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i dont get one thing. why will pakistan or china attack on delhi bombay, or any major city? they want kashmir or ap or the whole of india. and why would we go back to the princely states. is that only india had prices or kings. you also had some qin, han or some similar sort of dynasties . it was coz the people the feudal system was accepted at that time . now the world adores democracy not the princely system.
In a war with India, the first targets for China will be industrial areas in northern India. New Delhi is a very vulnerable target to air raids from Tibet airfields. The goal is to destroy India's ability to make war and set it back economically 10 years.

If India suffers a traumatic loss, it would probably be the end of the union. Indians actually don't like each other at all, unless they are from the same state. So there would be a lot of communal violence as people decide what state to belong to, similar to partition.
 
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In a war with India, the first targets for China will be industrial areas in northern India. New Delhi is a very vulnerable target to air raids from Tibet airfields. The goal is to destroy India's ability to make war and set it back economically 10 years.

If India suffers a traumatic loss, it would probably be the end of the union. Indians actually don't like each other at all, unless they are from the same state. So there would be a lot of communal violence as people decide what state to belong to, similar to partition.

We have all our Army, Navy, Airforce and even nuclear weapons kept in Parliament so that you can strike only once and win fight.Which standard you study ?

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http://the-diplomat.com/2011/01/25/india’s-doctrinal-shift/

The Indian Army is undertaking its first strategic transformation in more than two decades. And it has its sights firmly on China.

By Nitin Gokhale;

India’s 1.1 million-strong army is on the verge of major doctrinal and organisational change.

Working from the results of a ‘Transformation Study,’ which was produced by a team of generals led by Chief of Army Staff Gen. VK Singh when he was Eastern Army Commander, a series of radical suggestions are set to be implemented to bring about a paradigm shift in the way the Indian Army is deployed and operationalised, both defensively and offensively.

Essentially, the changes are aimed at strengthening the Army’s capacity for fighting what one serving general has described as a war on ‘two and a half fronts’—a reference to possible simultaneous confrontations with Pakistan and China at the same time as managing an internal counter-insurgency effort.

So far, India’s four wars with Pakistan and one with China have been stand-alone conflicts, but India’s strategic thinkers are concerned that there’s a genuine possibility that close allies China and Pakistan could launch a joint offensive against India.

And the Army doesn’t want to be caught flat-footed. Instead, it’s looking for an overhaul in thinking that will produce a force capable of quick mobilization and rapid deployment.

Speaking at his annual media event, on January 15, Singh confirmed that this current line of thinking reaches up to the highest levels of the force. At the event, Singh revealed publicly for the first time that the Army would ‘reorganise, restructure and relocate’ various formations to help transform it into a more agile and lethal force. ‘We’re looking at reorganising and restructuring our force headquarters…for faster decision making, so that it becomes slightly flattened and more responsive,’ he said.

These views chimed with comments he made last year, when he told me: ‘Our focus is now shifting from being an adversary-specific force to a capability-based force, able to fight across the spectrum—in the mountains, in the desert, night and day, in the hot summer or harsh winter.’

According to Singh, the Army is planning ‘test beds’ to try out some of the concepts contained in the study with a view to eventually implementing them on a larger scale. ‘We’re looking at theaterisation of combat support resources to ensure synergy of resources in a theatre,’ he added.

So what does this mean in practical terms? Top generals have indicated that under these plans, the Army will be organised in a way that allows two theatres to be independent of each other so that one theatre won’t require the resources of another if both are engaged in combat operations. In addition, the Army is also reportedly planning to increase its aviation assets by securing more helicopters for the Army Aviation Corps.

It’s been more than two decades since the last transformation in India’s strategic doctrine. Back in the 1980s, the mercurial Gen. K. Sundarji conceptualised and implemented a strategy based around the principle of deploying massive armoured strength aimed at slicing Pakistan at its ‘waist’. This concept was first tested with Operation Brasstacks in the late 1980s, with the army divided into ‘defensive’ and ‘strike’ corps, on the assumption that it would be Pakistan that would make the first move in a conventional war.

Under the plan, the defensive corps, located closer to the border, was meant to absorb the initial Pakistani offensive, while the three strike corps, with massive superior capabilities, were designed to strike deep, with the ultimate aim of cutting Pakistan in two.

However, the limitations of the Sundarji doctrine were exposed in 2001-02 during Operation Parakram, when India mobilised the entire army as a coercive strategy after Pakistan-based terrorists attacked the Indian Parliament. The massive mobilisation took weeks to come to fruition, nullifying whatever advantage India had hoped to derive from moving first. The failure of the Sundarji doctrine prompted India to devise a new strategy popularly known as ‘Cold Start,’ under which the defensive corps close to the border with Pakistan were re-designated as ‘pivot’ corps.

These pivot corps were given enhanced offensive elements under integrated battle groups that consisted of division-sized forces comprising armour, artillery and aviation assets designed to swiftly hit Pakistan before the strike corps, located deeper inside India, could mobilize. Cold Start was meant to see the battle groups in action in less than 48 hours.

Over the past decade, this doctrine has been tested and fine-tuned through a series of exercises in the deserts of Rajasthan and on the plains of Punjab. But this new study looks to take the Cold Start concept to another level by placing all three strike corps under one command to allow for a faster response.

Another new element in the army’s reorganization plan is the formation of a mountain strike corps, which would be deployed closer to India’s vast mountainous border with China, either in the east or the north. The fact is that although no one in India’s military establishment wants to spell it out, China is at the centre of future strategic planning in the Indian armed forces as a whole, not just for the Army.

And, as China looms larger, India’s Defence Ministry is shifting its focus away from Pakistan in its discussions on the Army’s next long-term integrated perspective plan, which will cover the period from 2012 to 2027. Indeed, officials have said the Army has recommended that infrastructure along India’s entire 4000-plus kilometre border with China be swiftly upgraded to enable it to deploy and operate effectively in this difficult terrain.

Specifically, the Army wants the government to build all-weather roads right up to the border, and also connect all important formation headquarters in the high altitude areas of Ladakh, Arunachal Pradesh, Uttaranchal and Himachal Pradesh. Already, more than 75 tactically and strategically important roads are reportedly currently under construction in the areas bordering China, and the army wants these roads to be operational as quickly as possible to increase its ability to deploy and maintain adequate troop strength along the border.

Other elements of the long-term integrated plan are to include the enhancement of meaningful training to prepare for existing and emerging challenges; improving the quality of life and living conditions in forward deployment areas; and enhancing synergies with other services.

Yet even though the plan is technically still under discussion, as far as China goes, then there have already been some developments. For example, two mountain divisions are to be raised in the north-east of the country by the middle of this year. Meanwhile, at least two more divisions to be raised in the next five years will enable the army to have a dedicated Mountain Strike Corps to be deployed in the north-east or in Ladakh.

All this suggests that after nearly two decades of lethargy and indifference, India’s defence planners are bringing in fresh concepts and gearing up to meet future strategic challenges. There’s plenty for them to think about.

Nitin Gokhale is Defence & Strategic Affairs Editor with Indian broadcaster NDTV 24×7
India is undergoing a total reorientation of its army from Pakistan to China in the Eastern Sector. This is probably a political move to coordinate with USA, since USA doesn't really like India threatening Pakistan.

India is preparing for a strike against Chinese forces in the Eastern Sector. Possibly in combination with a crisis situation between USA and China over the Korean peninsula, Diaoyutai or Taiwan. India might even try to use its mountain troops to attack Lhasa.

The most dangerous time for China is here! Ready our nuclear weapons for the biggest war ever to open up the 21st century! The Second Indo-Chinese War could happen as early as 2013.
 
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I agree its a pointless article. Same applies to Pakistan, why it is spending so much on nuclear arsenal if it is for self defence.

War between India and China will surely resuls in world war III and whole of human race will be at stake.

As far as China is concerned , it has to first tackle Korea, Japan and other neighbours , who are suspecting its hostile intentions.
No, we will attack India first, because India is the weakest and most evil of China's enemies. Cruise missiles can rain down on New Delhi within hours of Beijing giving the orders to mobile missile brigades based in Tibet.
 
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chalo chuntu abb uthh jao, skool jaane ka waqt ho gaya...hoooh yeh kya, bistar mein mutra visarjann kar diya tumne...:haha:
Yes we Chinese now know India wants to stab China in the back and then become #1 Asian superpower.:azn: Your intentions are clear.:devil: India wants to see China be defeated by USA alliance so India can take Tibet!

The final defeat of New Delhi will signal China's rise to superpower in the 21st century.:partay: Once India separates into princely states, then China can control the Indian Ocean.
 
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^ In fact, it is India's own social instability that is driving relations with China to go hostile. Indian domestic problems makes the government use China as an external enemy.

I know Indians cannot stop their descent into militant expansionism because otherwise their country goes into chaos, but certainly China will not be taken advantage of by an expansionist India!
 
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^ You want proof? China is already preparing for the Second Indo-Chinese War! Exercises on Tibetan Plateau.

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Ha ha..... India thought it could take advantage of China to advance its expansionist agenda? India wants to be #1 Asian superpower? India wants to dominate all its neighbors?

India's evil agenda will run right into China's steely fist. All other South Asian nations will rejoice at India's humiliation.
 
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In a war with India, the first targets for China will be industrial areas in northern India. New Delhi is a very vulnerable target to air raids from Tibet airfields. The goal is to destroy India's ability to make war and set it back economically 10 years.

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I hope not all the chinese are like you...:woot:

If India suffers a traumatic loss, it would probably be the end of the union. Indians actually don't like each other at all, unless they are from the same state. So there would be a lot of communal violence as people decide what state to belong to, similar to partition


lol wtf :coffee: you wont even get 50 cents for that vomit:taz:
 
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@ hong wu
why do you think there will be war between china and India? as far i can see both nations dont want war. as i have already posted, both nations will try to beat each other in field of commerce. through this way, they will try to achieve the status of economic super power. without giant economy and GDP, both china and India will not able to achieve status of military superpower. they first must have enormous economic weight to back their would be increase in military expenditure. china and India will try to influence Asia by achieving status of economic superpower and not through war. :cheers:
 
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According to the Indian media, the next Sino-Indian war will happen "before 2012".

China could attack India before 2012 - NDTV.com

'Nervous' China may attack India by 2012 - Indian Express


According to the Chinese media... never.

So choose a middle point between the two, and you'll have your answer. Maybe. :D

I pat u on da back
u'r clever but nonetheless wishing for war !

It aint gonna happen in our gaurd :usflag:
When we rise the world will change for ever

enuf of this BS for me, I'm hungry for some spicy Jin Gu fish fillets
See u sometime later :toast_sign:
 
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In the early months of 2013 PLA started to move large no. of divisions into Tibet plateau using the train route and roads close to border with India, Su – 30 MKK and J-11 and J-10 were deployed Tibet With bombers stationed in Chengdu.
India responded with similar actions. Large no of troops deployed on border.
On last week of April Chinese launched the massive cruise and ballistic missile strike on Border strong hold of Indian army and all around North Indian and North Eastern Air Bases.
Within minutes missiles were picked up by radars on Indian side and similar strikes were launched by Indian Military on Tibetan Plateau bases of PLA and border concentration of PLA Military bases within reach of Brahmos, Prithvi and Agni with conventional warheads. All the Air Assets on both Indian and Chinese side were airborne and started to patrol their own area under heavy air defense cover.
Most of the supply lines on both sides were cut with cruise missile taking both road and train routes.
Large no. of Chinese troops started to invade northern sector (Ladakh) and Eastern sector (Arunachal). PLA troops got close to Indian defenses on border within hours.
The invading PLA was with light arms supported by artillery but they were easy target for bunkered Indian troops sitting on strategic heights on Himalayan border In India. PLA rocket artillery concentrated on these bunkers but no significant Results were gained. PLA stuck within Indian border with ever stretching supply lines.
In air both Air forces were thinking to take on enemy on their heavy Air Defenses networks but. IAF remained inside border only cruise missiles and prithvi were doing the job for military.
PLAAF’s jets finally to support their ground troops in Indian side took the risk. Large number of J-10 with full AoA load and Su-30 MKK with strike package with J-11 crossed the border.
It was a massacre for PLAAF in dense Indian Air Defense with full integration of AWACS, S-300 batteries and Su-30 MKI with Mig -29.

Now stuck Chinese started to push Pakistan into war on western front with India. USA and other
World powers warned Pakistan against going into this. Small skirmishes reported on border with India but with no major escalations. USA deployed 2 CBGs near north Arabian Sea warning Pakistan against any misadventure.

Finally PLA withdraw inside Tibetan border taking massive causalities both on ground and air.
 
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