The Haqqani Test: If Pakistan Fails It There Must Be Consequences.

[RazPaK]

Throws both shoes*

 

[Irfan Baloch]

the Bramdagh test

the world police already failed

so shut the hell up

 

[Solomon2]

this is the kind of american arrogance that makes one's blood boil in her veins. i know nothing of the former ambassador's guilt or innocence, but his nation's supreme court has taken up the case now and to say that the court's handling of the case is somehow a "test" and subject to american approval is an insufferable insult to pakistani dignity.

Not just American.

GENEVA: The International Commission of Jurists (ICJ) on Wednesday expressed concern over the “infringement of rights” of former ambassador to the US Husain Haqqani...

“Husain Haqqani faced a vicious media trial following which the Supreme Court of Pakistan [ruling], on a petition, debarred him from travelling abroad, despite the fact that he has not been charged with any crime,” said Sheila Varadan, international legal adviser at the ICJ Asia-Pacific Regional Office. “Husain Haqqani continues to receive threats and has been painted as disloyal to the country. There is, though, no proof of any betrayal of his duties as an ambassador of Pakistan to the United States...We are calling on the Pakistani authorities to respect Husain Haqqani’s right to be presumed innocent and to remove the restriction on his right to leave the country and any other restrictions on his right to freedom of movement,” said Sheila Varadan. “They must also ensure his personal safety at all times and respect his right to a fair and impartial hearing throughout the Inquiry process.”

 

[RazPaK]

Supplies lines should remain closed, and our leaders should go have tea with Ahmadinejad and Kim Jong Un, to let these dogs know there will be consequences for continuing to meddle in our internal affairs.

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Whatever Yank. Where was Geneva for Aafia Siddiqui? I think you Yanks have a lot of explaining to do.

 

[Solomon2]

Supplies lines should remain closed, and our leaders should go have tea with Ahmadinejad and Jong Un, to let these dogs know there will be consequences for continuing to meddle in our internal affairs.

Because, like them, you want to continue exploiting your subject populace and crushing their hopes while suppressing your own fears of removal, yes, a powerful statement indeed!

 

[RazPaK]

Because, like them, you want to continue exploiting your subject populace and crushing their hopes while suppressing your own fears of removal, yes, a powerful statement indeed!

Or to send the message that Western Hegemony will not be tolerated in the region.

 

[Solomon2]

Where was Geneva for Aafia Siddiqui? I think you Yanks have a lot of explaining to do.

Geneva is in Switzerland; the ICJ isn't an American outfit. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

 

[RazPaK]

Geneva is in Switzerland; the ICJ isn't an American outfit. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

It was completely clear, but my point is it's awfully funny when the US needs to put pressure they go to Geneva and make a mountain from a mole hill. These kind of double standards just makes the US look less credible, and will lead to losing important allies. Unless you consider us enemies. Your attack on our border post, surely suggests this.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

very well written article with a lot of insight..

it sure is

nothing left for imagination

a job well done by Mrs Haqqani from US front too while Mr Haqqani languishes in PM house and has all the Govt assets at his disposal.. while he ensures that the "like minded" journalists and Analysts in Pakistan build a good case for him in public. Mrs Haqqani ensures that feature length articles grace the mainstream media to show the first world what GEM of a person this Haqqani is.

Rest assured, he will be a “free” man soon and back to the land of free and brave and resume his age old practices. The courts and judges are being maligned on daily bases and the military stands accused of heavy handedness, Mansoor Ijaz has been bullied and harassed from PM to Interior minister to an ordinary PPP worker already and his chances of coming to Pakistan seems very slim, hence Haqqani has the case in his pocket.

 

[VCheng]

it sure is

nothing left for imagination

a job well done by Mrs Haqqani from US front too while Mr Haqqani languishes in PM house and has all the Govt assets at his disposal.. while he ensures that the "like minded" journalists and Analysts in Pakistan build a good case for him in public. Mrs Haqqani ensures that feature length articles grace the mainstream media to show the first world what GEM of a person this Haqqani is.

Rest assured, he will be a “free” man soon and back to the land of free and brave and resume his age old practices. The courts and judges are being maligned on daily bases and the military stands accused of heavy handedness, Mansoor Ijaz has been bullied and harassed from PM to Interior minister to an ordinary PPP worker already and his chances of coming to Pakistan seems very slim, hence Haqqani has the case in his pocket.

There is much more than that going on behind the scenes too. Let's see what unfolds.

 

[RazPaK]

^

Here comes Vcheng with his crystal ball.



Rehman Malik offering security to Ijaz? Lmao, that's like putting him in the mouth of a crocodile for safety. The ISI says it already has electronic evidence and that Ijaz's testimony is not a necessity. Still the army should offer Ijaz security.

 

[Solomon2]

It was completely clear, but my point is it's awfully funny when the US needs to put pressure they go to Geneva

I am not the USG and neither is the ICJ.

These kind of double standards just makes the US look less credible -

Less credible than Pakistan? That's a very tall order that America hasn't accomplished yet - not that the U.S. has tried to.

As a loyal Pakistani do you consider it your duty to advocate one-sided propaganda or investigate and tell the truth (facts in their context) to your fellow Pakistanis?

 

[RazPaK]

As a loyal Pakistani do you consider it your duty to advocate one-sided propaganda or investigate and tell the truth (facts in their context) to your fellow Pakistanis?

It's obvious the truth will be out when Haqqani is tried in court, but what I don't understand is why the US is trying to cover for their man.

 

[Solomon2]

It's obvious the truth will be out when Haqqani is tried in court, but what I don't understand is why the US is trying to cover for their man.

Now you're talking! Certainly it's unusual for a country to be so solicitous of a former ambassador's health.

The way I see it is this: an ambassador should always represent his government accurately and the moment he fails to do so he should resign or be recalled. As long as he was in D.C. H.H. was the Pakistani government's voice. Although at times he defended them, I suppose it was H.H., first through his books and later directly, who told American officials including the CIA director that their friendly interlocutors in the Pakistani military and ISI were not to be trusted. His presence, then, was taken as assurance by the U.S. that civilians were in control of Pakistan.

However H.H. had to leave and go back home under pressure from the military for what seems to be unsupportable allegations. That means Pakistan is now perceived as a military regime - a junta - with the civilians operating merely as elected and ultimately ignorable functionaries.

Thus, the fate of Hussein Haqqani is taken as an indicator of whether or not Pakistan will continue its slide into anarchy and ultimately tyranny or if it can turn itself around and re-establish civilian supremacy. His demise, politically or otherwise, indicates a coup; his resurrection to office and power, restoration.

 

[RazPaK]

Thus, the fate of Hussein Haqqani is taken as an indicator of whether or not Pakistan will continue its slide into anarchy and ultimately tyranny or if it can turn itself around and re-establish civilian supremacy. His demise, politically or otherwise, indicates a coup; his resurrection to office and power, restoration.

Not very accurate portrayal of what's going on. Since when has the Pakistani Supreme court been under the orders of the military?