The Fight against PKK Terrorism

[ELTurco]

What flag are you talking about? Those loyal Kurds were orphans whose parents got killed by genocidal Turks. For example the leader of CHP, he is brainwashed now. It's in the genese just like with Janissaries. That flag have NO CONNECTION WITH KURDS. Those are just some retards with complex. There are many of them. We don't even consider them Kurds anymore. And it's difficult with going to villages forcing them to learn the disgusting langauge and say they are turks. They were forced. U belong to Turkmenistan, we to Kurdistan.

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How can you view this matter as oppression?

are you so brainwashed they are just learning these children to read and write.

otherwise no doubt they would grow up remain illiterate it isnt bad thing to learn to read and write even if not your own language.

You have to thank Turks for giving the possibility to get an actual education but all you do is being ungratefulness.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Those who think PKK will abandon arms without democracy are ‘dreamers,’ says senior member

Cemil Bayık, the co-chair of the Kurdistan Communities Union (KCK), argued that the Kurds needed 'defense forces' to fight against radical Islamists in Syria. DHa Photo

Those who think the outlawed Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) will withdraw from armed struggle before the Kurdish people live in a “free and democratic” society are “dreamers,” a founding member of the organization has said, amid a fresh push from the government to revive the stalled peace process.

Cemil Bayık, who is also the co-chair of the Kurdistan Communities Union (KCK), the PKK’s urban wing, also accused Turkey of supporting Islamist groups fighting with Kurds in Rojava, referring to the Kurdish-populated parts of northern Syria.

“Turkey has not only adopted an anti-democratic policy within the country. It also supports despots and gangs abroad. Instead of helping democratic forces in Rojava and Kobane, Turkey lends its supports to armed gangs [fighting against] the Kurds … This is why the Kurds will keep their legitimate defense force, and even look to reinforce it. Therefore, nobody should expect the PKK to lay down their arms before the Kurds live in a free and democratic society,” Bayık said in an interview with Kurdish daily Azadiya Welat on July 10.

Touching on the latest Islamic State (IS) militants’ offensive in Kobane, Bayık said Kurds in Syria had no alternative but to fight and defend themselves.

“Those who recently said the time for armed struggle has passed and the time to lay down arms has come should take a good look at the Middle East and Rojava. They have to see that without a legitimate defense force, the Kurds would drown in a spoon full of water,” he said.

His statement comes as a new and relatively more ambitious government bill is debated at Parliament.

The law would allow the government to take all of the necessary measures it needs to move the talks forward, including steps to grant amnesty to Kurdish militants who lay down arms, as well as legal immunity to officials involved in talks with the PKK.

Those who think PKK will abandon arms without democracy are ‘dreamers,’ says senior member - LOCAL

why dont u guys just annihilate them completely.....Turkey is a way way too superior power for these rag tag kids to have any chance of standing or challenging the might of turkey..........

Just eradicate them and close this 40 years old chapter. Also make yr intel setup stronger and more efficient in order to control or neutralize the aftermath reaction from their annihilation. I guess ISI guys can help in this........

 

[Hakan]

Turkey sends reinforcements to Syrian border in fight with PKK

ANKARA — Turkey has expanded operations to the Kurdish enclave in neighboring Syria.

The Turkish Army has deployed reinforcements along the border of the Kurdish enclave in northern Syria.

Officials said the reinforcements were meant to stop the flow of Kurdish fighters from Iraq to reach the Syrian enclave.

“The Kurdish Workers Party has sent in hundreds of fighters to help the Syrian Kurds battle the Islamists,” an official said.

On July 22, the Army reported a battle with Kurdish militias in the southeastern Turkish province of Sanliurfa. The Army said three soldiers and six Kurdish fighters, including those from the Kurdish Workers Party, or PKK, were killed on July 21 as the latter sought to cross the Syrian border.

“At least six members of People’s Defense Forces and PKK were considered to be killed during the clashes,” the army said.

The government of Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has opposed the Kurdish enclave along the Syrian border with Turkey. Officials said the government as well as military feared that the enclave could become another insurgency haven for the PKK war.

At the same time, Turkey has been working closely with the Kurdish autonomous region in northern Iraq. Ankara has been importing crude oil and fuel from the Kurdish Regional Government in a move that has angered Baghdad.

Turkey has been constructing a barrier to prevent infiltration to and from Syria. In 2013, the army reported the capture of 2,000 people, 25 percent of them foreigners, charged with trying to cross the 510-kilometer border with Syria.

Turkey sends reinforcements to Syrian border in fight with Kurdish fighters - World Tribune | World Tribune

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Anyways tell me who is arming and motivating this PKK kids in all these years?

 

[-SINAN-]

Yeah right that they will abandon their weapons - they have just acquired even more weaponry due to the crisis in Syria.


And ladies and gentlemen, here it comes: the terrorists now possesses SA-8 Gecko/9K33 Osa


Summary of the article and the mentioned events in English:

1. On 27th May 2014, two Sikorsky S-70 and an escorting AH-1W Super Cobra was locked-on by a unknown radar.
2. The helicopters conducted an escape-maneuver in order to free themselves from the radar-lock.
3. The helicopters then returned to the zone where they got locked-on to see whether if the threat persisted. Personally, I don't understand why they would do so, risking their lives just to figure out what it was that locked on them. Pure stupidity, if you ask me.
4. Once again they got locked-on and what I believe was the on-board Radar Warning Receiver (RWR) once again warned the flight-crew and classified the threat as originating from a SA-8...

Intelligence tells that the PKK-terrorists was given the SA-8 from the Syrian army and then smuggled it into Turkey. The lock-on:s might been the terrorists testing the system and/or intentionally harassing the helicopters to portray their newly acquired strength. It's believed that they have acquired a lot of armaments from Syria.​

Yani oha diyorum....

PKK captured and "smuggled" this

from the border and stationed it in the Tunceli...

I don't think this is true.

 

[Hakan]

Yani oha diyorum....

PKK captured and "smuggled" this

from the border and stationed it in the Tunceli...

I don't think this is true.

Its either completely b.s or the journalist who wrote the article made a mistake and wrote sa 8 instead of sa 18 (igla), or the information relased from the military was incorrect, or they actually smugled the entire vehicle into turkey.

I believe that the author made a mistake.

 

[-SINAN-]

Its either completely b.s or the journalist who wrote the article made a mistake and wrote sa 8 instead of sa 18 (igla), or the information relased from the military was incorrect, or they actually smugled the entire vehicle into turkey.

I believe that the author made a mistake.

-I don't think he is confused. Igla has a heat seaker missile... but in his article he says "radar-lock", Igla has no such capabilities.
- They can't smuggle the vehicle mate, how are they going to bring that vehicle from border to Tunceli, unseen... it is impossible..
- There are no info realesed from the military, this news is a product of a journalist named "Ahmet TAKAN"... his source is..."reliable sources"

Elektrik faturalarını ödetmeyen PKK, TSK helikopterine füze kilitledi - Ahmet TAKAN

Now, i say this is BS, fabricated news.

 

[Random111]

AA missile? Yes.
Whole vehicle? No.

Dem T129's are gonna get tested heavily. When is the next batch getting delivered?

 

[Al-Kurdi]

why dont u guys just annihilate them completely.....Turkey is a way way too superior power for these rag tag kids to have any chance of standing or challenging the might of turkey..........

Just eradicate them and close this 40 years old chapter. Also make yr intel setup stronger and more efficient in order to control or neutralize the aftermath reaction from their annihilation. I guess ISI guys can help in this........

They have tried for over 30 years without success. With all the weaponry US poured into Turkey since the first days of the conflict Turkey haven't done a thing except killing innocent Kurds, destroying thousands of Kurdish villages, killing people for celebrating Newroz for even mentioning the name Kurd.

In fact PKK has never been this powerful if u include all the umbrellas such as YPG/PYD/PJAK etc. If PKK wants to they can set up a check point all the way up in Dersim. But they don't want to give Turkey an excuse to attack the Kurdish regions in Syria so they won't provoke.

 

[-SINAN-]

If PKK wants to they can set up a check point all the way up in Dersim.

What check points ?... you mean PKK sympatizans blocking the road.

Or they would control the territory ?

 

[Al-Kurdi]

What check points ?... you mean PKK sympatizans blocking the road.

Or they would control the territory ?

I mean Kurds in general supporting PKK setting up checkpoints to control who passes through the roads, such as army men that are off duty whom they kidnap to use as a pressure card to prevent more bases being built in Kurdish areas during PEACE talks.

Taking control of territory is something they could easily do but would strategically be retarded unless it's a total war. PKK was fighting a guerilla war.

 

[-SINAN-]

I mean Kurds in general supporting PKK setting up checkpoints to control who passes through the roads, such as army men that are off duty whom they kidnap to use as a pressure card to prevent more bases being built in Kurdish areas during PEACE talks.

Taking control of territory is something they could easily do but would strategically be retarded unless it's a total war. PKK was fighting a guerilla war.

Taking control of Turkish land is impossible any PKK knows it. They tried that suicide mission in 2012 in Şemdinli town.... they utterly get destroyed.

Also PKK who are setting up roadblocks time to time, flees when they are conforted by military. They virtually can't control nothing, only can distract like a mosquito nothing else.

 

[Baykuş]

With all the weaponry US poured into Turkey since the first days of the conflict Turkey haven't done a thing except killing innocent Kurds, destroying thousands of Kurdish villages, killing people for celebrating Newroz for even mentioning the name Kurd.

False.

In fact PKK has never been this busy if u include all the umbrellas such as YPG/PYD/PJAK etc. If PKK wants to they can set up a check point all the way up in Dersim. But they don't want to give Turkey an excuse to nullify the cease-fire, which as known tends to result in many dead terrorists.

Fixed it for you.

 

[Al-Kurdi]

I hope the entire fucking peace process ends so that the war will resume. And this is far from the only incident.

 

[Bismarck]

I mean Kurds in general supporting PKK setting up checkpoints to control who passes through the roads, such as army men that are off duty whom they kidnap to use as a pressure card to prevent more bases being built in Kurdish areas during PEACE talks.

Taking control of territory is something they could easily do but would strategically be retarded unless it's a total war. PKK was fighting a guerilla war.

I don't know the hole story and all facts, but if Kurds in general really would support PKK, turkey would have much more trouble in town. More than 17 mio Kurds live in Turkey. You know what I mean. Of course, PKK wants the people to believe such things like this.