Thousands in Jordan call for end to peace with Israel

[BLACKEAGLE]

So Israel can trust Jordan to stick to its commitments, including its peace agreement? Oh, that is a relief!

Then why the shouts "death to Israel" and why you support them and on the other hand support Jordan stick to the peace agreement with Israel? Aren't you getting slightly confused?

You want the truth? I don't agree with people who call for death to Jews or civilians, but Israel is an illegitimate entity, it's not just my opinion but a fact. Nevertheless, I would agree with Israel existence if Palestinians vote in favor of it, it's their land afterall. Of course, in case that Israel drops her aggressive attitude toward them and Arabs as well as Palestinians, withdraw from all Palestinian territories that were occupied in 1967 and establishing Palestinian state with full sovereignty over it's lands and it's capital Al-Quds. Although I know that Israel would never allow that to happen, I say it. There will be an end to you sooner or later, USA will not last forever to protect you guys. Either you accept peace now or would be forced to accept the worst scenario you could imagine. I am telling the truth, we have given many Concessions to you although it's not your land. It's your choice now.

 

[nirreich]

You want the truth? I don't agree with people who call for death to Jews or civilians, but Israel is an illegitimate entity, it's not just my opinion but a fact. Nevertheless, I would agree with Israel existence if Palestinians vote in favor of it, it's their land afterall. Of course, in case that Israel drops her aggressive attitude toward them and Arabs as well as Palestinians, withdraw from all Palestinian territories that were occupied in 1967 and establishing Palestinian state with full sovereignty over it's lands and it's capital Al-Quds. Although I know that Israel would never allow that to happen, I say it. There will be an end to you sooner or later, USA will not last forever to protect you guys. Either you accept peace now or would be forced to accept the worst scenario you could imagine. I am telling the truth, we have given many Concessions to you although it's not your land. It's your choice now.

I always wants the truth and nothing but the truth. Thank you for your sincerity.

I asked you in different ways the same basic question: Why you demand that Israel will do what Jordan never dream of doing for the Palestinians? Is not it a bit an hypocrisy to ask another country more than you demand from your own country?

If I were Jordan I would go not five times a day to the nearest mosque but 15 times and pray that Israel will survive. Do you really think Jordan will last long without Israel's assistance? Look around you in the Middle East, do you see stability and good faith? Do you really trust your Arab "brothers" who has no problem to kill each other and their own people? You know what happened in September 1970, it can happen again.

But besides the practical side think of it from the moral side. Why your people and the Palestinians has the right of self determination but not Israelis? Why you deserve more rights than my people? This is another common double standard made by Arabs.

If you want a peace agreement between Israel and the Palestinians persuade the latter to recognise the legitimacy of Israel's existence as a Jewish nation state and withdraw their demand that Israel should commit suicide and accept millions of Palestinians into its territory (I am not talking about the West Bank). If the Palestinians will drop this demand Israel will be more than happy to sign on a peace agreement that creates an independent Palestinian state in most of the West Bank with its capital East Jerusalem. Satisfied? Anything more?

How do you want that Israel will do compromises and takes risk if they are not worth anything? Israel signed two peace agreements with Arab countries, made concessions and what did we get? More hatred and you support our destruction. Why should Israel do more compromises if we get nothing of it?

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

I always wants the truth and nothing but the truth. Thank you for your sincerity.

Thank you.

I asked you in different ways the same basic question: Why you demand that Israel will do what Jordan never dream of doing for the Palestinians? Is not it a bit an hypocrisy to ask another country more than you demand from your own country?

What are Jordan dreams for Palestinians? stealing their lands, humiliating them, demolitioning their homes and farms, harassing them, blockading them, replacing them, taking over their lands?

f I were Jordan I would go not five times a day to the nearest mosque but 15 times and pray that Israel will survive. Do you really think Jordan will last long without Israel's assistance? Look around you in the Middle East, do you see stability and good faith?

What the **** are you talking about? we had problems with Arabs many times, but we still Arabs, one blood, faith, language, dreams, and thoughts! Israel is our common enemy.

But besides the practical side think of it from the moral side. Why your people and the Palestinians has the right of self determination but not Israelis? Why you deserve more rights than my people? This is another common double standard made by Arabs.

Because you guys forcibly replaced them, committed many massacres, occupied their lands, it's their freaking lands man!!! you are immigrants who came from all over the world and settled there. Plz understand that Palestaine has never been your lands. You are Europians and Russains, you don't belong here. I feel sorry for you, but why we have to pay the price of your sad history? It was not Arabs who prosecuted you in WW2.

If you want a peace agreement between Israel and the Palestinians persuade the latter to recognise the legitimacy of Israel's existence as a Jewish nation state and withdraw their demand that Israel should commit suicide and accept millions of Palestinians into its territory (I am not talking about the West Bank). If the Palestinians will drop this demand Israel will be more than happy to sign on a peace agreement that creates an independent Palestinian state in most of the West Bank with it capital East Jerusalem. Satisfied.

Your words say that but your actions say the opposite, you are still occupying more lands in west bank day after day.

How do you want that Israel will do compromises and takes risk if they are not worth anything? Israel signed two peace agreements with Arab countries, made concessions and what did we get? More hatred and you support our destruction. Why should Israel do more compromises if we get nothing of it?

That's not true, it seems you are mistrustful. We accepted you but under specific conditions. Just look what Israel has been doing since 2000. Is this a country that wan'ts peace? I don't think so. You killed every tiny possibility for peace. That's why we don't trust you and demand an end to Palestinians and Arab problem.

 

[twilight]

The people of Iran did try to change the regime in 2009 elections and voted for moderate candidates but the degenerate regime fraud the results and ignored them and the ordered to shoot the demonstrators who bravely defended their rights.

But you do not have anything to say against Iran's barbaric acts even against its own people, all you know is how to slander Israel without any reference to the facts or reality.

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The truth and nothing but the truth.

You are so convinced in your truth that you are so scared to discuss other opinions. A bit of anomaly, isn't it?

well . first I already answerd your claim in first part , but for sure you will continue aying what has benefit for you .... and you are really didn't saying new thing , you already repeat what western propaganda saying against us ....


for second part , first I should that my English isn't very good to discuss about serious matter , So simply I don't want begin a discuss when I can't saying all my opinion clearly ... and I think you should be happy about this ...because a brainwashed criminal person couldn't beat me in any discuss , but you are lucky that my English is worthless ....

and a question :
who occupy other people land and who begin more wars in past 50 years in world ( well except Yankees )

 

[nirreich]

Thank you.


What are Jordan dreams for Palestinians? stealing their lands, humiliating them, demolitioning their homes and farms, harassing them, blockading them, replacing them, taking over their lands?



What the **** are you talking about? we had problems with Arabs many times, but we still Arabs, one blood, faith, language, dreams, and thoughts! Israel is our common enemy.



Because you guys forcibly replaced them, committed many massacres, occupied their lands, it's their freaking lands man!!! you are immigrants who came from all over the world and settled there. Plz understand that Palestaine has never been your lands. You are europians and Russains, you don't belong here. I feel sorry for you, but why we have to pay the price of your history?



Your words say that but your actions say the opposite, you are still occupying more lands in west bank day after day.


That's not true, it seems you are mistrustful. We accepted you but under specific conditions. Just look what Israel has been doing since 2000. Is this a country that wan'ts peace? I don't think so. You killed every tiny possibility for peace. That's why we don't trust you and demand an end to Palestinians and Arab problem.

It seems that I am mistrustful? This is the understatement of the year, of course I am mistrustful!

Just look on this thread and put yourself in my shows: you are actually tell me sign a peace agreement and what you get? Nothing! We will still want to destroy you. Now if you were me won't you ask yourself why should I have peace if in any case want to destroy me? why should I make any concessions?

You are not from Syria or Lebanon or Iran or Iraq, you are from Jordan! We have peace between us which means we respect each other and want to live side by side. And now look what you wrote in your last post - you completely deny any legitimacy of the existence of my country and you publicly wish for it destruction. Now you tell me: what kind of peace is this?

BTW, the same goes for the Palestinian who think even worst that you do, then how can you expect that Israel will compromise with its enemies who publicly say they want to destroy it and promise to continue even if there be a peace agreement, like you are doing just now? Think of yourself in my position and what would you do.

As for your entire de-legitimacy of Israel, it is totally false. The Jews belong to the land of Israel, this is the only place Jews ever had their own sovereignty and the only place they yearned to go back. There were no Palestinians (nor Jordanians) until 1920's, only Arabs, while a Jewish homeland was already promised. The Jewish people have the right for their own country like other nations and the only place on earth for it is in their historic homeland.

You do not know the facts and feed of anti-Israeli propaganda: Israel never massacred the Palestinians which as you may know 1.5 millions of them are Israeli citizens and have more rights than the people of Jordan which is an Arab country. The situation of the Palestinians in the West Bank is much better today than under the Arab control of Jordan and Israel is doing its best to protect their human right in a very complex situation. Regarding human rights, we both know how King Hussain opressed PLO in 1970 and how he maintained PLO's human rights... Same goes for Syria and Egypt and other Arab countries, but I guess Arabs are allowed to do everything and they never responsible for anything - and allowed to condemn Israel for the same actions they are doing, even against their own people.

You know you cannot trust your Arab "brothers" and you had a smart King, Hussain, who knew that too. That is why he stayed close to Israel just like his grandfather, king Abddulah (may their both rest in peace).

As for our peace proposal for the Palestinians is it enough to satisfy you? Don't you agree that the Palestinians should accept it? Do not worry about Israeli presence in the West Bank - it can be evacuated quickly like in Gaza in 2005 and in Sinai in 1980-2. Israel's current Prime Minister said in his own voice that he is committed to the two state solution and support an independent state for the Palestinians.

The ball is in your side of the court.

 

[lem34]

I do hope the cursed Arab leaders listen to their people