The Lightning Barak 8

[MokshaVimukthi]

SaMS are cheap and Effective Defensive Weapons Against Aircrafts Barak-8 is Effective Weapons of All kinds or Aerial threat Barak 8 has been designed to counter a wide variety of air-borne threats, such as; anti-ship missiles, aircraft, UAVs and drones as well as supersonic cruise missiles
Intercept test validates Barak 8 air defense system maturity | Defense Update:

Funny how it does not say Aircrafts and fighter jets.

2 Mach max speed is obviously BS. Its around 4 Mach.

No link that claims it so far. Israel is usually the first to broadcast its ability, they usually exaggerate them. Nothing so far.

 

[NKVD]

Funny how it does not say Aircrafts and fighter jets.

Read it Again or Go to Check up of your Eyes
SaMS are cheap and Effective Defensive Weapons Against Aircrafts Barak-8 is Effective Weapons of All kinds or Aerial threat Barak 8 has been designed to counter a wide variety of air-borne threats, such as; anti-ship missiles, aircraft, UAVs and drones as well as

 

[MokshaVimukthi]

Read it Again or Go to Check up of your Eyes
SaMS are cheap and Effective Defensive Weapons Against Aircrafts Barak-8 is Effective Weapons of All kinds or Aerial threat Barak 8 has been designed to counter a wide variety of air-borne threats, such as; anti-ship missiles, aircraft, UAVs and drones as well as
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Ya, Photo shop pictures and brochures are the ultimate proof.

 

[NKVD]

Ya, Photo shop pictures and brochures are the ultimate proof.

yeah like aircraft can go mach 2 for hours and Aircraft can go for Strike mission & Air Refueling without being Detected
PS: One question Due you Know how Much Time An Aircraft take to reach Full Speed of Mach 2 ??

 

[MokshaVimukthi]

yeah like aircraft can go mach 2 for hours and Aircraft can go for Strike mission & Air Refueling without being Detected
One question Due you Know how Much Time Aircraft take to reach Full Speed of Mach 2 ??

 

[500]

Funny how it does not say Aircrafts and fighter jets.

No link that claims it so far. Israel is usually the first to broadcast its ability, they usually exaggerate them. Nothing so far.

1) Israel often classifies abilities and even missile existence itself (for example Spike NLOS aka Tamuz was classified for over decade). Plus this missile is not Israeli but joint development.
2) Wikipedia number u used are 100% BS. 4.5 m length 0.54 m diameter? U can clearly see from the pics its L/D ratio is about 20.
3) Barak 8 aerodynamic scheme is very similar to S-400 missile. So characteristics should be similar too.

 

[NKVD]

ohhh Mann Complete Fanboyish demonstration from your Part As (Aspected) Don't Deviate from a Debate now
I Asked you question Do you Know how Much time an Aircraft Take to Reach its Full Supersonic Speed of Mach 2 with afterburners ??Answer that First Till Now Enough Rants Came From you but No Credential Facts In Debate

 

[SajeevJino]

1) Israel often classifies abilities and even missile existence itself (for example Spike NLOS aka Tamuz was classified for over decade). Plus this missile is not Israeli but joint development.
2) Wikipedia number u used are 100% BS. 4.5 m length 0.54 m diameter? U can clearly see from the pics its L/D ratio is about 20.
3) Barak 8 aerodynamic scheme is very similar to S-400 missile. So characteristics should be similar too.

There is also a Barak NG on the Tables who's range more than 100 km. can be act as a Theater ballistic missile defence system with typical air defense Capabilities.

 

[MokshaVimukthi]

ohhh Mann Complete Fanboyish demonstration from your Part As (Aspected) Don't Deviate from a Debate now
I Asked you question Do you Know how Much time an Aircraft Take to Reach its Full Supersonic Speed of Mach 2 with afterburners ??Answer that First Till Now Enough Rants Came From you but No Credential Facts In Debate

Why the fcuk should I even bother to answer that you fool ................ shouting just makes you look Desperate and frustrated.

Do you even know what a fan boy is ?

 

[SvenSvensonov]

IAF inducting Barak 8 is quite puzzling. It is an excellent Anti Missile Missile but it is not a very good Anti-Aircraft missile.

IAF needs a very good long range Anti-Aircraft missile that has an effective range of 100 Km or more.

That's not too puzzling or unique. PAC-3, THAAD and SM-3 are all better at intercepting missiles than they are at intercepting aircraft. SM-2 and PAC-2 are the opposite. SM-6 retains a healthy mix of anti-aircraft and anti-missile defense, though its high-altitude missile defense capabilities don't approach those of SM-3. All of these missiles can perform either role, but none will be able to do so better than a dedicated anti-air or missile defense platform.

This is why a healthy mix of missiles is important. The US uses the SM-3, SM-2 and SM-6, all augmenting each other. Same with PAC-2 (GEM+) and PAC-3 to supplement THAAD. No missile is going to be good at everything.

Compare this - MIM-104D Patriot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

With this - MIM-104F Patriot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And this - THAAD: Reach Out and Touch Ballistic Missiles

If you want to be effective against ICBMs (that's not a typo!), like THAAD or SM-3, you need to compromise your anti-aircraft capabilities.

Compare this - RIM-66 Standard - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

with this - RIM-161 Standard Missile 3 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and this - RIM-174 Standard ERAM - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Different needs, different roles, different capabilities... all with some compromise against something.

For the IN, Barak 8 will supplement Barak 1 and several other missile types to provide all aspect defense (minus high-altitude missile defense - India doesn't yet have an SM-3 analog).

Barak 1 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Barak 8 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Barak 8 has anti-air and anti-missile capabilities, just like all the missiles I just mentioned.

It's just the reality of missile/aircraft defense. Nothing too puzzling about it. It's rather normal.

 

[MokshaVimukthi]

That's not too puzzling or unique. PAC-3, THAAD and SM-3 are all better at intercepting missiles than they are at intercepting aircraft. SM-2 and PAC-2 are the opposite. SM-6 retains a healthy mix of anti-aircraft and anti-missile defense, though its high-altitude missile defense capabilities don't approach those of SM-3.

This is why a healthy mix of missiles is important. The US uses the SM-3, SM-2 and SM-6, all augmenting each other. Same with PAC-2 (GEM+) and PAC-3 to supplement THAAD. No missile is going to be good at everything.

Compare this - MIM-104D Patriot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

With this - MIM-104F Patriot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And this - THAAD: Reach Out and Touch Ballistic Missiles

If you want to be effective against ICBMs, like THAAD or SM-3, you need to compromise your anti-aircraft capabilities.

Compare this - RIM-66 Standard - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

with this - RIM-161 Standard Missile 3 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and this - RIM-174 Standard ERAM - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Different needs, different roles, different capabilities... all with some compromise against something.

For the IN, Barak 8 will supplement Barak 1 and several other missile types to provide all aspect defense (minus high-altitude missile defense - India doesn't yet have an SM-3 analog).

It's just the reality of missile/aircraft defense. Nothing too puzzling about it. It's rather normal.

That is quite right, but all those missiles you mentioned all were Mach 4 or greater. That made them good at intercepting aircraft's too.

Barak 1 has no role in the IAF. It had limited role in the IN. Barak 8 is suppose to replace Barak 1 since its engagement envelop extends well into Barak 1 range.

Anti Ballistic missile defence is a whole different ball game and India has already developed PAD and AAD and does not need Barak 8 for that role.

IAF was looking out for a dedicated Anti Aircraft missile similar to Aster 30, but I think DRDO has proposed a SAM based on Astra A2A missile. This will be for High altitude air defence role.

 

[NKVD]

Why the fcuk should I even bother to answer that you fool ................ shouting just makes you look Desperate and frustrated.

Do you even know what a fan boy is ?

That's Explain Everything And your technical Expertise Regarding this Matter.Your Post Represent what you are

 

[MokshaVimukthi]

That's Explain Everything And your technical Expertise Regarding this Matter.Your Post Represent what you are

Ya it does .....and I have no problems with it.

 

[bloo]

That is quite right, but all those missiles you mentioned all were Mach 4 or greater. That made them good at intercepting aircraft's too.

Barak 1 has no role in the IAF. It had limited role in the IN. Barak 8 is suppose to replace Barak 1 since its engagement envelop extends well into Barak 1 range.

Anti Ballistic missile defence is a whole different ball game and India has already developed PAD and AAD and does not need Barak 8 for that role.

IAF was looking out for a dedicated Anti Aircraft missile similar to Aster 30, but I think DRDO has proposed a SAM based on Astra A2A missile. This will be for High altitude air defence role.

Why are you are still saying that? Where have you read that it will be not as good as a land based SAM? Or is it just your personal opinion when scientists from 2 countries are saying otherwise?
ABM missiles intercept ballistic missiles traveling as fast as 20 mach, THAAD can only go as fast as 8-9mach.
Speed is not an issue.
They have already tested Barak-8 against targets mimicking high flying maneuverable jet fighter bombers.

• From supersonic skimmers to high altitude targets by all weather
• Multiple simulataneous engagements in severe saturation scenarios
• Stand-Alone data link optimizing task forces and missiles coordination
• Vertical launch active missile, easily fitting on existing or new ships

Barak-8 meets and exceeds performance of other similar defense systems, while maintaining unique advantages:

• A flexible dual pulse motor system provides high maneuver capability at target interception range throughout Barak-8's wide envelope.
• Low weight and small size (about half of similar systems!) – for small impact on carrying ship.
• Low signatures (carry, launch & flight) – for high ship survivability.
• Safe ship carry & launch – with a small missile and proven vertical launcher concept.
• Robust multi-missile coexistence and multi-target capability (supported by seeker, DL & WCS) – enables operation in highly saturated operational scenarios.
• High performance warhead - robust kill mechanism

http://www.iai.co.il/Sip_Storage//FILES/4/40344.pdf

Israel Concludes Developmental Testing of Barak-8 Missile Defense System

Nov. 10, 2014 - 04:51PM |

TEL AVIV — Israeli and Indian forces are mere months away from initial deployment of respective sea- and land-based Barak-8 defenses following a successful Monday morning test here capping six years of cooperative development.

Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI) said the Nov. 10 full system intercept test validated all elements of the locally developed air and missile defense system and transitions the program into operational testing as it ramps up to serial production.

“The system is now operational,” said Boaz Levy, executive vice president and general manager of IAI’s Systems, Missiles and Space Group.

“All components of sea- and land-based systems were validated under realistic threat conditions,” Levy said of the vertically launched intercepting system designed for persistent defense against saturation attacks by long-range missiles and a spectrum of air-breathing threats.

Briefing reporters Nov. 10, Levy said he expected Barak-8 partners in Israel and India to declare initial operational capability (IOC) in “a number of months.”

At the same time, he said IAI and its team of subcontractors are already supplying the system to “a number of customers” whom he declined to identify beyond flagship users here and in New Delhi.

A delegation of Indian scientists and military officers joined Israeli counterparts participating in the milestone test against an air-breathing target mimicking advanced maneuvering capabilities of fighter bombers.

IAI President Joseph Weiss said the test marked wholesale validation of Barak-8 system elements, from the phased-array digital radar that detected and continuously tracked the target to the weapon-control system that calculated the optimal point for launching the intercepting missile that ultimately destroyed the targeted threat.

Conducted under “complex” conditions, Weiss said the test proved “impressive advanced capabilities” of Barak-8, the air and missile defense system flagged as “a major growth engine” for IAI.

Avinash Chander, head of the Indian Defense Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) and scientific adviser to India’s defense minister, characterized the Nov. 10 test as “an important milestone” in bilateral cooperation between India and Israel.

Ophir Shoham, a rear admiral in the Israel Navy reserves who heads the Israeli Defense Ministry’s research and development directorate (DDR&D), cited close bilateral ties forged from protracted cooperation in the face of technological challenges.

“The Barak-8 project expresses a constructive cooperation between the Indian DRDO and the Israeli DDR&D and the armed forces of both nations,” Shoham said. “Together, they have pushed forward this important program, overcoming technological challenges and earning achievements along the way.”

 

[MokshaVimukthi]

Why are you are still saying that? Where have you read that it will be not as good as a land based SAM? Or is it just your personal opinion when scientists from 2 countries are saying otherwise?
ABM missiles intercept ballistic missiles traveling as fast as 20 mach, THAAD can only go as fast as 8-9mach.
Speed is not an issue.
They have already tested Barak-8 against targets mimicking high flying maneuverable jet fighter bombers.


http://www.iai.co.il/Sip_Storage//FILES/4/40344.pdf

Israel Concludes Developmental Testing of Barak-8 Missile Defense System

Nov. 10, 2014 - 04:51PM |

TEL AVIV — Israeli and Indian forces are mere months away from initial deployment of respective sea- and land-based Barak-8 defenses following a successful Monday morning test here capping six years of cooperative development.

Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI) said the Nov. 10 full system intercept test validated all elements of the locally developed air and missile defense system and transitions the program into operational testing as it ramps up to serial production.

“The system is now operational,” said Boaz Levy, executive vice president and general manager of IAI’s Systems, Missiles and Space Group.

“All components of sea- and land-based systems were validated under realistic threat conditions,” Levy said of the vertically launched intercepting system designed for persistent defense against saturation attacks by long-range missiles and a spectrum of air-breathing threats.

Briefing reporters Nov. 10, Levy said he expected Barak-8 partners in Israel and India to declare initial operational capability (IOC) in “a number of months.”

At the same time, he said IAI and its team of subcontractors are already supplying the system to “a number of customers” whom he declined to identify beyond flagship users here and in New Delhi.

A delegation of Indian scientists and military officers joined Israeli counterparts participating in the milestone test against an air-breathing target mimicking advanced maneuvering capabilities of fighter bombers.

IAI President Joseph Weiss said the test marked wholesale validation of Barak-8 system elements, from the phased-array digital radar that detected and continuously tracked the target to the weapon-control system that calculated the optimal point for launching the intercepting missile that ultimately destroyed the targeted threat.

Conducted under “complex” conditions, Weiss said the test proved “impressive advanced capabilities” of Barak-8, the air and missile defense system flagged as “a major growth engine” for IAI.

Avinash Chander, head of the Indian Defense Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) and scientific adviser to India’s defense minister, characterized the Nov. 10 test as “an important milestone” in bilateral cooperation between India and Israel.

Ophir Shoham, a rear admiral in the Israel Navy reserves who heads the Israeli Defense Ministry’s research and development directorate (DDR&D), cited close bilateral ties forged from protracted cooperation in the face of technological challenges.

“The Barak-8 project expresses a constructive cooperation between the Indian DRDO and the Israeli DDR&D and the armed forces of both nations,” Shoham said. “Together, they have pushed forward this important program, overcoming technological challenges and earning achievements along the way.”

This is getting ridiculous.

Learn to read and then understand what you have read. My reasoning is mentioned right in the first page so there is not need for me to repeat it again. I suggest you go back and read it.