The Covert Origin of ISIS.............Enjoy

[Steve781]

How do you compare Taliban with Kashmiri fighters with FSA with ISIS ?? Please elaborate

You first!
I'm against supporting any of these groups but the FSA and ISIS are different. If they weren't they wouldn't fight each other constantly.

 

[Mujahid Memon]

They know they would lose.

They will lose in all circumstances, they have to do suicide attacks. So the question is why they prefer losing with killing Muslims over losing with killing jews ???

 

[Steve781]

They will lose in all circumstances, they have to do suicide attacks. So the question is why they prefer losing with killing Muslims over losing with killing jews ???

They're winning in Syria as we speak although losing in Iraq.

 

[Mujahid Memon]

You first!
I'm against supporting any of these groups but the FSA and ISIS are different. If they weren't they wouldn't fight each other constantly.

so are Taliban and Kashmiri fighters!

 

[rockstar08]

I didn't say the US wasn't involved. I said they accounted for a small portion of the arms provided to the FSA as KSA and Qatar provided most of them. This is absolutely correct.

US was involved , and involved with both hands ... looking at the evidence that US was involved in Providing funds to Afghan Taliban in 80's ... than they turn against them they become terrorist , see what happen in Iraq , who supported Saddam against Iran war ?? and when saddam becomes a mad dog , he must be eliminated .. there were no WMD's in Iraq and US destroy the whole country .. and than what ? leave it alone in the hands of extremist ... this is what US did with Afghanistan , so stop thinking the US is run by saints ..

 

[Mujahid Memon]

They're winning in Syria as we speak although losing in Iraq.

No they're not winning. My question was why they not prefer killing some jews on Israel-Syria border before being totally wiped out by coalition bombings ???

 

[Steve781]

US was involved , and involved with both hands ... looking at the evidence that US was involved in Providing funds to Afghan Taliban in 80's ... than they turn against them they become terrorist , see what happen in Iraq , who supported Saddam against Iran war ?? and when saddam becomes a mad dog , he must be eliminated .. there were no WMD's in Iraq and US destroy the whole country .. and than what ? leave it alone in the hands of extremist ... this is what US did with Afghanistan , so stop thinking the US is run by saints ..

What you're talking about has nothing to do with Syria. Show me how the US was the main provider of arms to rebels in Syria? You can't.
The US stopped supporting the Taliban after 1990 while Pakistan continued until a few months ago.

 

[rockstar08]

What you're talking about has nothing to do with Syria. Show me how the US was the main provider of arms to rebels in Syria? You can't.
The US stopped supporting the Taliban after 1990 while Pakistan continued until a few months ago.

its you who failed to watch the video which provide several proves ...but again i guess you dont want to understand ..i am out of here for now ,, keep enjoying ..

 

[Steve781]

so are Taliban and Kashmiri fighters!

I don't know enough about Kashmir to say whose right or wrong but it's clear some of the groups Pakistan has worked with have been radical jihadists.

its you who failed to watch the video which provide several proves ...but again i guess you dont want to understand ..i am out of here for now ,, keep enjoying ..

In other words you have no answer.

 

[ozzy22]

I didn't say the US wasn't involved. I said they accounted for a small portion of the arms provided to the FSA as KSA and Qatar provided most of them. This is absolutely correct.

With the full backing of the United States government Without I doubt these countries would have been so eager to help the rebels and definitely not without the green light from the US

 

[Steve781]

With the full backing of the United States government Without I doubt these countries would have been so eager to help the rebels and definitely not without the green light from the US

Saudi Arabia is one of the most powerful countries in the world. They are far from "American puppets" as they are frequently accused. They have their own unique foreign policy with unique interests.

 

[ozzy22]

Saudi Arabia is one of the most powerful countries in the world. They are far from "American puppets" as they are frequently accused. They have their own unique foreign policy with unique interests.

Even if that is the case your acting like America played no role in helping the rebels. When we all know the arming of these rebels was with the full backing/encouragement by the United States. These countries would have not supported the rebels if America was against it.

CIA begins weapons delivery to Syrian rebels - The Washington Post

REPORT: The US Is Openly Sending Heavy Weapons From Libya To Syrian Rebels - Business Insider

U.S. has secretly provided arms training to Syria rebels since 2012 - Los Angeles Times

 

[Steve781]

Even if that is the case your acting like America played no role in helping the rebels. When we all know the arming of these rebels was with the full backing/encouragement by the United States. These countries would have not supported the rebels if America was against it.

CIA begins weapons delivery to Syrian rebels - The Washington Post

REPORT: The US Is Openly Sending Heavy Weapons From Libya To Syrian Rebels - Business Insider

U.S. has secretly provided arms training to Syria rebels since 2012 - Los Angeles Times

I never said America wasn't involved. They were involved in the same way as Britain is frequently involved in American wars, as a partner in an operation in which they didn't take the lead in and in which their role wasn't decisive.
To blame it all on the US while ignoring regional countries, as posters on this forum constantly do, is being willfully ignorant.

 

[ozzy22]

I never said America wasn't involved. They were involved in the same way as Britain is frequently involved in American wars, as a partner in an operation in which they didn't take the lead in and in which their role wasn't decisive.
To blame it all on the US while ignoring regional countries, as posters on this forum constantly do, is being willfully ignorant.

My main problem is some people only blaming Turkey and Qatar and acting like the West played no part in it and let’s not forget the US is the super power here and which has the last and most important say.