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[BLACKEAGLE]

As i1 said, its the kill ratio that matters, but you can't get that in your head because you lack comprehension, y3ou should apply for a2 e4nglish school if they have any in Jordan because those a4rabic school probably teach you about false a4rab superiority.

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1- "I" is always written with a capital letter.
2- "A" is used with singular countable common nouns which start with consonant letters, while "An" is used with nouns start with vowel letters.
3- New sentence, "Y" should be written with a capital letter. You can't write a one sentence that long, so, it should be a paragraph divided into at least three sentences.
4- The names of nationalities and languages whether derived from proper names or not, should begin with capital letters.

Good luck my Afghani friend!

 

[lem34]

Guys be careful remember the peace thread lol

1- "I" is always written with a capital letter.
2- "A" is used with singular countable common nouns which start with consonant letters, while "An" is used with nouns start with vowel letters.
3- New sentence, "Y" should be written with a capital letter. You can't write a one sentence that long, so, it should be a paragraph divided into at least three sentences.
4- The names of nationalities and languages whether derived from proper names or not, should begin with capital letters.

Good luck my Afghani friend!

this does not add any gravitas whatsoever. So you can spell but don't understand comprehension?

 

[BronzePlaque]

When something is completely untrue yes it is. Daily I meet Egyptians here everywhere and we are like brothers to each other. When Egyptians say Saudis treat Egyptians badly then yes it is totally wrong. It is all part of one defaming machine going on but I guess it is the price of power that KSA has to be such a target of propaganda and defaming campaigns everywhere.

Most of my University Doctors are Egyptians. I go to Egyptian cafes to spend my time. I sit with Egyptians I studied with in School a lot so when someone comes and say "Saudis treat Egyptians badly" yes that is completely wrong and baseless.

Well you are saying such things Mosamania..You definitively must be a zionist spy..Shame on you

 

[King Solomon]

When something is completely untrue yes it is. Daily I meet Egyptians here everywhere and we are like brothers to each other. When Egyptians say Saudis treat Egyptians badly then yes it is totally wrong. It is all part of one defaming machine going on but I guess it is the price of power that KSA has to be such a target of propaganda and defaming campaigns everywhere.

Most of my University Doctors are Egyptians. I go to Egyptian cafes to spend my time. I sit with Egyptians I studied with in School a lot so when someone comes and say "Saudis treat Egyptians badly" yes that is completely wrong and baseless.

Maybe you have good attitude and if you do I do respect you for that (even though you called me lowlife insect before). But I hear the same account from most Pakistanis, Egyptians, Iraqis and everyone else who is from outside KSA. Are they all lying? This cannot be so. And absolutely None of KSA members accept any form of criticism of their country even if it is backed by logic. This is a trait I did not notice in others.

Let me illustrate your situation. You study in a good university (which not everyone has the capability to), where teachers are highly paid and qualified right? That is why you notice no discrimination - because in your environment everyone is educated and in high stature. They know how to respect and gain respect.

The same cannot be said for all situations however.

 

[Mahmoud_EGY]

You are doing nothing but spreading this shameful propaganda here.

Please being late in an airport for a flight delay has been used by some shameless people to brainwash Egyptians into hating KSA and apparently it works. OMG Saudi airlines were late they hate Egyptians let us destroy their Embassy. I told you before if there is anyone who hates Saudi airlines it is Saudi people themselves but to use a Flight delay as an excuse for hating a country is beyond disgusting.

I really do petty you. I remember watching this interview of an Egyptian woman talking and crying saying "Saudis hate us because we brought down Mubarak" I really laughed so hard at her but apparently giving her 10 pounds to say those things on TV worked on you and the likes of you. Soem of my friends were in Tahrir square chanting down with Mubarak you know. But Alas I wish they would see you now.

you need to understand that you are not dealing with a person or a rigime you are dealing with the egyptian people i am not talking about airline being late a friend was there and he told me the second they knew he is egyptian they cursed him and his country trated him badly and when he tryed to replay he was goning to be whiped but forget about this why would our prime minster say that you betrayed us you said literly settle your problame with the us then we will get your aid that we promised you said all egyptian workers will be deported if mubark go to trail and alot more you have done not to mention the big one the SALFIS funding

 

[Alienoz_TR]

Agreed. Look at this video to see how the Saudi translation of the Quran is different on critical points as compared to others such as Yusuf Ali's. And look at how they have used this mistranslation to force Hijab down the throat of women and oppress them when actually all Quran says is we must cover s3xual organs and "observe modesty":

Lets not discuss these things, it is upto Muslims who wants to enlighten themselves.

There is Quran, but no one reads It. No one asks why there are so many paranthesis. Added words, meaning.

It should be simple to anyone who reads. We are not riddle solvers.

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

Guys be careful remember the peace thread lol



this does not add any gravitas whatsoever. So you can spell but don't understand comprehension?

What a horrible mistake!

 

[p(-)0ENiX]

guys, about that Kashmir issue..May someone whether from Indian side or Pakistan side provide information here roughly? What did happen? What is the reason? What is the situation atm? PLEASE be objective and tell us the story roughly..THANK YOU in advance

P.S. I know its off topic..sorry for that..but even in this thread, my pakistani brothers and indian friends are discussing about it..so it would be better for Turks who follow this thread to get the idea about this issue

I know Wikipedia isn't exactly the most reliable source, but this should give you quite a lot of information regarding the Kashmir issue.

Kashmir conflict - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Armstrong]

guys, about that Kashmir issue..May someone whether from Indian side or Pakistan side provide information here roughly? What did happen? What is the reason? What is the situation atm? PLEASE be objective and tell us the story roughly..THANK YOU in advance

In '47 when the States of Pakistan and India were being created out of British India, the Princely States and the Provinces that constituted India were given the choice of either joining Pakistan or India. The Muslim majority provinces and states were to be given to Pakistan whilst the rest were to form the State of India. In case of Kashmir, a Muslim majority Princely State, the People of Kashmir wanted to join the newly created Muslim State of Pakistan whilst their Hereditary Ruler (a Hindu) wanted to either remain Independent or secede to India. By the way that Hereditary Ruler was sold the State of Kashmir by the British and he wasn't a native of that land or even a truly hereditary ruler. What became Pakistan came to consist of the Muslim majority Provinces of Punjab, Balochistan, Sindh and KP. The Muslim majority areas of Gurdaspur and Firozpur for God knows what reason were instead given to India. The Province of Punjab had a vast Sikh and Hindu majority in them and it was then consequently divided between a Pakistani Punjab and an Indian Punjab. In the ensuing migration of Muslims to Pakistan and Hindus and Sikhs to India...Millions were butchered by each side. All in all about 5-7 Million People entered the newly created State of Pakistan. Kashmir in this time had still dilly dallied on joining which side; however with an 80% Muslim Majority the Kashmiris wanted to join Pakistan (I should know...I am one) so naturally hostilities arose between the Muslim inhabitants and the Ruler's Troops with many Muslims being massacred and many Non-Muslims suffering in-turn. In this chaos when the massacre of Muslims became unbearable...an armed revolt started taking place in Kashmir with Muslims retaliating against the Ruler's Troops. The Ruler (lets call him the Raja) in turn issued an appeal to India with its Prime Minister Nehru who agreed on the condition that Kashmir secede to India and the Raja complied so Indian Army Soldiers got paratrooped into Kashmir to secure its secession. Pakistan on this side of the border requested the Pathan Tribesmen from Tribal Areas to fight on our behalf because all our armed forces were posted over-seas and so they crossed into Kashmir and started claiming it for Pakistan however because they weren't a disciplined army they in turn engaged in a lot of looting whilst the Indian Army was busy securing the rest of Kashmir. At the end of '48 when a ceasefire (I believe) was signed...Pakistan controlled a little over 1/3 rd of Kashmir and India a little less than 2/3 rd. The Prime Minister of India, Nehru promised the Kashmiri People that a referendum will be held in the State of Kashmir to decide by the People whether they wished to side with India or with Pakistan - 64 years down the lane...that referendum still hasn't happened. India claimed that their actions were legitimate because the Ruler of Kashmir has signed over Kashmir to India however Pakistan retorted that the Ruler of the Indian State of Hyderabad ( A Hindu Majority State with a Muslim Hereditary Ruler) had signed over Hyderabad to Pakistan and yet the Indian Army had invaded it and forcefully absorbed it into the State of India. Consequently, the relations between India and Pakistan remain sour over it with 2 Wars ('48 and '65) fought over Kashmir amidst numerous major (Kargil) and minor skirmishes ! And the area still remains disputed territory.

 

[lem34]

What a horrible mistake!

I am beginning to understand your psyche. I do hope its not similar in all Arabs

 

[NeutralCitizen]

you need to understand that you are not dealing with a person or a rigime you are dealing with the egyptian people i am not talking about airline being late a friend was there and he told me the second they knew he is egyptian they cursed him and his country trated him badly and when he tryed to replay he was goning to be whiped but forget about this why would our prime minster say that you betrayed us you said literly settle your problame with the us then we will get your aid that we promised you said all egyptian workers will be deported if mubark go to trail and alot more you have done not to mention the big one the SALFIS funding

Thank you and you were in the protests correct ?

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

guys, about that Kashmir issue..May someone whether from Indian side or Pakistan side provide information here roughly? What did happen? What is the reason? What is the situation atm? PLEASE be objective and tell us the story roughly..THANK YOU in advance

P.S. I know its off topic..sorry for that..but even in this thread, my pakistani brothers and indian friends are discussing about it..so it would be better for Turks who follow this thread to get the idea about this issue

Well, Kashmiri opinions in 2010

Kashmir: Paths to Peace


For the story of Kashmiri conflict, i think both Pakistani and Indian sources will be biased, so i stick with CIA on this one.

 

[BronzePlaque]

In '47 when the States of Pakistan and India were being created out of British India, the Princely States and the Provinces that constituted India were given the choice of either joining Pakistan or India. The Muslim majority provinces and states were to be given to Pakistan whilst the rest were to form the State of India. In case of Kashmir, a Muslim majority Princely State, the People of Kashmir wanted to join the newly created Muslim State of Pakistan whilst their Hereditary Ruler (a Hindu) wanted to either remain Independent or secede to India. By the way that Hereditary Ruler was sold the State of Kashmir by the British and he wasn't a native of that land or even a truly hereditary ruler. What became Pakistan came to consist of the Muslim majority Provinces of Punjab, Balochistan, Sindh and KP. The Muslim majority areas of Gurdaspur and Firozpur for God knows what reason were instead given to India. The Province of Punjab had a vast Sikh and Hindu majority in them and it was then consequently divided between a Pakistani Punjab and an Indian Punjab. In the ensuing migration of Muslims to Pakistan and Hindus and Sikhs to India...Millions were butchered by each side. All in all about 5-7 Million People entered the newly created State of Pakistan. Kashmir in this time had still dilly dallied on joining which side; however with an 80% Muslim Majority the Kashmiris wanted to join Pakistan (I should know...I am one) so naturally hostilities arose between the Muslim inhabitants and the Ruler's Troops with many Muslims being massacred and many Non-Muslims suffering in-turn. In this chaos when the massacre of Muslims became unbearable...an armed revolt started taking place in Kashmir with Muslims retaliating against the Ruler's Troops. The Ruler (lets call him the Raja) in turn issued an appeal to India with its Prime Minister Nehru who agreed on the condition that Kashmir secede to India and the Raja complied so Indian Army Soldiers got paratrooped into Kashmir to secure its secession. Pakistan on this side of the border requested the Pathan Tribesmen from Tribal Areas to fight on our behalf because all our armed forces were posted over-seas and so they crossed into Kashmir and started claiming it for Pakistan however because they weren't a disciplined army they in turn engaged in a lot of looting whilst the Indian Army was busy securing the rest of Kashmir. At the end of '48 when a ceasefire (I believe) was signed...Pakistan controlled a little over 1/3 rd of Kashmir and India a little less than 2/3 rd. The Prime Minister of India, Nehru promised the Kashmiri People that a referendum will be held in the State of Kashmir to decide by the People whether they wished to side with India or with Pakistan - 64 years down the lane...that referendum still hasn't happened. India claimed that their actions were legitimate because the Ruler of Kashmir has signed over Kashmir to India however Pakistan retorted that the Ruler of the Indian State of Hyderabad ( A Hindu Majority State with a Muslim Hereditary Ruler) had signed over Hyderabad to Pakistan and yet the Indian Army had invaded it and forcefully absorbed it into the State of India. Consequently, the relations between India and Pakistan remain sour over it with 2 Wars ('48 and '65) fought over Kashmir amidst numerous major (Kargil) and minor skirmishes ! And the area still remains disputed territory.

Armstrong, you are my man

 

[Armstrong]

When something is completely untrue yes it is. Daily I meet Egyptians here everywhere and we are like brothers to each other. When Egyptians say Saudis treat Egyptians badly then yes it is totally wrong. It is all part of one defaming machine going on but I guess it is the price of power that KSA has to be such a target of propaganda and defaming campaigns everywhere.

Most of my University Doctors are Egyptians. I go to Egyptian cafes to spend my time. I sit with Egyptians I studied with in School a lot so when someone comes and say "Saudis treat Egyptians badly" yes that is completely wrong and baseless.

Yeah...funny the 5 families ( 20 or so people) that I do know of who've been in Saudi Arabia for the better part of 2 decades never claim any of this alleged discrimination.

 

[NeutralCitizen]

Turkey Goal of a future Turkic Union has been prevented by Russia, China and Iran. the bear is reaching it's paws in central asia.