Trump Orders US companies out of China

[Crusher]

I agree with your assessment.

I think Xi Jinping and much of China's leadership became arrogant and also complacent, assuming the US depended on China, valued the business relationship too much, that US corporations will forever steer US policy and they overreached. They overreached in the South China Sea, they overreached in announcing their ambitions even though China was still far behind in many extremely important core technologies like semiconductors, precision manufacturing, engine technology, AI, etc etc. But they never expected a wild card like Trump who disrupted everything. That's why they are trying to downplay everything now and trying to backtrack, but it's too late, they showed their cards too early. If they were smarter, they would've shown their cards after they actually equaled or surpassed the US.

Trump is just passionate about reducing "trade deficits", he has been against trade deficits of US with other nations even as far back as 80s when he used to channel his anger on trade deficits towards "Japan",

After getting elected as the president of USA in November 2016 his sole focus has been on "trade deficits" and he has been trying to "correct" US trade deficits against China, Mexico, Canada, India and EU.

 

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USA will not have advantage in tech anymore. Because Chinese companies will take over, before the trade war they will usually buy USA tech. That will be no longer the case and they will have to buy domestic tech weather they like it or not.

 

[Yaseen1]

trump should also take measures to control u.s debt as he has added much debt in his tenure

Trump st is passionate about "trade deficits", he has been against trade deficits of US with other nations even as far back as 80s when he used to channel his anger on trade deficits towards "Japan",

After getting elected as the president of USA in November 2016 his sole focus has been on "trade deficits" and he has been trying to "correct" US trade deficits against China, Mexico, Canada, India and EU.

 

[Viet]

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@AViet ,, @Viet ,, @cochine ,, @Viva_Viet ,,

You should stop playing this anti US card. We are pragmatic people. We are not like people in Iran, China or elsewhere that believe anti US is part of national identity.

 

[kankan326]

I agree with your assessment.

I think Xi Jinping and much of China's leadership became arrogant and also complacent, assuming the US depended on China, valued the business relationship too much, that US corporations will forever steer US policy and they overreached. They overreached in the South China Sea, they overreached in announcing their ambitions even though China was still far behind in many extremely important core technologies like semiconductors, precision manufacturing, engine technology, AI, etc etc. But they never expected a wild card like Trump who disrupted everything. That's why they are trying to downplay everything now and trying to backtrack, but it's too late, they showed their cards too early. If they were smarter, they would've shown their cards after they actually equaled or surpassed the US.

US is not so powerful as you said. Huawei can survive without US products. Which means US technology is not irreplaceable. And don't forget EU and Japan. If US and China severe business relationship, China may down. So does US. Because it will be a world in which EU and Japan have whole world market meanwhile China and US have half of it. Talents and money will leave US and flood to EU and Japan. China doesn't have to worry brain drain cause China itself has many talents.

 

[tower9]

US is not so powerful as you said. Huawei can survive without US products. Which means US technology is not irreplaceable. And don't forget EU and Japan. If US and China severe business relationship, China may down. So does US. Because it will be a world in which EU and Japan have whole world market meanwhile China and US have half of it. Talents and money will leave US and flood to EU and Japan. China doesn't have to worry brain drain cause China itself has many talents.

Actually no, Huawei can't survive without US products but luckily the ban was eased. Perhaps in 5 years, Huawei can shed off reliance on any US product but as of now, the US has the power to shut down Huawei's operations.

 

[Viet]

And the people who perpetually live in the sorrows of their sufferings of the "Past" are guaranteed to be the biggest losers of the the "Present". What you plan in "present" is what matters in your life the most for both "present" and "future". Past is past, you cannot change anything that has happened in the past but you CAN always change what is going on in your life at present and particularly future. Prosperous Life cannot be sustained both in present as well as future if one refuses to come out of the clutches of the "griefs" and "sufferings" of the past.

I fully support Vietnamese wanting to improve their present and future with the help of investment of US companies. China also welcomes all kinds of investment coming from companies belonging to Japan and Britain even though China has suffered great humiliation, sufferings and loss of lives caused to them by both Japan and Britain in the past.



Hardly any serious US company will go to that filthy land of india.

Exactly. We can’t tolerate today’s chinese arrogance and aggression just because of the US war crimes in Vietnam in the past. What a logic that to sacrifice own national security for the sake of a fake friendship and cultural similarities.

 

[kankan326]

Actually no, Huawei can't survive without US products but luckily the ban was eased. Perhaps in 5 years, Huawei can shed off reliance on any US product but as of now, the US has the power to shut down Huawei's operations.

Some Japanese disassembled a Huawei phone. And found only 1.5% parts are from US. Huawei CEO said they don't mind US ban.

 

[tower9]

Some Japanese disassembled a Huawei phone. And found only 1.5% parts are from US. Huawei CEO said they don't mind US ban.

The most critical parts.

You can say what you want, but Huawei still clearly depends on many key US components. Of course, they may be able to wean themselves off in 3-5 years if domestic companies can rise to the challenge, but that's still a major IF.

 

[Viet]

The most critical parts.

You can say what you want, but Huawei still clearly depends on many key US components. Of course, they may be able to wean themselves off in 3-5 years if domestic companies can rise to the challenge, but that's still a major IF.

Chinese think too much of themselves too much confident. Take network communications, the heart of Internet. US companies as Cisco, Arista, Juniper dominate 80 percent or so the market. Huawei has the niche as cheap component maker. Cost sensitive components buy Huawei. Companies such as Vodafone. The US techs let most of the devices to be assembled in China. Trump thinks Vietnam and other countries can make the components, assemble the devices.

Certainly it will take a while until we can replace China but that is not impossible as many chinese claim here. What we need is technology, money and Human Resources. The last factor is most important. Vietnam is running out of people, we can import foreign people.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

He is a S Vietnamese exile.

Makes sense

 

[kankan326]

The most critical parts.

You can say what you want, but Huawei still clearly depends on many key US components. Of course, they may be able to wean themselves off in 3-5 years if domestic companies can rise to the challenge, but that's still a major IF.

It's not what I said. Check below video. If even the 1.5% is most critical parts, it doesn't mean they are irreplaceable. Other parts may not be as good as the US suppliers'. But still work. Vice CEO of Huawei said the US ban has not effect on its 5G proucts.

 

[Fawadqasim1]

Didnt the US bomb the sh$t out of Vietnam? Dont your citizens still find explosives in the fields? Have you no shame?

It appears so

 

[lcloo]

Looks like recession is really coming to USA faster than expected. There will be lots and lots of Chapter 11 happening in next 12 months.

The low income 90% Americans will face a bleak winter and not so happy Christmas and New Year. And the rich 10% Americans will see their wealth drastically reduce by stock market crash.

 

[Beast]

Read “Trading with the Enemy Act of 1917”
Any US President can give an executive order. See sanctions on Cuba, Iran and North Korea.

Yes, good bye to all smartphone, iphone and 90% apple product. 85% of all computer and electronic product worldwide faces 400% increase in prices or cease to exist.

Vietnam which heavily depend on 50% import part from China for your electronic export will also go bankrupt. Why vietnamese peopple are so naive, thinking China got sanction will not hit them?