Trump Orders US companies out of China

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

This is the most serious escalation since the Korean War!!! And, the President has questioned the loyalty of the Jewish folks....

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

China is our existential security threat. The US is just a footnote in our history.

You are disgusting. None of them are your friends, take some pride in who you are, instead of becoming a slave to a nation that burned Vietnam for years.

 

[Viet]

You are disgusting. None of them are your friends, take some pride in who you are, instead of becoming a slave to a nation that burned Vietnam for years.

When it comes to own country security, survival, there is no friend and no foe. As Pakistani, you know it better I assume.

 

[Protest_again]

When it comes to own country security, survival, there is no friend and no foe. As Pakistani, you know it better I assume.

He doesn't.

 

[Viet]

He doesn't.

That is bad. He puts his country at risk for the sake of a “friend”.

 

[tower9]

Trump says he has a big announcement this afternoon. I wonder what it is.

If he is bluffing, it could be a package of sanctions or more tariffs on Chinese goods.

If it is a significant escalation, it may be the unveiling of an order that will force American manufacturers to cease operations in China and return to the US.

IMO, the US govt's corruption and stupidity is what allowed them to allow corporate America total control of the government and move so much of American industry off shore in the first place. Unfortunately, even if these factories left China, they will be going to other countries like Vietnam. However, I think Trump's goal is to simply make China slip up.

 

[Götterdämmerung]

 

[vi-va]

How should a great power politics look like?

If you really want a serious discussion, that's good start, although I doubt it.

Great power politics is about wining strategic advantage for long run. which includes:
economy, geo-politics, ideology, and military.

Cutting economy ties with China can hurt China but also hurt US. US will be losing China market which will be doubled in next decades. Capitalism is market driven, the growth rate of market is even more important.

China alone counted for 1/3 GDP growth of the world. If US companies completely withdraw from China, they will lose their scale and revenue as well as profit. tRump is not winning any strategic advantage, the trade war is double-edged sword.

tRump is nobody in Washington DC before elected, he has to reconcile his policy with the establishment's interest. If tRump keep hurting establishment interest and get nothing in return, he will be abandoned by Deep State.

The decay of US democracy has deep root. US is in big trouble, the longer tRump stay in power, the better for China. What US should do is political reform and economy reform, but tRump didn't do any of those, he is incapable.

Richard Wolff Explains How China Beats The West At Capitalism ft. Richard Wolff (TMBS 101)

 

[Falcon29]

Our Prophet foretold this, all the knowledge from the Lord, that trade will be cut off in the end times. It is not meant in permanent sense, it means there will be a cutting of some trade in the Arabic sense.

 

[Viet]

If you really want a serious discussion, that's good start, although I doubt it.

Great power politics is about wining strategic advantage for long run. which includes:
economy, geo-politics, ideology, and military.

Cutting economy ties with China can hurt China but also hurt US. US will be losing China market which will be doubled in next decades. Capitalism is market driven, the growth rate of market is even more important.

China alone counted for 1/3 GDP growth of the world. If US companies completely withdraw from China, they will lose their scale and revenue as well as profit. tRump is not winning any strategic advantage, the trade war is double-edged sword.

tRump is nobody in Washington DC before elected, he has to reconcile his policy with the establishment's interest. If tRump keep hurting establishment interest and get nothing in return, he will be abandoned by Deep State.

The decay of US democracy has deep root. US is in big trouble, the longer tRump stay in power, the better for China. What US should do is political reform and economy reform, but tRump didn't do any of those, he is incapable.

Richard Wolff Explains How China Beats The West At Capitalism ft. Richard Wolff (TMBS 101)

There is a problem with your logic.

You think too much of yourself.

too chinese

too primitive

You think that is only money that matters. Less money makes less important.

Money is the only thing that you have in mind.

If you want to study great power politics, you should study the relationship between UK, Germany, France, Russia in the 18, 19 century.

 

[vi-va]

China is our existential security threat. The US is just a footnote in our history.

What make you so afraid of China? Vietnamese are relatives of Chinese ethnically, culturally and ideologically. We are just damn the same.

There is a problem with your logic.

You think too much of yourself.

too chinese

too primitive

You think that is only money that matters. Less money makes less important.

Money is the only thing that you have in mind.

If you want to study great power politics, you should study the relationship between UK, Germany, France, Russia in the 18, 19 century.

Its not about money, it's about capitalism. Are you a Vietnamese? Have you ever read Karl Marx's work?

Trump has no ground strategy. What's in his mind is all about reelection. And China will fight back and still hope he will be reelected.

The real problem of US can only be solved by political and economical reform. US is just wasting time on trade war. The longer US refused to reform, the bigger problem US has to face in the long run.

China is the inventor of Game Go. If you know Game Go, it's never about tactical winning, it's all about strategical winning.

 

[Battle of Waterloo]

This would be very expensive and burdensome for US companies. Trump will not risk accelerating the next recession (inevitable and imminent) for this. Just posturing to boost leverage in US-China negotiations.

 

[vi-va]

This would be very expensive and burdensome for US companies. Trump will not risk accelerating the next recession (inevitable and imminent) for this. Just posturing to boost leverage in US-China negotiations.

His negotiation tactic is so unprofessional like a kid.

 

[Battle of Waterloo]

His negotiation tactic is so unprofessional like a kid.

Trump threatened 'fire and fury' like the world has 'never seen before' every time NK tested a BM. A few months and some meetings later, KJU and Trump are best friends and share love letters whilst NK tests new missiles every week.

After Iran shot down $180m RQ-4 drone Trump threatened a harsh response ("you'll see"), then did nothing.

Everything Trump does is about escalating tensions to produce negotiations in a crazy way - the "mad man doctrine" and "the art of the deal". The problem is that he sucks at making deals and negotiating!

He made a deal with Mexico, then a few weeks later demanded more from them. Violated Iran deal, destroyed Paris Agreement, destroyed INF Treaty, etc.

Today he called Xi an "enemy" but if they have a nice meeting and Xi smiles at him a few times he will go back to saying how they have such a great relationship and how much he likes Xi.

He has no credibility and nobody wants to negotiate with him.

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

All of these will go into india for sure.

But usa will loose alot of business