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The US is giving Vietnam $18 million for patrol boats to counter China

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Yes, here's to future cooperation :cheers:

it really is ashame that some are still stuck in a time warped mentality of the past. nothing can be done about that. As only logical and rational minded people can look to the present and future. A present and future still with some disagreements yes, but also of open-mindedness and pragmatism.
yes, let them. they have a dark mind. in Vietnam and overseas, nobody cares of chinese bullshit. cheer.

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Wouldn't be either.. and as a tax paying American citizen, I would have absolutely no issue with it at all.

:tup: Certainly a better investment than training and arming the Iraqi army.
 
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Oh please, I visited Vietnam before with my Vietnamese father. He and my mom do NOT like the communist regime there..
what I say is you know too little about Vietnam. surely, many exile Vietnamese hate communism, but all loves our fatherland Vietnam, thinking of our families and relatives at home. there is no exception. Nobody of us wants to be a traitor selling out our country to communist China. do you think we demand a democratic Vietnam before we send money back home? you are too delusional.

Do you think the exile Vietnamese want a weak and poor Vietnam, so China can come to taking our land killing our people? and at all, since when chinese have authority and ethics to educate our people?

I give you and other chinese posters here a tip: if you begin to believe to your own propaganda, then it is time to visit a doctor.
 
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a big cheer to our future cooperation :-)
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come on bro, where is the other half of you: the vietnamese side?
we have urgent security need NOW. Vietnam´s fate is at state. the commie chinese can come tomorrow, take our islands, destroy our cities, killing our people, and you talk of things that happened 50 years ago.


and you take US money, weapons and so forth although US drones bomb Pakistan from time to time. Why?
Do you believe thinking of the past will save Vietnam TODAY?
bcz US and her policies can never be friends to anyone. Point out one single Country who does not feel threatened and opposed by the US. As far as Pakistan is concerned, yes I do agree that our Government is way to polite towards US policies. But, think about it? Didnt we actually made US to leave Afghanistan? Didn't we actually protected our Nuclear assets? Didnt we win at the end? if you say no than I would say that you dont wana face the reality.
Look mate I have been engaged with Americans for several years now, and their Psycho is way beyond than what you can even predict. They wana rule this world, as they have been since the end of world war 2. And they wana use you guys to oppress China, open your eyes before its too late.
 
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Yes, here's to future cooperation :cheers:

it really is ashame that some are still stuck in a time warped mentality of the past. nothing can be done about that. As only logical and rational minded people can look to the present and future. A present and future still with some disagreements yes, but also of open-mindedness and pragmatism.

When former enemies become friends and possibly allies, that's the best possible outcome from a dark piece of history. Yet, some people that oppose that pretending to represent either Vietnam or USA, actually follow a third flag, maybe they need to get their allegiance straight to begin with.
 
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what I say is you know too little about Vietnam. surely, many exile Vietnamese hate communism, but all loves our fatherland Vietnam, thinking of our families and relatives at home. there is no exception. Nobody of us wants to be a traitor selling out our country to communist China. do you think we demand a democratic Vietnam before we send money back home? you are too delusional.

Do you think the exile Vietnamese want a weak and poor Vietnam, so China can come to taking our land killing our people? and at all, since when chinese have authority and ethics to educate our people?

I give you and other chinese posters here a tip: if you begin to believe to your own propaganda, then it is time to visit a doctor.
fatherland? why not motherland?
Anyways, whatever military stuff the US is willing to sell you so far is not a game changer at all. I will not lose sleep over it this time. This will not help your regime be victorious over China's rapidly growing military capabilities in the 21st Century.
 
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When former enemies become friends and possibly allies, that's the best possible outcome from a dark piece of history. Yet, some people that oppose that pretending to represent either Vietnam or USA, actually follow a third flag, maybe they need to get their allegiance straight to begin with.

That is exactly what's going on my friend. It's very disingenuous, and I'm glad to see that others have picked up on this.
 
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fatherland? why not motherland?.
father or motherland, similar meaning.
Anyways, whatever military stuff the US is willing to sell you so far is not a game changer at all. I will not lose sleep over it this time. This will not help your regime be victorious over China's rapidly growing military capabilities in the 21st Century.
so NOW you have revealed your true intention. you are not only a liar, but hypocrite and shameless.

bcz US and her policies can never be friends to anyone. Point out one single Country who does not feel threatened and opposed by the US. As far as Pakistan is concerned, yes I do agree that our Government is way to polite towards US policies. But, think about it? Didnt we actually made US to leave Afghanistan? Didn't we actually protected our Nuclear assets? Didnt we win at the end? if you say no than I would say that you dont wana face the reality.
Look mate I have been engaged with Americans for several years now, and their Psycho is way beyond than what you can even predict. They wana rule this world, as they have been since the end of world war 2. And they wana use you guys to oppress China, open your eyes before its too late.
I will wait of your reaction if you continue to spew nonsense and ethnics of good people if the Chinese begin to claim parts of Pakistan, declaring fishing ban and if you oppose the chinese declare war on Pakistan.
 
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HAI PHONG, Vietnam (Reuters) - U.S. Defense Secretary Ash Carter pledged $18 million on Sunday to help Vietnam buy U.S. patrol boats, shortly after touring a Vietnamese coast guard vessel that was hit by a Chinese ship during a skirmish in the South China Sea.

Carter, who has been focusing on maritime security during an 11-day trip to the Asia-Pacific, visited the Vietnamese navy headquarters and coast guard headquarters before boarding the ship.

Carter is on his second visit to Asia since becoming defense secretary earlier this year. He said he planned to sign a "vision statement" on Monday with his Vietnamese counterpart to guide the expansion of bilateral military ties.

"We need to modernize our partnership," Carter told reporters during a visit to the northern city of Hai Phong. "After 20 years, there is more we could do together."

As part of that effort, he said Washington would provide $18 million to help Vietnam buy U.S.-made Metal Shark patrol boats to help Hanoi improve its maritime defense capabilities.

U.S. and Vietnamese navies had been "building habits of cooperation" by working together, he said. In April they conducted exercises under rules laid out in the Code for Unplanned Encounters at Sea, a set of regulations approved by multiple maritime nations last year at a meeting in China.

Carter opened his trip to the Asia-Pacific by calling for all countries to stop island-building efforts in disputed, resource-rich regions of the South China Sea. He reiterated that call at the Shangri-La Dialogue security conference on Saturday.

Carter recognized that several countries, including Vietnam, had conducted land reclamation projects in the region but said Chinese activity, covering some 2,000 acres, had outstripped the others and raised questions about Beijing's long-term intentions.

"I will be discussing further with Vietnam the proposal that I was talking about in Singapore, namely for all of the claimants to these disputed areas of the South China Sea ... permanently to halt reclamations," he said. The Vietnamese coast guard vessel toured by Carter was targeted with Chinese water cannons and rammed by a Chinese ship during a confrontation last year.

The incident occurred after China moved an oil drilling rig into waters claimed by Vietnam. The rig remained for about two months protected by Chinese navy vessels, which were repeatedly challenged by Vietnamese ships.


Read more: http://uk.businessinsider.com/r-pentagon-chief-pledges-18-million-for-hanoi-to-buy-patrol-boats-2015-5?r=US#ixzz3bnGpm5q4

That's like really small
 
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and you take US money, weapons and so forth although US drones bomb Pakistan from time to time. Why?
Do you believe thinking of the past will save Vietnam TODAY?
Look at his forum handle...:lol:
 
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father or motherland, similar meaning.

so NOW you have revealed your true intention. you are not only a liar, but hypocrite and shameless.


I will wait of your reaction if you continue to spew nonsense and ethnics of good people if the Chinese begin to claim parts of Pakistan, declaring fishing ban and if you oppose the chinese declare war on Pakistan.

Dude first of all let me clarify few things before I answer your comment. China has always helped us as the history is evident of that. And people who help us we never turn our backs towards them neither we help their enemies against them. For decades we have been warned by the US to discontinue our Military relationships with China, but we have never accepted any pressure whatsoever from US and its allays. And since we have been receiving a constant help from China we in return have always respected them, helped them when they needed and offered them our shores. Chinese have had sacrificed a lot to get their independence and so as we and so as Vietnamese. But, Chinese and Pakistanis knows that who were the murderers of their forefathers but I suppose you Vietnam people have forgotten everything. Infect you have become so ungrateful that now you will turn against Chinese who helped you and feed you during your bad days. Without their help you would have been under complete influence of US just like Japan is. But I believe you do not have any idea neither you will ever understand the dignity and pride. As it is clearly rectified from your statements that you have no dignity at all and that you have forgiven your elders and Country men blood just for the sake of few millions or billions.

And in the end let me tell you something. People who lost their loved ones in Vietnam War if they read your comments they would chop your hands off for good. At least I know Vietnam People this much that they do not forgive their enemies.
 
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