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This is less than what Pakistan has already spent: PM Gilani (On U.S. Aid)

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ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani has said the military aid announced by the US is less than the amount Pakistan has already spent. He said Pakistan’s military is patriotic and cannot give wrong advice to the government.

He said Pakistan was a responsible nuclear weapons state and its nuclear capability is only for deterrence. “We are well aware of the responsibilities that come with this status,” he said while talking to office-bearers of the Diplomatic Correspondents Association of Pakistan (DCAP) at the Prime Minister’s House here on Friday.

He said Pakistan was demanding of the United States civil nuclear technology cooperation on the pattern of India. He expressed his concern over the situation in the occupied Kashmir, saying Pakistan remained seriously concerned over the prevailing situation in the Indian-occupied Kashmir. “Pakistan shall continue to extend its full moral, political and diplomatic support to the Kashmiri people in their just cause,” he added.

Prime Minister Gilani said lasting peace and security in South Asia could only be achieved with a sincere effort to resolve the longstanding disputes. He said this required leadership, vision and courage, and the only way forward for India and Pakistan was dialogue. “I have had some productive exchanges with my Indian counterpart, but I am disappointed that the promise of those meetings has not yet been realised because my Indian counterpart faced pressure from his parliament as well as internal pressure due to which progress was not made on the resumption of dialogue,” he added.

About the statement of US special envoy Richard Holbrooke on Kashmir, he said Pakistan wanted the resolution of the Kashmir issue, and if the United States played any role to resolve the issue, then it would be an important step. “When the Obama administration came into power and there was a thinking to give a role to former US President Bill Clinton to resolve the Kashmir issue between Pakistan and India, but Richard Holbrooke was given the task on Pakistan and Afghanistan.”

On the issue of Afghanistan, Prime Minister Gilani was of the view that Pakistan must be involved in the ‘negotiation process’ because it was a part of the solution to the Afghan problem.

He said Pakistan had high stakes in Afghanistan’s stability, unity, territorial integrity and prosperity. “We support efforts for promoting an Afghan-led and Afghan-driven reconciliation process. Without peace in Afghanistan, there can be no peace in our region,” he added.

He said during the last visit of President Hamid Karzai to Islamabad, it was agreed that Afghanistan would share the plan with Pakistan. “So far, this plan has not been shared with Pakistan and once information is provided, a decision would be taken as to how Pakistan can cooperate,” he added.

He said: “While our destinies are intertwined, our circumstances are distinct and apart. The AfPak concept is inherently flawed. We have strongly rejected such concept.” He said those who claimed that the top leadership of the Taliban was in Quetta or any other area of Pakistan, they should prove it. “The United States is a superpower and have the means and technology, it should share intelligence information with us and we will take action,” he said.

About the drone attacks, Prime Minister Gilani said the Musharraf government had allowed the use of drones for surveillance only, but not to launch missile attacks. “We have told the United States in categorical terms that drone attacks are counterproductive. We are also trying to convince the United States either to provide the drone technology or share actionable intelligence so that Pakistan’s own forces could take action inside our territory,” he said.

The premier contradicted reports that Pakistan had provided a base to the United States to operate the drones. To a question, he said Pakistan was fighting a war against terror for its own and our people and soldiers have sacrificed their lives and these sacrifices were recognised internationally. “The United States recognises the sacrifices rendered by Pakistan during the war on terror and this was reiterated during the meeting of President Obama with the Pakistani delegation at the strategic dialogue in Washington.”

About the progress on the Friends of Democratic Pakistan (FoDP), he urged the international community to fulfil the promises made in the meeting held in Tokyo and materialise the pledges. Earlier, in his opening remarks, Prime Minister Gilani said Pakistan’s friendship with China was time-tested and an important factor of peace and security in our region.

He said expanding the Sino-Pak collaboration in the economic sphere would translate into greater prosperity for the region as a whole. He said Pakistan would continue to strengthen its comprehensive strategic and cooperative relations with the People’s Republic of China. The premier said Iran was an important neighbour, a friend and a partner.

He said Pakistan-Iran relations were deeply-rooted in history, and spiritual and cultural bonds and the Iran-Pakistan Gas pipeline project was one of the symbols of our quest for shared prosperity. “We support a peaceful solution to the Iranian nuclear issue. Any other course could have disastrous consequences for the region as a whole,” he added.

On Pakistan’s relations with the Arab countries, he said Pakistan enjoyed special relations with all the Arab and Islamic countries. He said Pakistan was also reaching out to the states of Africa and Latin America. “Our vision East Asia inspires us to develop closer partnerships in the realms of trade and economy, and give tangible expression to the concept of Greater Asian Neighbourhood,” he added.

On the relations with the European Union, the prime minister said: “We seek trade not aid. We wish to promote mutually-beneficial partnerships”. He said both the president and he had had excellent meetings with the Russian leadership. “We are working together bilaterally and through multilateral processes to promote shared perspectives for peace and development,” he added.

He said Pakistan believed in the purposes and principles of the United Nations. “We are active participants in the UN processes, be it climate change, arms control and disarmament or human rights,” he added. He said Pakistan was among the largest troops contributors to the UN peacekeeping missions.
 
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Then why is it called Aid.Should not the right term be 'Reimbursement' or something like that.
 
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Don't take Gilani seriously ... He often forgets next day what he says a day before ,
 
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^ because Pakistan is fighting this war for itself and not someone else. Just like developmental aid of 7.5 billion can not be called reimbursement by giving a logic that Pakistan has already spent this money on developmental projects, this cant be called reimbursement of PA's expenses of its war on Pakistani terrorists in Pakistani territories.
 
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^ because Pakistan is fighting this war for itself and not someone else. Just like developmental aid of 7.5 billion can not be called reimbursement by giving a logic that Pakistan has already spent this money on developmental projects, this cant be called reimbursement of PA's expenses of its war on Pakistani terrorists in Pakistani territories.


Then Sir who will reimburse/Give aid when they(not all) claim to take on India or give us a bloody nose.

P.S.-Sorry for being off topic.
 
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Then Sir who will reimburse/Give aid when they(not all) claim to take on India or give us a bloody nose.

P.S.-Sorry for being off topic.


The bold part can only happen in fantasy land and there, no one needs any help/aid/reimbursement.
 
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This was never our war to begin with!

The Talibs were un known in Pakistan before 2001.
All of a sudden we are dragged into a war that isn't ours, we have to side with them, let their supplies through and fight on their side.

We have payed for the war, both financially and human lives.
All we get in return is a bit of useless aid, a kick in the @SS and the US saying that we aren't doing enough.

not to mention regular illegal drone attacks on Pakistani soil.

WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE A MAJOR NON-NATO ALLY!!! it's time they treated us like one.

If they keep this up, we should cut off supplies, make peace with the Taliban, and then make them realise just how important we are to them.
 
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Tgis was never our war to begin with!

The Talibs were un known in Pakistan before 2001.
All of a sudden we are dragged into a war that isn't ours, we have to side with them, let their supplies through and fight on their side.

We have payed for the war, both financially and human lives.
All we get in return is a bit of useless aid, a kick in the @SS and the US saying that we aren't doing enough.

not to mention regular illegal drone attacks on Pakistani soil.

WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE A MAJOR NON-NATO ALLY!!! it's time they treated us like one.

If they keep this up, we should cut off supplies, make peace with the Taliban, and then make them realise just how important we are to them.

It would be a bad idea as US will surely make Pakistan pay for back stabbing it if Pakistant goes with Taliban
For them it is easy to destroy both ****** and get out, they are still here because they want to reconstruct.

Right now , they are withstanding your drama because they want to go home after a decade and are willing to pay to expedite the process, remember no one should mess with a super power,they make sure that you bloody pay.

Case in point Vietnam ,Bosnia and Serbia, Chechenya etc
 
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It would be a bad idea as US will surely make Pakistan pay for back stabbing it if it goes with Taliban
For them it is easy to destroy and get out, they are involved because they want to reconstruct.

Right now , they are withstanding your drama because they want to go home after a decade, remember no one should mess with a super power,they make sure that you bloody pay

before we dragged into this war we were fine, if they want to cause damage to us, then hell we'll cause damage to them.

Yes countries like Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq were hard to handle for superpowers, Pakistan would be a whole different ball game.
 
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This was never our war to begin with!

The Talibs were un known in Pakistan before 2001.
All of a sudden we are dragged into a war that isn't ours, we have to side with them, let their supplies through and fight on their side. --1

how can someone drag a whole coutry to war?? and why did you have to side with us?? arent you sovereign to take your own decisions?

We have payed for the war, both financially and human lives.


All we get in return is a bit of useless aid, a kick in the @SS and the US saying that we aren't doing enough.

not to mention regular illegal drone attacks on Pakistani soil.

and american tax payers have sent money to pakistan even in such worse economic crisis. Highest unemployment in ages and dwindling power of America w r t other Asian powers. and what we get in return? America is enemy? America is the rogue state? and not to mention the ISI teaming up with Taliban to kill Nato troops - such a shame you take our money and kill our troops!.

WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE A MAJOR NON-NATO ALLY!!! it's time they treated us like one.

You are welcome to move out. no one has forced you to be in Nato!

If they keep this up, we should cut off supplies, make peace with the Taliban, and then make them realise just how important we are to them.
You have done this time and again. this is what we call in plain english "blackmail". And sooner or later when we get around to a point where you wont have something to blackmail, you will get what you deserve.


Make no mistake - we believe Pakistan and in fact every nation should live in peace without being a problem to anyone and themselves. The fight against the Taliban started more as a necessity to prevent further terrorist attacks in USA. We do not tolerate terrorism of any kind.
 
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how can someone drag a whole coutry to war?? and why did you have to side with us?? arent you sovereign to take your own decisions?

The leaders dont give s*** about the country's sovereignity, as long as they can fill in their pockets and survive. BTW also got used to getting aid from US for so long that they are ready to adjust to the whims of US
 
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***** apni galli me sher..................Why couldn't they say that in the US....this is all a drama for the home audience..........

All of them have sold Pakistan out.....
 
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(01) Pakistan provides the services, trucks, fuel and supplies first
(02) Then Pakistan transports it
(03) US and Nato do not pay for the repair of bridges and highways
(04) Then Pakistan bills for reimbursement
(05) Security personnel salaries for the convoys

There is no aid, this is all reimbursement. We also need to start collecting portion of the repair of bridges and highways, plus cost of extra salaries for security. In the end this is costing more than what we are getting reimbursed.
 
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how can someone drag a whole coutry to war?? and why did you have to side with us?? arent you sovereign to take your own decisions?

apparently you seem to be unaware that the US is the most powerful country in the world that is not exactly afraid to use force and kill


such a shame you take our money and kill our troops!.


FAO pak members - you see what i mean - give then an inch and they take a mile- this sort of response does not deserve an answer - the sooner we are shot of the US the better

You have done this time and again. this is what we call in plain english "blackmail". And sooner or later when we get around to a point where you wont have something to blackmail, you will get what you deserve.

more threats incredible - we are a sovereign nation remember.

We do not tolerate terrorism of any kind.

except when you support it...or create it...or indulge in it.......
 
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how can someone drag a whole coutry to war?? and why did you have to side with us?? arent you sovereign to take your own decisions?

Well before 2004 we hadn't had much to do with the war, but Musharraf said in an interview that the US threatened to bomb Pakistan if they did not side with them.

and american tax payers have sent money to pakistan even in such worse economic crisis. Highest unemployment in ages and dwindling power of America w r t other Asian powers. and what we get in return? America is enemy? America is the rogue state? and not to mention the ISI teaming up with Taliban to kill Nato troops - such a shame you take our money and kill our troops!.

WTF? We spent $45 billion on your war! PAKISTANI TAX PAYERS' money has been wasted. The US has not payed back the damage caused to Pakistan. And you talk as if your doing us a big favor!

show me the evidence that ISI is at this time helping the talibs

Attacks on our soil by NATO, what do you expect us to do???

You are welcome to move out. no one has forced you to be in Nato!

We should...

You have done this time and again. this is what we call in plain english "blackmail". And sooner or later when we get around to a point where you wont have something to blackmail, you will get what you deserve.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:You funded the Taliban to fight the soviets, now they turn against you, some might say you got what you deserve.
The US said they would invade us if necessary, are we that powerless?

Make no mistake - we believe Pakistan and in fact every nation should live in peace without being a problem to anyone and themselves. The fight against the Taliban started more as a necessity to prevent further terrorist attacks in USA. We do not tolerate terrorism of any kind.
LOL, this is so precious, you fund terror against others and if it's the other way round it's wrong, true righteousness.

you funded terrorism and guess what? It bit you in the @SS!
 
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