The Great Game Changer: Belt and Road Intiative (BRI; OBOR)
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Russia and US can form another eight nation alliance to rule CN again.
Dont try to drag Russia to your low level.
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Russia is a dying dog waiting to be put down.
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Hummmmmmmmmm ... i never saw some 'dying dog' has over 6,000x nukes.
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the point is, all the reasons OP stated here is the most potent reasons to be a cause for future Sino-Russian conflicts
abundant natural resources, checks
more land area for further industrialization and support for sustenance basic commodities (timber, foods), checks
the declining power and influence of Russia among CIS member, checks
@Nihonjin1051 @gambit @jhungary @Shotgunner51
abundant natural resources, checks
more land area for further industrialization and support for sustenance basic commodities (timber, foods), checks
the declining power and influence of Russia among CIS member, checks
@Nihonjin1051 @gambit @jhungary @Shotgunner51
The population of Russian Federation : 144 million
The population of the People's Republic of China: 1.4 Billion
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not to mention, they are neighbor who shared land border
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Without Russian/Soviet military support to the developing world, many countries would already be Western colonies.
The weapons of the developing world are all Russian. Even indigenous weapons are based on Russian technology.
It's easy to laugh at Russia but without them, colonisation would still going on by the West.
Only those brainwashed by the West will hate Russia.
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I would say stay neutral upfront, stay rational, and ruthlessly pragmatic. Even a distant trace of ideology is dangerous as it might blind vision.
China still needs time and thus, so long as its most vital interests are not challenged (SCS build-up, Taiwan, borders etc), it does not need to adopt radical punitive measures.
Russia's action is out of basic national interests, as well. I do not see them being emotional. This is the partner we want. We are not seeking "ideological" partners based on abstract, emotional concepts. That's probably why China-Russia relations are going so well. For Putin is a cold-blooded rationalist.
However, this does not mean China would not have had geopolitical position. And China made it clear by vetoing (even when it did not have to because Russia was known to use veto anyways) Syrian resolution at the UNSC. That's grand politics at the highest level of international governance.
Instead of getting involved in petty economic fights with trade partners, China needs to further economize its foreign policy and build-up absolute national power at home. This involves a better protection of the borders, better law enforcement, and political will to ruthlessly eliminate the few marginal terrorist/separatist groups.
China will certainly keep working with Russia at the highest possible terms on grand international issues, but this does not require to be involved in every petty turf wars, Syrian war being one of them. There is no reason, logical explanation to get involved at such basic level.
So, keep and reinforce strategic partnership with Russia on major global governance-related, and bilateral military issues, but stay away from regional turf wars so long as it does not concern China in an existential way.
On this, I agree 100% with @Martian2 .
China still needs time and thus, so long as its most vital interests are not challenged (SCS build-up, Taiwan, borders etc), it does not need to adopt radical punitive measures.
Russia's action is out of basic national interests, as well. I do not see them being emotional. This is the partner we want. We are not seeking "ideological" partners based on abstract, emotional concepts. That's probably why China-Russia relations are going so well. For Putin is a cold-blooded rationalist.
However, this does not mean China would not have had geopolitical position. And China made it clear by vetoing (even when it did not have to because Russia was known to use veto anyways) Syrian resolution at the UNSC. That's grand politics at the highest level of international governance.
Instead of getting involved in petty economic fights with trade partners, China needs to further economize its foreign policy and build-up absolute national power at home. This involves a better protection of the borders, better law enforcement, and political will to ruthlessly eliminate the few marginal terrorist/separatist groups.
China will certainly keep working with Russia at the highest possible terms on grand international issues, but this does not require to be involved in every petty turf wars, Syrian war being one of them. There is no reason, logical explanation to get involved at such basic level.
So, keep and reinforce strategic partnership with Russia on major global governance-related, and bilateral military issues, but stay away from regional turf wars so long as it does not concern China in an existential way.
On this, I agree 100% with @Martian2 .
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If you think nuke is a stick to measure a country power you going to be very disapointed.
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Thats the reason why Russia bro needs VN. VN can send more pple to Russia to increase Russia ppltion...but Mr.Putin need to protect VN ethnic well.
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Is Russia and China combined a superpower?
In the same way that the EU -- in its beginning -- was considered to be a 'superpower', militarily and economically. We know how that idea turned out, do we ? EU members are more ideologically and politically aligned than Russia and China have in common with each other, and yet the EU is under greater political stress today than before.
Sorry...But Is Russia and China combined a superpower? Nyet and 不.
In the same way that the EU -- in its beginning -- was considered to be a 'superpower', militarily and economically. We know how that idea turned out, do we ? EU members are more ideologically and politically aligned than Russia and China have in common with each other, and yet the EU is under greater political stress today than before.
Sorry...But Is Russia and China combined a superpower? Nyet and 不.
There are many eyes, who vie for the piece of pie.
We can solve that ; Vietnam can join the Japanese Empire. You will never go hungry. Again.
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Wow, since when JP also has Ah Q ?? JP is just US chess now, but dream too much,bro.There are many eyes, who vie for the piece of pie.
We can solve that ; Vietnam can join the Japanese Empire. You will never go hungry. Again.
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