nuclear vessel.


The production of the TCG Anadolu, Turkey’s first amphibious assault ship, kicked off last month at a high-profile ceremony attended by defense and procurement VIPs and President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

Speaking at the ceremony, Erdogan praised efforts for Turkey’s all indigenous development programs, including the LPD, although he called the ship’s production “a belated move.”

He said that Turkey’s dependence on foreign arms systems has dropped from 80 percent in 2002 — when his government came to power — to 40 percent. “We must aim at zero dependency by the year 2023,” he said.


Erdogan said that the LPD program would hopefully be the first step toward producing a “most elite” aircraft carrier. Then he upped Turkey’s naval ambitions.

“I see it as a major deficiency that we still do not have a nuclear vessel,” he said.

But officials and experts are cautious.

“I am not sure if we can afford such ventures in the short-run,” said one procurement official. “I am not sure, either, if such grand designs would fit our security threat perceptions.”

A London-based Turkey specialist said: “The idea [about a carrier and a nuclear vessel] goes in line with Turkey’s political ambitions. All the same, I’d say, it is as much over-ambitious as Turkey’s political designs.”

In 2013, Turkey announced that it had selected the local shipyard Sedef for its LPD program. In the LPD contract, Sedef is partnered with Spain's Navantia.



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The planned amphibious assault vessel will carry a battalion-sized unit of 1,200 troops and personnel, eight utility helicopters and three unmanned aerial vehicles; it also will transport 150 vehicles, including battle tanks.

It also may have an aircraft platform for vertical takeoff and landing. A ski jump at the front of the deck can be used to launch fighter aircraft.

Metin Kalkavan, chairman of Sedef, told reporters that it was not clear at this stage whether the TCG Anadolu would feature a ski jump. “We’ll decide on that at later stages of the program,” he said.

Industry sources estimate the cost of the contract at over $1 billion.

Under the original production plan the 231-meter-long vessel will be completed within 5½ years. But Erdogan urged Sedef to deliver the vessel within four years.


“That way,” Erdogan said during the ceremony, “you can win further contracts from foreign customers as well as from our government.”

The TCG Anadolu will be deployed on the Aegean Sea, Black Sea and the Mediterranean Sea, as well as on Turkish Navy's operations in the Atlantic and Indian oceans.

Turkey will be the third operator in the world of this ship type after Spain and Australia.

Last year, two Turkish defense firms won more than €200 million (US $343 million) worth of subcontracts in the LPD program

The companies, Aselsan and Havelsan, both state-controlled, announced that the contracts they signed with Sedef involve warfare and electronic systems and their integration.



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Military electronics specialist Aselsan, Turkey's biggest defense company, signed a deal for €127 million. Its work includes communications, satellite and IFF systems, 12.7mm STAMP and 25mm STOP guns, acoustics, sonars, radars, electronic warfare systems, infrared tracking systems, laser warning systems, and cruise systems.

Havelsan's work, worth €87 million, includes a network-supported warfare management system (ADVENT), ship data distribution, a CCTV system, the Link 11/16/22 tactical communications system, an amphibious mission force command center, a landing force command center, and a command, control and information system.

A naval industry official said that programs like LPD would significantly benefit the local industry in earning them capabilities which they did not possess before.

“It is not just the amount of money that will flow into local companies. More importantly it will be the technological capabilities they will learn to produce and improve in further contracts of this type,” he said.

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Nothing really new here but I would love to see a second LHD

The talk of nuclear vessel is interesting but that is a decade long project
 
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Nothing really new here but I would love to see a second LHD

The talk of nuclear vessel is interesting but that is a decade long project

Until now there is no Nuclear Industry in Turkey, which can built Reactor for Aircraft Carrier or Submarines. When you ask me about Power Projection which goes beyond of the Eastern Mediterran, Red Sea and Gulf of Oman, we have it to do with Enemies they are not third World and can even launch an Succesfull Attack on an Aircraft Carrier ! Turkish Navy could need an Carrier which have enough self defence as well Attack Capabillities.

The Money which is required for such Programm we can better invest in UCAV Technology or enhancement of our Industry that they can become Capable to built an manned or Unmanned Medium Range Strategic Bomber.
 
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Until now there is no Nuclear Industry in Turkey, which can built Reactor for Aircraft Carrier or Submarines. When you ask me about Power Projection which goes beyond of the Eastern Mediterran, Red Sea and Gulf of Oman, we have it to do with Enemies they are not third World and can even launch an Succesfull Attack on an Aircraft Carrier ! Turkish Navy could need an Carrier which have enough self defence as well Attack Capabillities.

The Money which is required for such Programm we can better invest in UCAV Technology or enhancement of our Industry that they can become Capable to
built an manned or Unmanned Medium Range Strategic Bomber.

I have a question how can this be possible that "Turkey will be the third operator in the world of this ship type after Spain and Australia."What about USA , France Russia & China all of them have much bigger defense spending and they are really advance in the world. On one end its a good addition to Turkey navy in the acquisition of having cutting edge advance technology in its navy . In stead of spending money on UCAV it would be awesome to equipped an LDP ship with a anti missile defense system like S-400 along with some long range cruise missiles with super sonic speed it would poss a greater threat to Turkish enemy in the region
 
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Was the idea of a full catapult-based aircraft carrier ever brought up in Turkish defence circles?
 
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I have a question how can this be possible that "Turkey will be the third operator in the world of this ship type after Spain and Australia."What about USA , France Russia & China all of them have much bigger defense spending and they are really advance in the world. On one end its a good addition to Turkey navy in the acquisition of having cutting edge advance technology in its navy . In stead of spending money on UCAV it would be awesome to equipped an LDP ship with a anti missile defense system like S-400 along with some long range cruise missiles with super sonic speed it would poss a greater threat to Turkish enemy in the region


It means it will be the third operator of the Juan Carlos type ship.
 
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In stead of spending money on UCAV it would be awesome to equipped an LDP ship with a anti missile defense system like S-400 along with some long range cruise missiles with super sonic speed it would poss a greater threat to Turkish enemy in the region

The Naval design office designs the new naval ship projects in accordance with threat perception of Turkish Republic. The warships to be constructed will be used for some specific missions in crisis times so, the protections of each type are arranged for those criteria.

Milgem Anti-submarine corvette
-8 Anti-ship Missile
-STAMP guns
-3D search radar
-Ares-2N EW system
-Hizir torpedo defence system
-76mm main gun
- RAM missiles
-Genesis CMS

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Istanbul Class Multi-purpose frigate

-16 Anti-ship missiles (Atmaca SSM)
-16 Cell MK-41 VLS
-STAMP+STOP stabilized guns
-3D search radar
-Ares-2N EW
-Hizir Torpedo Defense system
-CIWS
-76mm main gun
-Genesis ADVENT CMS

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TF-2000 Anti-Air Warfare Frigate
-Up to 8000t ship
-150m length
-16 Anti-ship missiles (Atmaca SSM)
-48 cell MK-41 VLS (SM-2 Block-4 missiles)
-Gezgin LACM launch capability
-RAM/CIWS close weapon protection systems
-CAFRAD multi-purpose radar mast (ballistic missiles detection capability)
-127mm main gun
-ARES-2N EW system
-Genesis Advent CMS
-Hizir torpedo defense system
-STAMP/STOP stabilized guns

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Turkey's mini aircraft carriers will be protected by those platforms having VLS.
 
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I've got my eyes set on the CAFRAD project. :D I believe that PN would soon be very interested in this sensor suite.

@cabatli_53

Any plans to upgrade Hisar-O with a 2nd stage booster and and active radar seeker?
 
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I've got my eyes set on the CAFRAD project. :D I believe that PN would soon be very interested in this sensor suite.

@cabatli_53

Any plans to upgrade Hisar-O with a 2nd stage booster and and active radar seeker?


In accordance with Seeker head roadway introduced by Aselsan, There is a Rf+IIR dual seeker head project (2020) aiming to be a part of Turkey's SAM project. If we consider that Turkey is developing own long altitude SAM missiles, I think We will see two Hisar-O (Medium altitude) (1) IIR and (2)RF variant and Hisar-U (Long altitude) (1)RF+IIR dual seeker missiles in following years.

Both Hisar-A and Hisar-O has dual pulse rocket motors !
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and Hisar family will be integrated on Naval platforms to be VL missiles. Thx to TVC control, Hisar is able to do sharp maneuverings after launching.
 
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