The Indian Rafale: Why Pakistan Should Celebrate! -Opinion (ALL Rafale posts here please)

[saad ahmad]

India always had the air advantage over Pak..

. Only in papers

 

[Humble Analyst]

Today marks the official signing of the long awaited, discussed, contested contract of Rafale aircraft for Indian Air Force. Enter the first western designed fifth generation multi-role fighter aircraft, most suitable for Indian desire of airspace domination over the sub-continent.

However, I find today as the real reason for celebration across many circles, including Pakistan's military community. Why, you may reckon? The procurement of 36 Rafales is exactly where India should not be.

Here is my opinion!

A) The selection of Rafale, after many painstaking years was to replace the Migs of India, which are in hundreds. Out of 120 aircraft, only 36 are being procured, which defeats the purpose of the induction.

B) The French Dassault are notoriously expensive. The "cost through life" of their bird is 6 times any of its contemporary, ensuring that budget will always be short, and always be tight.

C) Till the time the aircraft capabilities are fully realized, it would already be fully neutralized by competitive procurements in the region.

D) Once Indian pilots fly the Rafale, the interest in TEJAS will diminish further, creating an internal battle of buying foreign versus building local, hence jeopardizing both programs.

E) The Rafale aircraft purchase kills the "make in india" dream of the Modi government, which shows that this decision is a panic decision to stop gap fill the entirely low serviceability rates of IAF, combined with shrinking squadron numbers and lack of pilots.

F) The Rafale deal essentially closes the door in Indian Air Force for BAE Systems Eurofighter Typhoon, and BAE Systems ES products. This will re-open the opportunity of other countries to access the platform/avionics from these sources.

G) Rafale program is essentially a lame duck political approach, which exemplifies the military policy of the state being run by civilians, never coming up to the expectation of uniformed professionals.

H) Rafale deal is highly suspected of big bribes from the French to all levels within the Indian administration, MOD, and IAF, which will eventually come out and further derail any future procurement plans of IAF to meet the existing and future requirements.

B and H plausible reasons rest not sure where they come from

 

[hussain0216]

LOL in your wet dreams only displaying false bravado and bragging and ranting by pakitanis is not going to change our opinion about them, so kiddo your nonsense talk hold no value for us

So you and the other hindutvawadis talk big, but when Mumbai or a Pathankot or Uri happen's your just going to chicken out

 

[saad ahmad]

India always had the air advantage over Pak.
Rafale is not for them.

Are u sure ???
https://defence.pk/threads/pakistan...-air-force-indian-parliamentary-panel.350091/

 

[Tamilnadu]

So you and the other hindutvawadis talk big, but when Mumbai or a Pathankot or Uri happen's your just going to chicken out

so what has Pakistan done after thousands dead which they claim are planned in Afghanistan ,and how many times have Pakistan attacked Afghanistan. its not like street fight between countries. now If Pakistan chickened out in front of Afghanistan which dsnt even have enough forces to begin with.

 

[Great Janjua]

so what has Pakistan done after thousands dead which they claim are planned in Afghanistan ,and how many times have Pakistan attacked Afghanistan. its not like street fight between countries. now If Pakistan chickened out in front of Afghanistan which dsnt even have enough forces to begin with.

Expert at pulling shit from your *** you little Indian

 

[Tamilnadu]

Expert at pulling shit from your *** you little Indian

where else do you pull sh!t other than your ***

 

[thrilainmanila]

after inducting over 200 SU-30s, 60 M2000, and 70 mig-29s, 70 odd vintage F-16s still have them shaking in there boots to which they need Rafale, pathetic people.

 

[RAAJ大和]

1 F-16 = 2 SU-30
1 Rafale = 2 F-16

Have you seen the combat range of both planes 4220 km for F-16 and 3700 kilometers for Rafale which is low, and there is not much difference in specification too.

 

[aftab_s81]

TXF is a 2050 project. Not a glimps of it before that. V may look to accelerate J-31 program.

I hope this will make PAF more consider about TFX .

after inducting over 200 SU-30s, 60 M2000, and 70 mig-29s, 70 odd vintage F-16s still have them shaking in there boots to which they need Rafale, pathetic people.

And this is called war mongering, utter madness.

Rafale is a real advantage for IAF, there is no doubt about that. Ironically, the more India advances in conventional warfare, more is the threat of nuclear response from Pakistan. I don't know is it heading. God save us all. Meanwhile PAF will remain in love with their eff-16, and undecisive about their next tier-1 platform.

Rafale is a real advantage for IAF, there is no doubt about that. Ironically, the more India advances in conventional warfare, more is the threat of nuclear response from Pakistan. I don't know where is it heading. God save us all. Meanwhile PAF will remain in love with their eff-16, and undecisive about their next tier-1 platform.

 

[raja hindustani]

70 odd vintage F-16s still have them shaking in there boots to which they need Rafale, pathetic people.

Are you dense? Rafales have nothing to do with F16s, They are for replacement of aging mig 27s. By your logic no army, especially USA or CHINA should induct new planes as they already enjoy a numerical and qualitative superiority over other air forces.

 

[thrilainmanila]

Are you dense? Rafales have nothing to do with F16s, They are for replacement of aging mig 27s. By your logic no army, especially USA or CHINA should induct new planes as they already enjoy a numerical and qualitative superiority over other air forces.

the news piece states that the rafale is a response to the F-16s, your brave IAF is still worried about a fighter jet which first flew 42 years ago despite having numerical and technological superiority,

 

[sady]

India has money it can afford goodies. We have NS and zardari we cannot afford such luxuries!

 

[Secret Service]

we must look for new options

 

[war&peace]

That's no rocket science that Rafale is a very potent A/C and now it on PAF to respond come up with something equal better. Let's see how things unfold but I'm sure now leadership is more clear about its options and the apparent excuse they had is gone.