THE ARAB'S COWARDICE CREATED AND MADE ISRAEL A BUTCHER OF SERVICE

[somebozo]

 

[HamWatan]

If you're still oblivious as to what happened in Syria then please consign yourself back to under whatever rock you've spent the last 7 years under. Not only was Syria one of the least authoritarian governments in its region, but the government itself even passed a constitutional amendment back in 2012 - after the terrorist war against the country had started in March of 2011 - relieving the Arab Socialist Baath Party of its right to remain ruling party, whoever its head would be.

The most ridiculous - and we had a lot of ridiculous lies - of the propaganda for intervention in Syria was that an Alawite president married into Sunnis, with a Sunni majority national armed force and Sunni majority parliament as well as state police was somehow a sectarian non Sunni 'regime'.

Syria fought against immense odds and people like yourself, from Pakistan, who still looks up to those that would see it destroyed, attempt to degrade that. Pathetic. They're hitting the occupied Golan hard right now, by the way.

 

[Solomon2]

Arafat did exactly the opposite and fvcked for ever the dream of Palestinian own land...
he delivered Palestine to the care of Mubarek's Egypt , the lowly servant of the Sauds..

...Let's start with basics. The whole Palestinian homeland bit is a massive scam. Palestinians are Arabs just like the folks in Jordan and Egypt--Arafat was born in Cairo. When the Arab states invaded the nascent state of Israel in 1948, they did not do so for a Palestinian homeland. They just wanted to kill Jews, drive them into the ocean, and eliminate Western influence from the region. Egypt, Jordan, and Syria intended to take the tiny parcel of land allocated to the Jews by the UN and keep it. No Palestinian homeland, no "two state solution," just another "final solution" which would have seen tens-of-thousands of Jews killed, including those born in "Palestine," yes, Jews were also "Palestinians." That's all. Period.

After the Arab states got their clocks cleaned, we began to hear the baying about a Palestine homeland which just so happened to coincide exactly with the boundaries of Israel. Amazing how that happens! Wherever Jews lived, THAT formed part of the Palestinian homeland. Jordan, of course, had the West Bank from 1948 to 1967; at no time was that then considered part of this definition of the "Palestinian" homeland. It was part of Jordan. There were no international cries to free that portion of Palestine from Jordanian occupation. The West Bank became part of the "homeland" only when Israel took it from Jordan in the Six Day War.

We also saw the amazing phenomenon of Palestinian refugees. Arabs displaced by fighting started by Arabs were dumped by Arabs on the tender mercies of the UN. The Arab countries wanted nothing to do with them. The UN being all about programs, of course, created the monstrosities known as Palestinian refugee camps, and established a massive money-sucking bureaucracy to administer them and beg for ever greater amounts of money--most of it from Western countries, including the USA. These camps, really mini versions of Detroit, held tens-of-thousands of people with nothing to do except get free stuff, and, of course, listen to political hacks lecture them about the perfidious Jews and Westerners, and recruit them into violent gangs. Please note that between 1948 and 1967, some one million Jews were expelled from their homes in Arab countries, such as Iraq. There were no UN refuge camps for them; no international bureaucracies set up to protect and "guide" them. No. They moved, and as refugees have done since time immemorial, got on with their lives. I also would note there were no perennial UN programs for the refugees from East Germany. No. West Germany absorbed them into its society and that was that. The same with the Poles and the many other Eastern Europeans displaced by Soviet Communism. No UN programs for them.

That murderous hypocrisy has continued to this day: What is held by the Arabs belongs to the Arabs; what is held by Israel belongs to . . . surprise! . . . the Arabs! When Arab pathologies create a humanitarian mess, the West gets to clean it up. We could expect this nonsense from the corrupt Arab regimes, but it has become a staple of Western leftist thought, as well. We see this in the hysteria over Jewish settlements. It seems that the UN and much of the West have bought the idea that Jews cannot live near Muslims. Areas seen as once Muslim must remain that way forever. That is certainly how Islamists think when, for example, they turn their attention to Spain. -


DiploMad
W. Lewis Amselem, long time US Foreign Service Officer; now retired; served all over the world and under all sorts of conditions. Convinced the State Department needs to be drastically slashed and reformed so that it will no longer pose a threat to the national interests of the United States​

 

[kingQamaR]

Countries like Syria got more integrity in one pinky finger than the whole of Pakistan's army or political parties have in full.

Seriously being a little sectarian troll you will only bring death to you and your community, So Change your way.

 

[925boy]

Stop equating Gulfies with other Arabs. Just because Pakistan always prided itself in building relations with pithoo states while being condemned by nationalist Arab governments doesn't mean Arabs are crap. Pakistan is crap.

Your point is irrelevant because the gulfies ARE the epicenter of the Arab world now,and maybe that's because of cash but that's secondary. The other "arabs"are either weak,or follower sheep so they won't so much unless gullies do something.

 

[925boy]

It's always easier to condemn Arab states for having good relations with Israel when you don't share a border with Israel. Arabs realized for better or worse, they're are stuck together. They're trying to make it work with Israel.

Make it work on what fukn terms? Arab,Muslims have finally shown they really didn't care about their fellow Muslims called Palestinians or Islamic interests in quds or Israel playing fair. If ur really a wet pusy ready to get fkd then be that way from the get go. They talk tough to their population and inctjwir mosques then behind closed doors sleep with Israel. I hate hypocrisy like that

 

[925boy]

Syria is a dump,, if Assad had realised he couldn't be dictator for life, Syria would have survived

Syria is a sunni muslim majority state but its dictator has been a alewite clan installed by the french for decades

It was no longer tolerable that the majority population be denied the right to rule themselves or determine their future leader

Any country batters by war is a dump too so,what's your point?"majority"still cant find a better alt after 11yrs of war that turned syria into a "dump ". Ur only as good as your best realistic option.forget unrealistic hypothetical. Besides,don't deed me that bullsht propaganda that Arab Sunni Muslims like western drmocracy.lmao.what a joke

 

[HamWatan]

Seriously being a little sectarian troll you will only bring death to you and your community, So Change your way.p/quote]

Syria is majority Sunni. Stop assuming that all Muslim countries work the same way some Pakistani village in South Punjab does (i.e overly concerned with sects).

 

[terry5]

Countries like Syria got more integrity in one pinky finger than the whole of Pakistan's army or political parties have in full.

Tool alert .

 

[Trango Towers]

Stop equating Gulfies with other Arabs. Just because Pakistan always prided itself in building relations with pithoo states while being condemned by nationalist Arab governments doesn't mean Arabs are crap. Pakistan is crap.

Name me some good Arab states that are not on your phudo chart

 

[Mentee]

...Let's start with basics. The whole Palestinian homeland bit is a massive scam. Palestinians are Arabs just like the folks in Jordan and Egypt--Arafat was born in Cairo. When the Arab states invaded the nascent state of Israel in 1948, they did not do so for a Palestinian homeland. They just wanted to kill Jews, drive them into the ocean, and eliminate Western influence from the region. Egypt, Jordan, and Syria intended to take the tiny parcel of land allocated to the Jews by the UN and keep it. No Palestinian homeland, no "two state solution," just another "final solution" which would have seen tens-of-thousands of Jews killed, including those born in "Palestine," yes, Jews were also "Palestinians." That's all. Period.

After the Arab states got their clocks cleaned, we began to hear the baying about a Palestine homeland which just so happened to coincide exactly with the boundaries of Israel. Amazing how that happens! Wherever Jews lived, THAT formed part of the Palestinian homeland. Jordan, of course, had the West Bank from 1948 to 1967; at no time was that then considered part of this definition of the "Palestinian" homeland. It was part of Jordan. There were no international cries to free that portion of Palestine from Jordanian occupation. The West Bank became part of the "homeland" only when Israel took it from Jordan in the Six Day War.

We also saw the amazing phenomenon of Palestinian refugees. Arabs displaced by fighting started by Arabs were dumped by Arabs on the tender mercies of the UN. The Arab countries wanted nothing to do with them. The UN being all about programs, of course, created the monstrosities known as Palestinian refugee camps, and established a massive money-sucking bureaucracy to administer them and beg for ever greater amounts of money--most of it from Western countries, including the USA. These camps, really mini versions of Detroit, held tens-of-thousands of people with nothing to do except get free stuff, and, of course, listen to political hacks lecture them about the perfidious Jews and Westerners, and recruit them into violent gangs. Please note that between 1948 and 1967, some one million Jews were expelled from their homes in Arab countries, such as Iraq. There were no UN refuge camps for them; no international bureaucracies set up to protect and "guide" them. No. They moved, and as refugees have done since time immemorial, got on with their lives. I also would note there were no perennial UN programs for the refugees from East Germany. No. West Germany absorbed them into its society and that was that. The same with the Poles and the many other Eastern Europeans displaced by Soviet Communism. No UN programs for them.

That murderous hypocrisy has continued to this day: What is held by the Arabs belongs to the Arabs; what is held by Israel belongs to . . . surprise! . . . the Arabs! When Arab pathologies create a humanitarian mess, the West gets to clean it up. We could expect this nonsense from the corrupt Arab regimes, but it has become a staple of Western leftist thought, as well. We see this in the hysteria over Jewish settlements. It seems that the UN and much of the West have bought the idea that Jews cannot live near Muslims. Areas seen as once Muslim must remain that way forever. That is certainly how Islamists think when, for example, they turn their attention to Spain. -


DiploMad
W. Lewis Amselem, long time US Foreign Service Officer; now retired; served all over the world and under all sorts of conditions. Convinced the State Department needs to be drastically slashed and reformed so that it will no longer pose a threat to the national interests of the United States​

The font is impressive though.

 

[HamWatan]

'When the Arabs invaded' Israeli Hasbara always starts the story from where it wants to. Israeli terror gangs had initiated the violence in 1948 and already succeeded in expelling huge numbers of Palestinians, the 'invading Arabs' were also not of a number greater than the Jewish terrorists in Palestine. So much Hasbara surrounds Israel's creation, it becomes hard for casuals like 99% of the people here to remember the creation of Israel was via land grab, annexation and ethnic cleansing.

Also, Palestinian ownership of the vast majority of the land the Jewish terrorists stole is documented fact.

 

[T-Rex]

Jordan has been a Western puppet for the entirety of its existence, Egypt became a powerless state post-Camp David agreement and Syria is one of the bravest countries I've ever seen. Perpetually in conflict against Ottomans, French colonialism and Zionist aggression.

Lebanon's a largely doomed-to-fail state that shouldn't have been created in the first place (by the French IIRC). However, it's been done a lot of good by the March 8 coalition with regard to stability and sovereignty.

Assad's Syria is the bravest failed state. Oppression is the regular currency there but so what, it is a brave existence! Hitler's Nazi Germany was also a very very brave existence, it fought against almost the entire globe. Wasn't that spectacular?

 

[HamWatan]

No, it isn't a failed state by any measure. Its reconstruction progress during a massive war has been admirable and its military is many times more powerful and potent than before. They aren't going to look like diamonds during a currently 7 year long war.... Use your brains, please.

 

[BHarwana]

Gaza strip in under blockade for a decade now . Just a simple question Gaza has a border with Egypt so why is Egypt not lifting the Blockade?