Consider this, for Astra with a range of 80 km, in chase mode its range is 20 km. Now this is a missile that goes at mach 4 - 4.5
Why would you even assume that a Barak 8 with a range of 70 km has a chase mode zone of more than 20 km ? That too with a reported speed of Mach 2 ?
Why???? Coz Barak-8 is a SURFACE TO AIR MISSILE not an air to air missile that's why.
An A2A missile has a low powered engine to reduce weight so as to not hamper the T2W ratio of the fighter too much.
What? How could you come to such an uneven reasoning?
If you were true then there would be no SAM in the world worth investing on, hell if you were true SA-2s in the vietnam war would have had no kill at all.
Dude give me a link or keep it to yourself.
I don't know what you do for a living but they are scientists, and IAI has years of experience creating missiles and every other defence equipment, I would believe them over you any day, so yes Mach 2 it is.
If you are going to go outside the scope of Barak 8 discussion, then there is no point in this. I am not discussing IAF strategy, but how effective Barak 8 is.
Fly nape of the earth, the radar will not even pick up the aircraft till its too late. When not, the aircraft too will detect the radar lock and missile launch long before to take necessary evasive manoeuvres and countermeasures.
Non one has claimed Barak 8 is useless, only its has limited capabilities.
Seriously? Again with the strawman argument. YOUR POINT IS MOOT IF YOU DON"T CONSIDER THESE POINTS. This is the scope you should consider, these are not your games where the missile is a standalone system, it is supported by multiple military systems which ensures success.
Fly nape of the earth and fighter will not be be able to conduct your "standoff missions".
As for the "take necessary evasive manoeuvres and countermeasures", I already explained they are useless in a C3ISTAR environment, where SAMs, fighters and multiple radars both ground and air are targeting the fighter.
And maneuver how?
When Barak 8 does 80g while the fighter does not even do 20g.
It doesn't matter what the plane's radar detects it will be too late when the missile is actually launched regardless of the countermeasures.
What world are you living in?
You think a fighter can go past multiple ground radars, aerostat radars and SAMs with no resistance.
Please go read about NOE flight properly this time. Noe flight doesn't mean that the fighters are completely invisible to ground radars it just means they are out of range until a certain area. Explain to me, how the planes will go past multiple ground radars covering the border?
Answer me this?
Excluding its speed, both range and altitude of SPYDER missiles is lower by whole lot than that of Barak-8. Why would IAF and 3 other airforces buy those?