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I quite don't understand why some Chinese flag bearer are angry at Turkey , specially since Turkey and China are no where near each other
Chinese over here complain that Uighurs (probably separatist faction) are supported by Turkey while Turks are denying that. Chinese are not warmongers, the Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi called for Peace in Syria. Thats what we Pakistanis are also advocating for. I hope Pakistan and China can reduce the tensions b/w Turkey and Russia as Pakistan has influence over Turkey while China has on Russia.
Superpowers are switching roles. Now China and Russia will spit crap about terrorism to achieve their goals in middle east at the expense of Muslims. But we are responsible of our own decline.
If Chinese lack ambition to become a superpower, we will (deservedly) only become super poor.
This is a sink or swim world. If you do not swim, you sink. Everyone is a shark. Eat or be eaten. I don't know why all the KMT sympathizers and right wings always look back and say "oh things are soo different now". Sharks don't look back. They don't have necks. You know who have necks? Animals who get eaten by sharks. Be the shark.
Why is the J-15 called the Flying Shark and not the Flying Unicorn of Happiness? Exactly.
When Uighurs carrying Turkey passports, through Turkey into Syria, and some XinJiang separatism H.Q in Turkey city ... everything just proved Turkey playing dirty to China ... the solution is China will play it too, u hurt China and China will hurt u badly. Kurds will be the only winner after ISIS rising, it seems all Top5 support that. Chinese is not the blind & not fool, my friend ! China won't let the fire in our home like XinJiang, just lead the fire into their garden, it's flexible diplomacy.Chinese over here complain that Uighurs (probably separatist faction) are supported by Turkey while Turks are denying that. Chinese are not warmongers, the Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi called for Peace in Syria. Thats what we Pakistanis are also advocating for. I hope Pakistan and China can reduce the tensions b/w Turkey and Russia as Pakistan has influence over Turkey while China has on Russia.
Unnecessary, just behind Russia.
When Uighurs carrying Turkey passports, through Turkey into Syria, and some XinJiang separatism H.Q in Turkey city ... everything just proved Turkey playing dirty to China ... the solution is China will play it too, u hurt China and China will hurt u badly. Kurds will be the only winner after ISIS rising, it seems all Top5 support that. Chinese is not the blind & not fool, my friend ! China won't let the fire in our home like XinJiang, just lead the fire into their garden, it's flexible diplomacy.
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My friend, China need playing the flexible diplomacy to solve such problem ... making friends and using friend-relationship to help us is the best way ... China has many Diplomat cards in hand and China is also a big arms export dealer. Turkey isn't the main rival for China, no need waste too much attention to them, i had said Turkey also has their own troubles inside home and near the border. When u can depend on friends to solve ur problem, just support them no need standing in front.Turkey has been supporting the ETIM but China has been powerless to stop it. Turkey does that because it feels China won't do anything.
Without sanctions China cannot hurt Turkey.
China lacks the ruthless streak of a USA, Russia, France, UK, Japan, Turkey. Without that ruthless streak, countries think you are weak and always challenge you. There is no fear factor. This can be seen by even small countries in Asia not afraid to bully China knowing China is too nice to do anything. The no-first-use nuclear policy shows a very timid mentality in China. In 1962, China beat India and retreated instead of taking the land. It missed the moment and now will never get South Tibet back. Even against a weak Japan in the past China didn't finish off the Japanese. Once Japan got strong in the 20th century, it made China pay a very heavy price for its kindness.
Russia didn't even apply that much sanctions on Turkey, it was the intent of their actions that showed the world that Russia cannot be pushed around. 1 Russian death was enough to get a tough response, forget about the effectiveness of the sanctions, its the intent of the response, you mess with Russia, Russia will push back. America who is a ruthless country always challenges China in China's backyard because it knows China won't lift a finger.
Countries can hurt China, but China won't do anything. That's what the world sees. China is too nice and kind hearted to do anything. China lacks the ruthless mentality, that fear factor to intimidate. That intimidating factor is a major deterrence because a USA or Russia will use disproportionate force to punish sending a psychological message of "don't ever f*** with me or you will get a response in no uncertain terms".
Post #18 by @TheTruth nailed it. Sadly its not just the Turks that think Chinese people are weak pushovers and can bully with 0 political cost....its every country that thinks this way of China. His view is the prevailing view of China by others.
Killer instinct is important in a world full of ruthless hyenas.
My poll was an experiment where I wanted to find out the mentality of people.
Does China really need that higher per capita GDP (circa $55,000) ?! I think 1.4billion Chinese over $10,000 per capita GDP, already can make China GDP higher than U.S's ... and RMB & 'Made in China' can produce 95% what we needs.There are two paradigms.
Chinese are pragmatic. A small problem (e.g. Turkish support for Uighur terrorists) deserves a small response.
Americans are more ideological. They'll impose economic sanctions on anyone. The United States imposed sanctions on Cuba for 50 years. The US also imposed sanctions on Iran, Venezuela, and even China.
For example, China cannot purchase American satellite parts.
Looking at the American track record, we can see that it didn't work.
Thus, being rational, economic sanctions should be avoided. If Turkey had shot down a Chinese jet then sanctions would be appropriate. However, Russia can take care of itself. Let the Russians impose sanctions on Turkey.
Furthermore, the Russians have refrained from suspending the South Stream joint project between Turkey and Russia. If the Russians aren't willing to go all the way, why would you do their work for them?
Finally, Russia has not asked China for sanctions help.
In conclusion, never get into the middle of other people's fights. China's primary goal remains national development. After China becomes as wealthy as Americans (circa $55,000 per capita GDP), we can talk about behaving like Americans at that time. Not now.
Turkey is part of China's railway transport network to Europe. Russia is not.
For 25 years, the Russians have always said "nyet" to China's proposals to build a railway transport route to Europe.
Instead, China has now formed a railway transport system to Europe via Central Asian states and Turkey.
In my opinion, Turkey is arguably a better business partner for China than Russia. The Russians have said "nyet" too many times. China should keep working with other countries, including Turkey.
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Agenda.ge - Cargo from China to Europe will pass through Georgia, bypassing Russia
"Turkey and China together with Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan and Georgia have formed a syndicate to transport cargo from China to Europe, bypassing Russia.
Representatives of large transport logistic operators from Turkey, Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan, Georgia and Lithuania signed a deal cementing the multi-national partnership on November 28, 2015 in Turkey, Istanbul."