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In case you noticed, there is no popular support for the show of Anarchy. All the polls have consistently shown that the general public does not support this show of Anarchy.
PML-N won the elections. That could not be possible without solid support. It is still there. Most PML-N might have done is to ask the Chinese to pass a message to PA. The upcoming visit by Chineses President is just such a message. Otherwise, they might have cancelled the visit.
It is important to note that a few days ago, when SS returned from China, he refused to resign. He must have had his reasons. So, it is friends helping friends, and not interference as such.
no Bhai no.
It is not "interference". More like showing a trump card.
IK talked about "Umpire ki ungli".
NS showed the umpire that he can get better deals internationally.
If you ever look inside, most of the politics is local, and internal. No matter how much hell is raised in the name of "interference".,
Pakistan may be small compared to India
But still with close to 200 million population, is too big to manipulate. even by super power like USA.
Hope one day you can visit Islu and see it for yourself.
We are dealing here with no democracy but dynasties. Who you will be seeing in coming years are none other than Hamza Shahbaz and Mariam Nawaz from House of Sharifs, Bilawal Bhutto Zardaria and Asifa Bhutto Zardari from the House of Bhuttos, sons and brothers of Wali Khan, Achakzai, etc etc. We as a nation have decided to remain the salves of few families, so be it. If this is what we have opted for, that is exactly what Allah is going to give to us.This is why we should find alternative to NS, and it better not be PPP. Who then? I am scratching my head.... Any suggestions? BTW this is a good next thread idea. Who shall lead Pakistan post-Nawaz Sharif?
We are dealing here with no democracy but dynasties. Who you will be seeing in coming years are none other than Hamza Shahbaz and Mariam Nawaz from House of Sharifs, Bilawal Bhutto Zardaria and Asifa Bhutto Zardari from the House of Bhuttos, sons and brothers of Wali Khan, Achakzai, etc etc. We as a nation have decided to remain the salves of few families, so be it. If this is what we have opted for, that is exactly what Allah is going to give to us.
Tu hi naadaN chand kaliyoN pey qana'at kar gaya,
warna gulshan meiN ilaje taNgi e damaaN bhi tha
We are dealing here with no democracy but dynasties. Who you will be seeing in coming years are none other than Hamza Shahbaz and Mariam Nawaz from House of Sharifs, Bilawal Bhutto Zardaria and Asifa Bhutto Zardari from the House of Bhuttos, sons and brothers of Wali Khan, Achakzai, etc etc. We as a nation have decided to remain the salves of few families, so be it. If this is what we have opted for, that is exactly what Allah is going to give to us.
Tu hi naadaN chand kaliyoN pey qana'at kar gaya,
warna gulshan meiN ilaje taNgi e damaaN bhi tha
We are dealing here with no democracy but dynasties. Who you will be seeing in coming years are none other than Hamza Shahbaz and Mariam Nawaz from House of Sharifs, Bilawal Bhutto Zardaria and Asifa Bhutto Zardari from the House of Bhuttos, sons and brothers of Wali Khan, Achakzai, etc etc. We as a nation have decided to remain the salves of few families, so be it. If this is what we have opted for, that is exactly what Allah is going to give to us.
Tu hi naadaN chand kaliyoN pey qana'at kar gaya,
warna gulshan meiN ilaje taNgi e damaaN bhi tha
Shah Ji,
you start non-dynastic party, I'll vote for you.
and so will my tribe. hahaha
@saiyan0321 , MQM thing is just a bluff and bluster. There are not going to do anything. They are in opposition and they want to look like they are playing their part as opposition. Its just for talking points - nothing else. While Chinese president visits Pakistan, we can not make an omelette of our politics. Army will not allow it.
'They' will use MQM in some other way, later. 'They' are keeping the two trump cards with them. I hope you understand what I mean.
MQM will not join any dharna when it is in process of being wound up.
We will not see any change. You are here, and I am also here. We will see. Though I may no longer be very active here, but I will continue to pay visits, and keep asking time to time about your envisioned real change through the continued dynasty cycles. I am not a wise person, nor do I have any way to see into the future, but during all this time I have observed few things and learned few things, and based on those observations, I can educatedly guess if there is some light at the end of the tunnel or not.The dynamics that propelled PTI are still there. Dynasty politics is perhaps a symptom (a temporary symptom) of political immaturity. With a couple of electoral cycles we will see real change.
It is subcontinental problem mate....... Luckily for us there is a break from dynasty.....
And this is what my dynasty-democracy-loving countrymen most conveniently ignore. Pakistan IS not India, and due to our unique social and religious setup/culture, it would never be like India in 1000 years. Yes, India has gained a lot from an uninterrupted democratic process, but than India started out its journey with leaders such as Nehru, Patel, Azad. We on the other hand....It is subcontinental problem mate....... Luckily for us there is a break from dynasty.....
We will not see any change. You are here, and I am also here. We will see. Though I may no longer be very active here, but I will continue to pay visits, and keep asking time to time about your envisioned real change through the continued dynasty cycles. I am not a wise person, nor do I have any way to see into the future, but during all this time I have observed few things and learned few things, and based on those observations, I can educatedly guess if there is some light at the end of the tunnel or not.
Chinese are willing to work with anybody until their investments are protected. Don't get me wrong but Chinese investment often comes with heavy margins. The only thing that held back the script writers was that the damage to Pakistan's image had Chinese President skipped Pakistan's visit and moved on to India instead. And script writers would have to bear the blame of this happening. We did see Srilankan president and another one (forgot that name) already delaying their visits but nobody cared because while they are very good friends but delay would not be interpreted as a critical signal. And the dharnas are shifting back to abpara for the time being. There's no guarantee that the dharnas would end and as long as dharnas are in Islamabad, there is always a threat that they will bounce back. Shahbaz shareef is meeting COAS to discuss something, the visit is quite surprising.This perhaps was an SOS call from NS to China. A master stroke dare I say.
What IK and TuQ did (and their retired generals aka handlers) not realize that Chinese trust NS much much more compared to any other leader in PaK.
in the eyes of Chinese investors NS and SS have established themselves as honest leaders, who can cut through the red tape so common in the subcontinent baboo culture.
This does not go unnoticed by the many among serving generals in Pak army.
So the impact so far I see is positive and perhaps thanks to China, this crisis in Islu will be resolved soon.
However this is not a lose lose game for IK.
He too can use KPK as a base (though much smaller compared to Punjab), where Chinese investments are protected and Chinese make gazillians of dollars from Pakistani projects (just like they do in pretty much every other country in the world).
And this is what my dynasty-democracy-loving countrymen most conveniently ignore. Pakistan IS not India, and due to our unique social and religious setup/culture, it would never be like India in 1000 years. Yes, India has gained a lot from an uninterrupted democratic process, but than India started out its journey with leaders such as Nehru, Patel, Azad. We on the other hand....
We will not see any change. You are here, and I am also here. We will see. Though I may no longer be very active here, but I will continue to pay visits, and keep asking time to time about your envisioned real change through the continued dynasty cycles. I am not a wise person, nor do I have any way to see into the future, but during all this time I have observed few things and learned few things, and based on those observations, I can educatedly guess if there is some light at the end of the tunnel or not.