ok on half a coffee i'm able to provide a complete list of the evidence which is easier than coming to the evidence via debate (as i had to do in the past).
(1) : after ww2, the international community decided to give the Israelis their homeland that is in the Talmud.
(2) : the majority of muslims, especially the nonviolent (thus truly reasonable) muslims, recognize that The Prophets are *shared* between the Jewish, Christian and Islamic faiths.
(3) : given (2), (1) becomes legal in all perspectives - political, religious, spiritual.
(4) : near the end of the 1970s, some muslim leaders in charge of the price of oil decided to use the price of oil as a blackmail weapon to force "the west" to get rid of Israel on the map. this blackmail however resulted in a situation where "the west" was faced with a real potential inability to even supply our supermarkets with food, let alone facilitate normal travel by motorized vehicle in our regions. In case you dont realize it, this is like putting a knife to all our throats and would've made "the west" slaves to the whims of stupid muslim leaders.
(5) : since (4), "the west" has been steadily forced to interfere in various ways with the muslim leaderships. something i admit has not been without serious mistakes. but please realise, it's impossible for "the west" to permanently fully control over a billion muslims and their many different leaderships.
wow, that evidence is a lot shorter in it's condensed form than i ever thought possible.
i hope you're convinced by this set of evidence. if you're not, well, be prepared for more ego damage.
