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The Fight against PKK Terrorism

I think some of our friends should open a map and see which region we're in. All the things you say would've been nice if we had neighbours like France, Germany and Italy. But unfortunately reality is far from it. You need some "backwards" ideas to survive in this shithole.
 
Even PKK gave up from the idea of an independent Kurdistan within Turkey some time ago. So I don't think most of them would want independence from Turkey but rather autonomy.

They have broad ambitions even if within Turkey the threat is down anything can happen given their empowered role in Syria and Iraq that can greatly impact Turkey. They have free standing armies and a Congress in Erbil, it's a broad movement.
 
Big part of Kurdish people have no such an interest, almost %90 of them want to live together with us. This is a well known zionist habit that they try their best to make people enemies against each other, you are a good example of it.
Seems like your aswer to everything is zionist, what a simple mind...

This country is Türkiye, its a Secular Democratic Republic, you have a problem with this?
 
Seems like your aswer to everything is zionist, what a simple mind...

This country is Türkiye, its a Secular Democratic Republic, you have a problem with this?

Right, almost every evilness on the earth originates from Zionist families or from British government.

Secularims from your perspective : F...ck all the religions.

Secularims from our perspective : Respect all the religions.

Democracy from your perspective : Allow all people to behave whatever they want.

Democracy from our perspective : Allow all people as long as they dont harm each other and social order.
 
They have broad ambitions even if within Turkey the threat is down anything can happen given their empowered role in Syria and Iraq that can greatly impact Turkey. They have free standing armies and a Congress in Erbil, it's a broad movement.

They can barely deal with ISIS despite the Western air support. There also seem to be several opposing parties within the movement whom would backstab each other if given a chance. It is a broad movement indeed but they can't be a real threat to Turkey if they cannot survive without Turkey.
 
Right, almost every evilness on the earth originates from Zionist families or from British government.

Secularims from your perspective : F...ck all the religions.

Secularims from our perspective : Respect all the religions.

Democracy from your perspective : Allow all people to behave whatever they want.

Democracy from our perspective : Allow all people as long as they dont harm each other and social order.
Im a sunni muslim myself, im immune against your "anti religion" bla bla.
Learn the definition of democracy, and stop talking about freedom after what you said to me in Turkish yesterday, hypocrite, i know exactly you give a damn about democracy and freedom.
 
Im a sunni muslim myself, im immune against your "anti religion" bla bla.
Learn the definition of democracy, and stop talking about freedom after what you said to me in Turkish yesterday, hypocrite, i know exactly you give a damn about democracy and freedom.

As I said, these concepts does not mean the same things for us. Democracy is not a concept that belong to us. We Muslims use "equality and justice" concept. Democracy is mostly used for the personal interests. So while your democracy allows some things to be done, our equality and justice concept opposes them. Despite your "Democracy" includes these two concept "equality and justice". All the countries who defends "Democracy" violates their own concept in various ways. Its just a political tool.
 
As I said, these concepts does not mean the same things for us. Democracy is not a concept that belong to us. We Muslims use "equality and justice" concept. Democracy is mostly used for the personal interests. So while your democracy allows some things to be done, our equality and justice concept opposes them. Despite your "Democracy" includes these two concept "equality and justice". All the countries who defends "Democracy" violates their own concept in various ways. Its just a political tool.
Yeah ok, take care...
 
Right, almost every evilness on the earth originates from Zionist families or from British government.

Secularims from your perspective : F...ck all the religions.

Secularims from our perspective : Respect all the religions.

Democracy from your perspective : Allow all people to behave whatever they want.

Democracy from our perspective : Allow all people as long as they dont harm each other and social order.

Who is this "your" and "our" you are talking about?
 
The government supporters and haters.

So are you saying that the understanding of secularism of those who oppose the government is basically "**** all the religions" and their understanding of democracy is similar to anarchy, while AKPians are the beacon of democracy and a shining example tolerance?
 
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