The Need for Greater Pakistan

[Gandhi G in da house]

Guys, like seriously as a well wisher of Pakistan, you should not even be thinking about stuff like this right now.
I don't even need to elaborate why.

 

[Armchair]

What we will gain from occupying Sistan-Baluchestan?

We will gain strategic depth, gold, copper, iron mines. Chabahar port. We will gain access to the Persian Gulf, at a strategic location. Chabahar port can later be developed as an access point for Afghanistan and central asia. We can, in the future, use this geo-strategic location to choke global oil supplies, should we wish.

BTW, the idea of taking Sistan-Baluchestan, is not a new one. The precedent for this was set by, wait for it, Iran itself. In 1971, Iran declared internationally, that should Pakistan fail as a state, they will occupy Pakistani Baluchistan. We would simply be giving them quid pro quo.

 

[El Sidd]

Guys, like seriously as a well wisher of Pakistan, you should not even be thinking about stuff like this right now.
I don't even need to elaborate why.

you cant elaborate anything beyond the indus

 

[ali_raza]

There is a point when you either grow big, or you lose. Pakistan is facing threats from multiple axis, against enemies that are much bigger than her. We have India, with a massive landmass and population to the East. Afghanistan has become a constant source of enmity, terrorism and drugs. And recently we saw the face of Iran against us. The question is, is it time for Pakistan to grow bigger to face these challenges effectively?

The Afghan problem can be effectively solved, and a land route created to central asia, if the bordering Afghan territory is turned into tribaly administered territories, similar to FATA. In the coming war with Iran, Sistan-Balochistan can be taken as a buffer between the coming civil commotion and Pakistan, giving Pakistan access to oil and strategic Persian gulf location.

Taking these border lands would increase Pakistan's territory by about 25%, and give it unique access to Central Asia and the Persian Gulf. The emergent state would be stronger and be able to focus far more of its military resources against any threats from India. It would also save Pakistan from the scourge of terrorism that has bred, and will bread, in these adjacent territories.

The impending US attack on Iran would mean that the US would be happy to have a country take care of Sistan-Balochistan, reducing the difficulty the allies will face against Iran's attempts to block the Persian Gulf. Meanwhile, on the Afghanistan side, in direct clashes, the Afghan Army and administration would be decimated, which would inevitably help the Taliban potentially taking over an even more significant portion of the territories.

If we are brave enough, this could create a state that would be far more defendable and sustainable than what we have right now.

@MastanKhan

i opened a thread about it and all our options were put in
people started mocking me
one even told me drunk

What we will gain from occupying Sistan-Baluchestan?

We will gain strategic depth, gold, copper, iron mines. Chabahar port. We will gain access to the Persian Gulf, at a strategic location. Chabahar port can later be developed as an access point for Afghanistan and central asia. We can, in the future, use this geo-strategic location to choke global oil supplies, should we wish.

BTW, the idea of taking Sistan-Baluchestan, is not a new one. The precedent for this was set by, wait for it, Iran itself. In 1971, Iran declared internationally, that should Pakistan fail as a state, they will occupy Pakistani Baluchistan. We would simply be giving them quid pro quo.

this is the best opportunity

 

[Crystal-Clear]

no way.

 

[nahtanbob]

We can, in the future, use this geo-strategic location to choke global oil supplies, should we wish.

do not tell things you do not comprehend

 

[El Sidd]

do not tell things you do not comprehend

and this interests an american because?

 

[jupiter2007]

Buffer area between Afghanistan and Pakistan

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

@Armchair @ali_raza

It is good for us to discuss these things freely because Pakistanis rarely ever get this chance anywhere else.

We may have our minor differences, but every Pakistani needs to think of Pakistan’s own interests first.

Our nation is an amanat of our bozorg, ghazis, and shuhada.

My view is just to wait and see what happens, in sha Allah, we will act accordingly.

No doubt that Pakistan’s destiny is indeed to expand, as our current geopolitical territory is too small to hold our lofty ideals for a unified, independent, and peaceful Muslim world.

 

[ali_raza]

@Armchair @ali_raza

It is good for us to discuss these things freely because Pakistanis rarely ever get this chance anywhere else.

We may have our minor differences, but every Pakistani needs to think of Pakistan’s own interests first.

Our nation is an amanat of our bozorg, ghazis, and shuhada.

My view is just to wait and see what happens, in sha Allah, we will act accordingly.

No doubt that Pakistan’s destiny is indeed to expand, as our current geopolitical territory is too small to hold our lofty ideals for a unified, independent, and peaceful Muslim world.

pakistan manzil nahi nishan e manzil ha
this was original concept we were to expand our idealism and land

Buffer area between Afghanistan and Pakistan

we will get whole inshallah

 

[CrazyZ]

Buffer area between Afghanistan and Pakistan

At least cut off the ring road...It would make Chabahar useless. What about the Wakhan corridor? The Darand line picked for its defendability...Why abandon it?

 

[nahtanbob]

and this interests an american because?

try choking oil supplies. see how many countries breathe down your neck

 

[SIPRA]

Guys, like seriously as a well wisher of Pakistan, you should not even be thinking about stuff like this right now.
I don't even need to elaborate why.

Do you really believe that it is a serious thread. It is just to pass time during fasting, particularly during afternoon, when glucose levels drop substantially.

 

[Manidabest]

Dont matter if Saudi or Turkish. Just go and read their books.

i read their books and they r very interesting ....

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Chalo yaar raazi raho.
Quraish makkah lakar aur pathar ko sajde karte they
Tum mitti ki dhairion ko aur majzoob ko sajde kar lo.
Hisaab k din bhi Thanvi ko ya ghauss e azam ko pukarna agar wo tumhari kuch mushkil kushai kar saken us din.

i read their books and they r very interesting ....