The PAF is set to receive a batch of Egyptian Air Force Mirage-Vs

[denel]

yes, replaced by Gripens.

 

[MystryMan]

yes, replaced by Gripens.

are they stored/available for sale?

 

[Viper27]

are they stored/available for sale?

Most of the stored planes have been sold to Ecuador, Chile and a private company in the US for adversary training.

 

[Ark_Angel]

The aim of JF development was to get rid of Western influence and especially US. As their military sales are always attached with strings of foreign policy agenda.
Also at one point Pakistan even rejected Gripen in Musharraf era as Gripen has US engine.
So it is highly unlikely that French Engine or Avionics, radar, fire control system was planned for JF.

Sir no offence intended, just Kindly do some background research about the Mil Projects before coming to conclusions regarding any Wpn Platform. It’s a different world altogether than just black and white. For your information and for other new comers here on PDF, Thunder was planned to have Thales RC-400 Radars, Electronics, EW Pods & Targeting Pods(Damocles), MICA missiles etc under a 1.6 Bn USD Deal with the French which was being negotiated since 05-06. Talks collapsed due to Mr Zardari,Your current Finance Wizard(Dr Hafeez)! and the French Themselves who walked away when they couldn’t see any big Financial incentive coming their way and of course the Indian Gajjar for Rafale!
Imagine the beast Thunder would have been With all the reliable and lethal French Systems, subsystems and weapons.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1250549

As far as i remeber engine was never requested from french..just the avionics and weapon suit

Chengdu 1999-2000 PAF had verbatim commitment by the French to provide Engines for the Thunder aka Super 7 Project. When French Backed out, a lot of sleepless nights were spent on figuring out the next course of Action. Fortunate for the project Ruskies came via the Chinese.

 

[Humble Analyst]

It might but it is no good if it is not going to be offered to us. Look at the Indian game plan. They have held the whole aviation industry to ransom with their promise to procure the "mother of all deals". Meanwhile all they do is eat Halwa puri at the expense of the providers while things are politely or bluntly refused to us. With the Gripen the refusal was fairly blunt. It might also have to do with our weak financial position but none the less it was refused.
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It is a classic example of using a platform which in spite of its age is ideal for the role which it is being used for, is cheap and its loss does not give the enemy any moral victory. In IAF case if we down a couple of 21s it is not a great thing. However the MKI loss is a moral loss of a major frontline platform.
On record I again want to reiterate that the MKI loss might have been due to idiotic and careless lack of apprehension of the enemy plan. I bet if the PAF had followed IAF back into Indian territory we would have suffered losses as well.
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Very good analysis and we have been watching India holding the World hostage by dangling the 100 plus MMRCA deal. Basic objective is to not let anybody sell to Pakistan while delaying in spending the money. You got to admire it in a perverse way.
Mirages are a better delivery weapon even a kid can tell by looking at the under the belly/ wings clearance is more than JF 17 and Mirage can carry more.
Why a lot of people do not understand this.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Mirages are a better delivery weapon even a kid can tell by looking at the under the belly/ wings clearance is more than JF 17 and Mirage can carry more.
Why a lot of people do not understand this.

they do understand and know this but they wish and want that JF17 doubles as everything their imagination can think of.

 

[khanasifm]

Jf 8x10 inch hdd are pac designed with cooperation with Singapore technologies per paf history book and are adopted by paf for jf

 

[umair86]

J-10C is not a heavy hitters if thats what you are looking for. Look towards Russia or Europe if you want heavies.

Heavy hitter doesn't mean to carry 20 AAM J-10 can carry up to 11 that's enough even F-16 with 6 AMRAAM is a heavy hitter.

 

[Thunder-17]

PAF is really making use of its limited resources to its utmost. Good purchase.

 

[denel]

are they stored/available for sale?

Sold already to various South American countries; those were far ahead of what you purchased from EA.

http://www.denelaviation.co.za/album/Cheetah/24

 

[Trango Towers]

In all serious is the F16 available and is it affordable in the V configuration. The Gripen is an opportunity to strengthen our relationship with Sweden and would give us on par F16V capabilities which the JFT is lacking even in B3 upgrade. Failing that then the only choice is the Typhoon which I also prefer but can we afford it. For me Russian jets are out esp as Russia is still backing India and their military sales.

What does the f16V have that the block 3 jf17 doesnt

 

[Haris Ali2140]

What does the f16V have that the block 3 jf17 doesnt

Electronics.
Payload.

 

[Trango Towers]

Electronics.
Payload.

Electronics...
Asea on block 3
Payload I agree. Bug if 17 is a light fighter so a differnet class

 

[Haris Ali2140]

Electronics...
Asea on block 3
Payload I agree. Bug if 17 is a light fighter so a differnet class

APG 83 on Viper is a mate from F-35 and F-22.

 

[Sulemanms202]

nothing better than J 10 for 4.5 gen class considering politics of the region.
J10 C is even better than f 16 70 because we will need US weapons along with that plane