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What honesty ??

Chinese still like to believe their lunar mission was their own effort .

While it is clear that mission was a joint effort with ESA .

Your launch vehicles were designed with help of USA .

Your manned mission in which the crew capsule and even space suits were direct soviet copies with technology provided by Russian .

Honesty my @ss .
全球化的今天,大部分高科技项目都有国际合作的可能
可是
“你们的运载火箭是美国人帮助设计?”
我一定是醉了
The globalization of today, most high-tech projects have internationalcooperation is possible

But
Your launch vehicles were designed with help of USA ?
I must have been drunk.
 
Indians have the access to foreign technologies. Their more powerful rocket engines are given immense help from the Russians. Also India would not have reached the Mars orbit without the assistance from NASA.

European space agency, Japan and S Korea etc also have these advantages over us.

We are very much a lone soul in space but solidly progressing on our own path - building a space industry literally most by ourselves, confidently.

What a proud moment to cheer for :super::laughcry::agree::cheesy::coffee::china:



Stop drinking the koolaid. Russia has assisted China significantly with its Space programs. Don;t kid yourself....
 
Stop drinking the koolaid. Russia has assisted China significantly with its Space programs. Don;t kid yourself....

Let the Russians speak
We credit the Russians / Soviet Union when due without hesitation
If your space program, despite relying on great assistance from other countries, is behind, way behind us then accept this.
There is no way that you can gift our accomplished space achievements to other country (-ies) ;) :china:
 
Let the Russians speak
We credit the Russians / Soviet Union when due without hesitation
If your space program, despite relying on great assistance from other countries, is behind, way behind us then accept this.
There is no way that you can gift our accomplished space achievements to other country (-ies) ;) :china:



What do you think other countries have given India? Scraps? We had embargoes, tech denials, MTCR, etc. Russia cooperated with China's missile on a far different scale than India.


We are behind for a number of reason, lack of intelligence is not one!
 
What do you think other countries have given India? Scraps? We had embargoes, tech denials, MTCR, etc. Russia cooperated with China's missile on a far different scale than India.

We are behind for a number of reason, lack of intelligence is not one!
ttt

I dont think so.
As I have repeated time and again we are thankful for Russia / Soviet Union's help but they are viewing us as competitors since our split while India maintains a much more cordial relationship with them (Russia) in terms of tech exchange like your recent co-operaions in development of many military hardwares etc; and also with America etc
You may be having some sources of intellectual persons who are better than third or 4th tier countries but the pool is far less than the likes of China, Russia, Europe, Japan, Canada, Australia and America :dirol::coffee::cheesy::china:
 
The main reason China is ahead is due to really focused communist political will.
This is shown in the no matter what, get technology even by spying and getting Russian scientists, high budget and human resources and focus on programs of national importance.

Our focus had been diluted and the coalition governments and their priorities have been in populist policies.
The weak kneed diplomatic relations with other nations flowed from it.
Even in space program the funding especially for 2nd launchpad and gslv program has been inconsistent. That will change now.

Please don't think we don't have brains etc, the reason why Asian people have excelled the world over due to the quest for knowledge and academic excellence, that is a fact.
 
Old report
We did not deny some help from our Russian/Soviet Union friends esp in the early stage of our development
We are the only major country which are banned of access of high end space/military etc tech in the world
Let's not deny this fact and move on. :dirol::china:

But Chinese were bragging in first few pages how chinese single handedly developed their space program ... :lol:

This news report talks about assistance from US in your long march rocket after 90s ...... not in any early stage .

You are not the only country to faced bans ...... India , Iran , ....... the list goes on .

Let the Russians speak
We credit the Russians / Soviet Union when due without hesitation
If your space program, despite relying on great assistance from other countries, is behind, way behind us then accept this.
There is no way that you can gift our accomplished space achievements to other country (-ies) ;) :china:

If you look at the data our space program actually got less assistance than even yours ..... :cheesy::cheesy:

You got help from the likes of Soviet/Russians , US .... While ours were blacklisted by US in 90s .

We are not way behind you , just a little behind you ..... thanks to the endless assistance provided to you by others .
 
ULAN BATOR, Oct. 30 -- Chinese, Russian and Mongolian deputy foreign ministers pledged on Thursday to boost trilateral cooperation and exchanges of views to maintain the strategic relations among the three countries at a high level.

Delegates led by Mongolian Deputy Foreign Minister D. Gankhuyag, his Chinese counterpart Cheng Guoping and his Russian counterpart I. V. Morgulov participated in the first deputy foreign minister-level consultative meeting of Mongolia, Russian Federation and People's Republic of China, held in Mongolian capital city of Ulan Bator.

During the meeting, the deputy ministers exchanged views on boosting bilateral relations and trilateral cooperation as well as on organizing the next high-level meeting among the three heads of state.

The three parties agreed to develop and boost trilateral cooperation and exchanges of views in various sectors including trade, economy, transportation, infrastructure construction, mining, tourism, humanitarian work and environmental protection.

Also, the deputy ministers expressed their commitment to rendering supports on the issues concerning each other's sovereignty, security and fundamental interests.
To prepare for the next high-level meeting of the three presidents, scheduled in July, 2015, the second deputy foreign minister-level consultative meeting will be held in next February in Beijing, China, according to the three sides.

China-Russia-Mongolia dialogue eyes closer trilateral relations - People's Daily Online
 
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ttt

I dont think so.
As I have repeated time and again we are thankful for Russia / Soviet Union's help but they are viewing us as competitors since our split while India maintains a much more cordial relationship with them (Russia) in terms of tech exchange like your recent co-operaions in development of many military hardwares etc; and also with America etc
You may be having some sources of intellectual persons who are better than third or 4th tier countries but the pool is far less than the likes of China, Russia, Europe, Japan, Canada, Australia and America :dirol::coffee::cheesy::china:

IF it help you sleep at night and soothe your ego , so be it .... :enjoy:
 
Yes, Communist china is single, gets technologies thru a huge network of back channel, espionage, hacking, stealing, reverse engineer, copies, No IPR, stc
 
The main reason China is ahead is due to really focused communist political will.
This is shown in the no matter what, get technology even by spying and getting Russian scientists, high budget and human resources and focus on programs of national importance.

Our focus had been diluted and the coalition governments and their priorities have been in populist policies.
The weak kneed diplomatic relations with other nations flowed from it.
Even in space program the funding especially for 2nd launchpad and gslv program has been inconsistent. That will change now.

Please don't think we don't have brains etc, the reason why Asian people have excelled the world over due to the quest for knowledge and academic excellence, that is a fact.
But Chinese were bragging in first few pages how chinese single handedly developed their space program ... :lol:

This news report talks about assistance from US in your long march rocket after 90s ...... not in any early stage .

You are not the only country to faced bans ...... India , Iran , ....... the list goes on .



If you look at the data our space program actually got less assistance than even yours ..... :cheesy::cheesy:

You got help from the likes of Soviet/Russians , US .... While ours were blacklisted by US in 90s .

We are not way behind you , just a little behind you ..... thanks to the endless assistance provided to you by others .

China bragging?:woot: Anything but nearing the enormity of this grand master :haha::

Just to remind you with these two little quotes out of the "Indian Superpower this or that" saga:

India to become superpower by 2012: Kalam - Economic Times
Manmohan keen on making Mumbai a Shanghai - Financial Express

7 years ago India braggers boasted:
India will send astronaut into space by 2015: ISRO chief - The Times of India
Yesterday's announcement - where is the Indian man in space?
India To Launch Unmanned Crew Module In December

This is a fact tha NASA and ESA are either banning or restrictive in their space tech exchane with us. This has been put into law of USA. Is ISRO having these treatment?

Your slighly challenging accomplishment is the recent Mars Mission
In case you need a reminder and let me throw you some embarrassing questions amidst your constrasing vain accusations on China and grandiose bragging for India:
Does India have:
1. a functiong satellite navigation system covering Asia and later the world
2. a moon lander
3. the ability to shoot down a defunct satellite in space
4. a space walk
5. a better rocket launching success % than China
6. the ability to do manned and unmanned rendezvous and docking of 2 spacecraft in orbit
7. the ability to return and to land manned and unmanned spacecraft on Earth
8, a rocket with bigger payload than China's CZ-3 series (and a CZ-5 soon)
9. a space lab which will be developed into a space station by 2020
10. any Indian living in space in your own life-supporting capsule
11. a spacecraft that can fly further than our Chang'e 2 in space
12, a complete photo mapping of the moon
If you want more embarrassments be my guest. :dirol::nono::china:
 
This is a fact tha NASA and ESA are either banning or restrictive in their space tech exchane with us. This has been put into law of USA. Is ISRO having these treatment?

How many times I will have to bust your lies ..... :lol: .... Don't you have some shame .

Help from USA ..... Commission to Assess the Ballistic Missile Threat to the United States

Help from ESA ..... Helping China to the Moon / Operations / Our Activities / ESA

Your slighly challenging accomplishment is the recent Mars Mission
In case you need a reminder and let me throw you some embarrassing questions amidst your constrasing vain accusations on China and grandiose bragging for India:
Does India have:
1. a functiong satellite navigation system covering Asia and later the world
2. a moon lander
3. the ability to shoot down a defunct satellite in space
4. a space walk
5. a better rocket launching success % than China
6. the ability to do manned and unmanned rendezvous and docking of 2 spacecraft in orbit
7. the ability to return and to land manned and unmanned spacecraft on Earth
8, a rocket with bigger payload than China's CZ-3 series (and a CZ-5 soon)
9. a space lab which will be developed into a space station by 2020
10. any Indian living in space in your own life-supporting capsule
11. a spacecraft that can fly further than our Chang'e 2 in space
12, a complete photo mapping of the moon
If you want more embarrassments be my guest. :dirol::nono::china:

Embarrassment ..... my foot .

Moon mission with help of ESA , Man missed with help of Russia , Rocket success rate because US helped .

Links provided above will attest to what I wrote .

What is chinese in any of these ...... except the boasting ..... :lol:
 
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