The Need for Greater Pakistan

[Manidabest]

Chalo yaar raazi raho.
Quraish makkah lakar aur pathar ko sajde karte they
Tum mitti ki dhairion ko aur majzoob ko sajde kar lo.
Hisaab k din bhi Thanvi ko ya ghauss e azam ko pukarna agar wo tumhari kuch mushkil kushai kar saken us din.

yaar aisa karo aap Aalay Saud ko sajda karo aur wahabism ko phalao ...

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Alhamdulilah Allah azza wajal k siwa koi sajde k layik nahi.
Nahi uss k siwa pukarey jane k kabil hai.
Nahi duwaon ka koi aur jawab dene wala hai.
Allahu la ilaha ila hu
Wahdahu la sharik
Hayyan la yamuut
Subhanu amma yushrikoon.

yaar aisa karo aap Aalay Saud ko sajda karo aur wahabism ko phalao ...

 

[Manidabest]

Alhamdulilah Allah azza wajal k siwa koi sajde k layik nahi.
Nahi uss k siwa pukarey jane k kabil hai.
Nahi duwaon ka koi aur jawab dene wala hai.
Allahu la ilaha ila hu
Wahdahu la sharik
Hayyan la yamuut
Subhanu amma yushrikoon.

Baishaak Allah hi Qadir hai ....
[All] praise is [due] to Allah, Lord of the worlds
The Entirely Merciful, the Especially Merciful,
Sovereign of the Day of Recompense.
It is You we worship and You we ask for help.
Guide us to the straight path -
The path of those upon whom You have bestowed favor, not of those who have evoked [Your] anger or of those who are astray.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

You(general population of India, Pakistan, Bangladesh) will quote all of these ayaat. Call yourself an ashiq e rasool and go back to requesting aoliya and saints to make shafaat for you in presence of Allah. Which is just the Quraish used to do.
Age tactic of shaitan is to somehow bring someone whther it be in any shape or form between man and God.

There is nothing hidden/secret in Quran or sunnah. If there was anything like that of benefit to us. Allah would have revealed it to us. Nothing in Quran requires 40 day chillas and loyalty to a peer to discover. We dont follow kabbalah. We follow tawheed and Islam.

If u get it good. If u dont. Then apki akhrat hai bhai. Allah apko hidayat de. Ameen.

Baishaak Allah hi Qadir hai ....
[All] praise is [due] to Allah, Lord of the worlds
The Entirely Merciful, the Especially Merciful,
Sovereign of the Day of Recompense.
It is You we worship and You we ask for help.
Guide us to the straight path -
The path of those upon whom You have bestowed favor, not of those who have evoked [Your] anger or of those who are astray.

 

[El Sidd]

try choking oil supplies. see how many countries breathe down your neck

will you keep count?

 

[Manidabest]

You(general population of India, Pakistan, Bangladesh) will quote all of these ayaat. Call yourself an ashiq e rasool and go back to requesting aoliya and saints to make shafaat for you in presence of Allah. Which is just the Quraish used to do.
Age tactic of shaitan is to somehow bring someone whther it be in any shape or form between man and God.

There is nothing hidden/secret in Quran or sunnah. If there was anything like that of benefit to us. Allah would have revealed it to us. Nothing in Quran requires 40 day chillas and loyalty to a peer to discover. We dont follow kabbalah. We follow tawheed and Islam.

If u get it good. If u dont. Then apki akhrat hai bhai. Allah apko hidayat de. Ameen.

First of all your starting with ( YOU ) sounded very arrogant. Islam and Arrogance dont go hand in hand at all 2nd you are generalizing people of the countries you mentioned as backward and ignorant muslims. again here you are degrading other muslims on the basis of actions done by those who have less knowledge or act without knowledge

by the way all this isis shit is created by salafies and wahabis

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

It is created by khwarijis. They dont belong to any sect.(Majority TTP was deobandi so....I could say that too) but really they don't belong to any sect they are a murderous horde called khwarij.

by the way all this isis shit is created by salafies and wahabis

knowledge

Ok what knowledge do u have that others don't have??

backward and ignorant muslims

I said nothing to that effect. I said that the actions committed by those people constitue to associating others with Allah i.e putting someone in between man and God. That someone doesnt belong there in the first place. No matter how sugar coated the words are.

2nd you are generalizing people of the countries you mentioned

There is grave worship, palmist, jotshi, amil baba, qismat ka haal, totey ka faal, open teachers of satanic black magic on youtube and books on how to make taweez and black magic being distributed in guise of religious books. List goes on n on. Increasing day by day .Still if u say anything to such folks they turn around and play the ashiq e rasool card.
If this was being done in secret gatherings I wouldnt have "generalized as u call it.

It is literally on every corner, chowk and cranny.

Islam and sugar coated shirk don't go hand in hand either.

Islam and Arrogance

 

[Wa Muhammada]

There is a point when you either grow big, or you lose. Pakistan is facing threats from multiple axis, against enemies that are much bigger than her. We have India, with a massive landmass and population to the East. Afghanistan has become a constant source of enmity, terrorism and drugs. And recently we saw the face of Iran against us. The question is, is it time for Pakistan to grow bigger to face these challenges effectively?

The Afghan problem can be effectively solved, and a land route created to central asia, if the bordering Afghan territory is turned into tribaly administered territories, similar to FATA. In the coming war with Iran, Sistan-Balochistan can be taken as a buffer between the coming civil commotion and Pakistan, giving Pakistan access to oil and strategic Persian gulf location.

Taking these border lands would increase Pakistan's territory by about 25%, and give it unique access to Central Asia and the Persian Gulf. The emergent state would be stronger and be able to focus far more of its military resources against any threats from India. It would also save Pakistan from the scourge of terrorism that has bred, and will bread, in these adjacent territories.

The impending US attack on Iran would mean that the US would be happy to have a country take care of Sistan-Balochistan, reducing the difficulty the allies will face against Iran's attempts to block the Persian Gulf. Meanwhile, on the Afghanistan side, in direct clashes, the Afghan Army and administration would be decimated, which would inevitably help the Taliban potentially taking over an even more significant portion of the territories.

If we are brave enough, this could create a state that would be far more defendable and sustainable than what we have right now.

@MastanKhan

This is a bit left sided but I’v got a suggestion ...are u married? If yes get married a second time and after 6 months let us know how you are managing it.

 

[Armchair]

i opened a thread about it and all our options were put in
people started mocking me
one even told me drunk


this is the best opportunity

I am sorry you had a bad experience. I would love to see your thread and to see you contribute in this one.

Buffer area between Afghanistan and Pakistan

Excellent map! Where did you find this? It's kind of what I had in mind, except I want to occupy the ridge lines, which are a tad further. Occupying the ridge lines and heights would make it even more defensible. And the map would also depend on which tribal jirgas agree to join us.

The part along the Baluchistan edge, near Kandahar, it is barren and flat. Nothing lives there. But there is a river that goes through it and could perhaps be made into a fertile plane via irrigation.

 

[jupiter2007]

I am sorry you had a bad experience. I would love to see your thread and to see you contribute in this one.



Excellent map! Where did you find this? It's kind of what I had in mind, except I want to occupy the ridge lines, which are a tad further. Occupying the ridge lines and heights would make it even more defensible. And the map would also depend on which tribal jirgas agree to join us.

The part along the Baluchistan edge, near Kandahar, it is barren and flat. Nothing lives there. But there is a river that goes through it and could perhaps be made into a fertile plane via irrigation.

I will modify it and post it.

 

[Armchair]

I will modify it and post it.

Much appreciated

 

[ali_raza]

I am sorry you had a bad experience. I would love to see your thread and to see you contribute in this one.



Excellent map! Where did you find this? It's kind of what I had in mind, except I want to occupy the ridge lines, which are a tad further. Occupying the ridge lines and heights would make it even more defensible. And the map would also depend on which tribal jirgas agree to join us.

The part along the Baluchistan edge, near Kandahar, it is barren and flat. Nothing lives there. But there is a river that goes through it and could perhaps be made into a fertile plane via irrigation.

same thoughts i had.we need to secure our water ways some 6 small big rivers or water sources come from afghanistan.together they amount to 21 maf that is huge considering indus now a days is max 90 maf so that alone is 25% of our water.since there is no usage in afghanistan its our right.
we need nuristan and kunar asap cos that was never been part of afghanistan
as of now reality is we hold largest pashtoon population we need to further our claim on kandhar.
loya pakhtia which is khost paktia pakhtika has almost same tribs as us.they cannot survive a day without supplying from para chinar and waziristan. that is another area which is low hanging fruit
all we need is some policy change
for now we can go for tibet style self rule and in future it can be merged like fata.
a pashtoon any day would choose pakistan over farsiwan northern alliance

 

[Yankee-stani]

Only Wakhan corridor is of strategic importance to Pakistan which Pakistan doesn't have at the moment because British donated this strip to Afghanistan to avoid having a direct border between Russian Empire and British Indian Empire at that time, the Wakhan corridor/strip truly belongs to Pakistan, it looks unnatural on the map being part of Afghanistan and separating a direct border between Pakistan and Tajikistan.

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The Wakhan is the only part that should be annexed by Pak I agree screw the rest of that tribal infested craphole and this Indo-Aryan larpers

 

[nahtanbob]

will you keep count?

You can start with Saudi Arabia and UAE. They can throw out 3 million expatriates if you choke off their exports

 

[El Sidd]

You can start with Saudi Arabia and UAE. They can throw out 3 million expatriates if you choke off their exports

ok