The "Islamic State" Comes To Europe, Big Thanks To Loose Immigration

[Hiptullha]

And i'm glad you also acknowledge that they are lazy bums who feed off other the Zakat money of Kafirs, which is truly embarrassing.

There's a reason those two statements were in speech marks.

So you acknowledge that the silence of Muslim immigrants with regards to criminals within their communities equal to their complacency.

Nowhere did I say anything like that.

Doesn't prove anything.

First, you tell me to back my claims up. When I do, you tell me they're apparently using American-built power plants. When I point out that this doesn't change anything, you tell me it doesn't prove that ISIS has been more successful in governing Iraq than the previous government.

 

[Desert Fox]

There's a reason those two statements were in speech marks.




Nowhere did I say anything like that.

Anyhow, like i said before, when Native Europeans start retaliating in brutal and random attacks against Muslim immigrants no one will listen to the pathetic cries of Muslims about "racism" and "generalization":

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First, you tell me to back my claims up. When I do, you tell me they're apparently using American-built power plants. When I point out that this doesn't change anything, you tell me it doesn't prove that ISIS has been more successful in governing Iraq than the previous government.

Yes, they are using American built infrastructure. Or are you telling me ISIS has a power plant manufacturing facility where they assemble and build electricity generators and that all ISIS fighters are qualified engineers and mechanics??

Secondly, i can't take you're word for everything because you have not lived under ISIS authority to prove most of your claims.

 

[Hiptullha]

Anyhow, like i said before, when Native Europeans start retaliating in brutal and random attacks against Muslim immigrants no one will listen to the pathetic excuses of Muslims about "racism" and "generalization":

This has absolutely got nothing to do with your original accusations. Anyways, I don't see the rise of the far-right in Europe a real threat. It's like how Protestant North Americans responded to Eastern-European Catholic Jews and Catholics coming to the US and Canada and bringing socialism and anarchism along with them. They'll make a lot of noise, but eventually, they'll die down.

Because you aren't a authentic source.

But the 2 links are, are they not? We just need to look at news reports on ISIS. American intelligence officials are telling us about how ISIS is more than just a bunch of ragtag guerrilla fighters.

Or are you telling me ISIS has a power plant manufacturing facility where they assemble and build electricity generators and that all ISIS fighters are qualified engineers and mechanics??

What I'm telling you is that they've been successful in setting up a state and establishing state machinery. They've got greater control than the previous Iraqi government had.

 

[Desert Fox]

Anyways, I don't see the rise of the far-right in Europe a real threat. It's like how Protestant North Americans responded to Eastern-European Catholic Jews and Catholics coming to the US and Canada and bringing socialism and anarchism along with them. They'll make a lot of noise, but eventually, they'll die down.

Since when were Jews and Catholics beheading Americans in the name of Judaism/Catholicism and blowing up American people in suicide bombings??

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Yeah, right, far right will "die down" in your dreams.

But the 2 links are, are they not? We just need to look at news reports on ISIS. American intelligence officials are telling us about how ISIS is more than just a bunch of ragtag guerrilla fighters.

These are the same links which claimed Iraq was stabilized under American occupation and that Saddam had WMD's, etc.....

What I'm telling you is that they've been successful in setting up a state and establishing state machinery. They've got greater control than the previous Iraqi government had.

And you're not a legitimate source because you never lived under ISIS's authority to pass any judgement.

 

[Hiptullha]

Since when were Jews and Catholics beheading Americans in the name of Judaism/Catholicism and blowing up American people in suicide bombings??

Well, socialists and anarchists from Europe were involved in terrorist attacks and plots. Immigrants weren't easily assimilated either and a number of them were involved in crime, gangs, etc. I'm not sure if Catholics were involved in anything, but they weren't given an easy time either. There were a number of claims that Catholicism was incompatible with democracy, Catholics were evil, etc. I don't need to explain much about what was thought of Jews.

These are the same links which claimed Iraq was stabilized under American occupation.

Does it say that anywhere? Opinions do change over time though. The rise of ISIS in Iraq proves the failure of the Iraqi government. Demoralized troops, alienated majority, bad governance etc.

And you're not a legitimate source because you never lived under ISIS's authority to pass any judgement.

I am taking information which comes from intelligence agencies and analysts and making a judgement.

Yeah, right, far right will "die down" in your dreams.

It certainly will. It's just a phase.

 

[Desert Fox]

Well, socialists and anarchists from Europe were involved in terrorist attacks and plots. Immigrants weren't easily assimilated either and a number of them were involved in crime, gangs, etc. I'm not sure if Catholics were involved in anything, but they weren't given an easy time either. There were a number of claims that Catholicism was incompatible with democracy, Catholics were evil, etc. I don't need to explain much about what was thought of Jews.

Could you give me a single incident of Jews/Catholics beheading people in the name of Judaism/Catholicism and blowing innocent people up?? Links would be appreciated.

Does it say that anywhere? Opinions do change over time though. The rise of ISIS in Iraq proves the failure of the Iraqi government. Demoralized troops, alienated majority, bad governance etc.

ISIS could just be a phase.

I am taking information which comes from intelligence agencies and analysts and making a judgement.

Well then your judgement is wrong.

It's just a phase.

The last time somebody said that millions of people ended up in concentration camps.

European election results 2014: Far-right parties flourish across Europe - Europe - World - The Independent

 

[Lord ZeN]

Could you give me a single incident of Jews/Catholics beheading people in the name of Judaism/Catholicism and blowing innocent people up?? Links would be appreciated.




ISIS could just be a phase.





Well then your judgement is wrong.




The last time somebody said that millions of people ended up in concentration camps.

European election results 2014: Far-right parties flourish across Europe - Europe - World - The Independent

Are you really a Pakistani - Sunni Muslim ?? I have never seen a Pak Muslim post things like this .

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Are you really a Pakistani - Sunni Muslim

No. He is from Mars.

 

[Hiptullha]

The last time somebody said that millions of people ended up in concentration camps.

You're hyping a bunch of thugs and sensationalists who've managed to get a hold of the bitter feelings of Europe.

Well then your judgement is wrong.

And your judgement is correct? It's based on denial! "No, you're wrong, you don't have proof. Those links aren't proof, you aren't an authentic source, so no proof."

ISIS could just be a phase.

It is. But the fact that it has risen shows that the previous government failed in its duties.

Could you give me a single incident of Jews/Catholics beheading people in the name of Judaism/Catholicism and blowing innocent people up?? Links would be appreciated.

I never made this claim. On the other hand, I have told you of the anarchist and socialist terrorism in the West during the 19th and early 20th century and their disruptive activities which led to a similar movement which we seen in today's Europe.

 

[Desert Fox]

You're hyping a bunch of thugs and sensationalists who've managed to get a hold of the bitter feelings of Europe.

Nope, not at all.

E.U. nationalism surges at the polls - The Washington Post

Across Europe Nationalism Is on the Rise | John Wight

Anger at austerity, immigration feeds far right's rise in Europe - CNN.com


Europeans/Westerners would never accept an alien group of people calling for their demise, no matter what you tell yourself.

And your judgement is correct?

My judgement, unlike yours, is based on what has already been proven based on past events. ISIS rules no differently from the TTP in Swat Valley or from the Al-Shabab in Somalia or from the extremist militias that took over Libya in the wake of Ghaddafi's fall. They rule with terror and intimidation and the end result is a society that goes backwards in terms of technological and scientific advancement..

But the fact that it has risen shows that the previous government failed in its duties.

Initial success means absolutely nothing.

I never made this claim. On the other hand, I have told you of the anarchist and socialist terrorism in the West during the 19th and early 20th century and their disruptive activities which led to a similar movement which we seen in today's Europe.

You're comparing apples to oranges. European Catholics are still European in terms of race, culture, traditions, etc. 90% of Muslim immigrants in the West aren't Europeans racially, culturally, or in terms of religion. Thus European Catholics will still easily assimilate into another Western country like Canada or America but Muslims won't and neither would Westerners easily accept Muslims as one of their own especially considering the fact that Muslims call for their destruction on a daily basis.

 

[Hiptullha]

You're comparing apples to oranges. European Catholics are still European in terms of race, culture, traditions, etc. 90% of Muslim immigrants in the West aren't Europeans racially, culturally, or in terms of religion. Thus European Catholics will still easily assimilate into another Western country like Canada or America but Muslims won't and neither would Westerners easily accept Muslims as one of their own especially considering the fact that Muslims call for their destruction on a daily basis.

Not what the KKK and Nativist movements believed during that era. They claimed that Catholicism was incompatible with modern democracy, Eastern Europeans would never assimilate or would form their own state etc.

nitial success means absolutely nothing.

Definitely tells us about the failure of the state.

. They rule with terror and intimidation .

This does not change the fact that they're governing Iraq better than Nouri-Al-Maliki's government did.

Nope, not at all.
E.U. nationalism surges at the polls - The Washington Post
Across Europe Nationalism Is on the Rise | John Wight
Anger at austerity, immigration feeds far right's rise in Europe - CNN.com
Europeans/Westerners would never accept an alien group of people calling for their demise, no matter what you tell yourself.

Like I said, playing with the bitter feelings of the Europeans.

 

[Desert Fox]

Not what the KKK and Nativist movements believed during that era. They claimed that Catholicism was incompatible with modern democracy, Eastern Europeans would never assimilate or would form their own state etc.

Again your comparing apples to oranges. Catholics and Eastern Europeans are still more likely to assimilate into another Christian/European society than a Muslim is.

Definitely tells us about the failure of the state.

No doubt the Iraqi state was/still is corrupt and sectarian minded. Its a backwards mentality prevalent throughout the Muslim world.

This does not change the fact that they're governing Iraq better than Nouri-Al-Maliki's government did.

Only for those who gain from ISIS's repressive sectarian authority, can't so that for women, religious and sectarian minorities though.

Like I said, playing with the bitter feelings of the Europeans.

Just like ISIS won't accept Yazidis and other religious/sectarian minorities so too will Europeans not accept Muslims as their own any time soon. You can continue to tell yourself otherwise though, won't make a difference.

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[type93]

This is why the eu should never allow turkey in. Imagine tens of millions of highly radicalized citizens with unlimited access to every city in Europe. That would make the Europe of today look mild

 

[Hiptullha]

Again your comparing apples to oranges. Catholics and Eastern Europeans are still more likely to assimilate into another Christian/European society than a Muslim is.

Then tell me why the the citizens and even the government of that era felt differently about that. How was their fear of Eastern Europeans any different from the current fear of Muslims?

No doubt the Iraqi state was/still is corrupt and sectarian minded.

So you accept that the previous Iraqi government was a failed state. Good to see you agree.

Only for those who gain from ISIS's repressive sectarian authority, can't so that for women, religious and sectarian minorities though.

Yes, the majority.

Europeans not accept Muslims as their own any time soon. You can continue to tell yourself otherwise though, won't make a difference.

You've based your judgement on what Hitler was doing to Jews in Nazi Germany and assumed people are going to do the same now. We're not in the 1930s anymore where this sort of stuff will happen with a snap of the fingers. The new nationalists are going to need a lot more than a Goebbels to do anything like the Nazis were doing.

How To Treat Religious Minorities The Pakistani/Muslim Way:

OT.

 

[Desert Fox]

Then tell me why the the citizens and even the government of that era felt differently about that. How was their fear of Eastern Europeans any different from the current fear of Muslims?

It was more of a sectarian or political ideological difference within European countries between people's of the same race and nationalities.

If you still believe that Europeans/Non-Muslims in the West will accept Muslim immigrants as their own then you only need to look at the Indian Subcontinent and why india and Pakistan separated despite Muslims, Hindus, and Sikhs lived together more almost 1,000 years.

So you accept that the previous Iraqi government was a failed state. Good to see you agree.

I never said it was a competent gov.t, just ISIS in another form.

Yes, the majority.

If majority are the ones who behead, massacre minorities, blow up schools and Churches, rape women, all in the name of Islam then yes!!

You've based your judgement on what Hitler was doing to Jews in Nazi Germany and assumed people are going to do the same now. We're not in the 1930s anymore where this sort of stuff will happen with a snap of the fingers. The new nationalists are going to need a lot more than a Goebbels to do anything like the Nazis were doing.

People can do crazy things when pushed to the limit.



I'm sure with Daily Reminders like these Europeans will make sure to wipe out each and every Muslim within their countries when the opportunity arises: