THE ARAB'S COWARDICE CREATED AND MADE ISRAEL A BUTCHER OF SERVICE

[bsruzm]

Just a simple question Gaza has a border with Egypt so why is Egypt not lifting the Blockade?

Israel, Egypt not allowing Turkish planes for Gaza
@Falcon29

 

[Ceylal]

Gaza strip in under blockade for a decade now . Just a simple question Gaza has a border with Egypt so why is Egypt not lifting the Blockade?

Egypt is the dodo bird of the Arab state, too fat to move with no spine to stand up. Egypt is the one who buried Palestinian dream of a State...Now their presence in Sinai is just ceremonial. Israel has the key and Egypt executes..

 

[somebozo]

Jordan has been a Western puppet for the entirety of its existence, Egypt became a powerless state post-Camp David agreement and Syria is one of the bravest countries I've ever seen. Perpetually in conflict against Ottomans, French colonialism and Zionist aggression.

Lebanon's a largely doomed-to-fail state that shouldn't have been created in the first place (by the French IIRC). However, it's been done a lot of good by the March 8 coalition with regard to stability and sovereignty.

If Pakistan had a migrant labour system like gulf countries, the people would not be soo stupid to fall for propaganda..for last forty years Syria has been a failed state...

 

[BHarwana]

last forty years Syria has been a failed state

Now this statement is wrong.

 

[somebozo]

Egypt is the dodo bird of the Arab state, too fat to move with no spine to stand up. Egypt is the one who buried Palestinian dream of a State...Now their presence in Sinai is just ceremonial. Israel has the key and Egypt executes..

Egyptians look after their interest and so do everyone else with a sane mind..

What has Palestinians done to earn respect for their cause? Whenever they go they spread terrorism and crime..Jordan faced black September..Lebanon and Tunis were bombed due to PLO terrorist attacks..

Jordan even got fedup with Palestine and shook hands with Israel..and refused to become party in any future Palestinian conflict...Peace is far more valuable and prosperous..Jordan understood it early on..

According to a 1993 report by the British National Criminal Intelligence Service, the PLO was "the richest of all terrorist organizations", with $8–$10 billion in assets and an annual income of $1.5-$2 billion from "donations, extortion, payoffs, illegal arms dealing, drug trafficking, money laundering, fraud, etc."[96]

Now this statement is wrong.

Are you getting paid to spread Pro-Syrian propaganda? A failed socialist state with poverty so rife that Gulf is over supplied with Syrian prostitutes.

 

[BHarwana]

Are you getting paid to spread Pro-Syrian propaganda? A failed socialist state with poverty so rife that Gulf is over supplied with Syrian prostitutes.

My friend you jump on getting angry very quick. Syria was not a failed state for 40 years that statement is wrong. Pakistan has been doing business with Syria for a very long time. Much of Pakistani crude oil came from Syria before the civil war and Pakistan sold many commodities to Syria. It was a huge buyer of Pakistan products. Syria was one of the most advanced Arab nations. Now that Syria has been pushed into war and destroyed is some thing totally different. I don't do propaganda I speak truth no matter how hard. Here is a simple question. Why is Libya destroyed. Libya was the richest economies of Africa. Gaddafi was sunni and population was also sunni so where is the human rights violation there? these are all excuses get above them.

Syria destroyed and Libya destroyed because they were threat to Israel. Rest are puppets so they progress.

Gulf is over supplied with Syrian prostitutes.

And lets keep this prostitution out of discussion here because gulf are muslim countries and if I say some thing it will be hurting my own self.

 

[Ceylal]

...Let's start with basics. The whole Palestinian homeland bit is a massive scam. Palestinians are Arabs just like the folks in Jordan and Egypt--Arafat was born in Cairo. When the Arab states invaded the nascent state of Israel in 1948, they did not do so for a Palestinian homeland. They just wanted to kill Jews, drive them into the ocean, and eliminate Western influence from the region. Egypt, Jordan, and Syria intended to take the tiny parcel of land allocated to the Jews by the UN and keep it. No Palestinian homeland, no "two state solution," just another "final solution" which would have seen tens-of-thousands of Jews killed, including those born in "Palestine," yes, Jews were also "Palestinians." That's all. Period.

After the Arab states got their clocks cleaned, we began to hear the baying about a Palestine homeland which just so happened to coincide exactly with the boundaries of Israel. Amazing how that happens! Wherever Jews lived, THAT formed part of the Palestinian homeland. Jordan, of course, had the West Bank from 1948 to 1967; at no time was that then considered part of this definition of the "Palestinian" homeland. It was part of Jordan. There were no international cries to free that portion of Palestine from Jordanian occupation. The West Bank became part of the "homeland" only when Israel took it from Jordan in the Six Day War.

We also saw the amazing phenomenon of Palestinian refugees. Arabs displaced by fighting started by Arabs were dumped by Arabs on the tender mercies of the UN. The Arab countries wanted nothing to do with them. The UN being all about programs, of course, created the monstrosities known as Palestinian refugee camps, and established a massive money-sucking bureaucracy to administer them and beg for ever greater amounts of money--most of it from Western countries, including the USA. These camps, really mini versions of Detroit, held tens-of-thousands of people with nothing to do except get free stuff, and, of course, listen to political hacks lecture them about the perfidious Jews and Westerners, and recruit them into violent gangs. Please note that between 1948 and 1967, some one million Jews were expelled from their homes in Arab countries, such as Iraq. There were no UN refuge camps for them; no international bureaucracies set up to protect and "guide" them. No. They moved, and as refugees have done since time immemorial, got on with their lives. I also would note there were no perennial UN programs for the refugees from East Germany. No. West Germany absorbed them into its society and that was that. The same with the Poles and the many other Eastern Europeans displaced by Soviet Communism. No UN programs for them.

That murderous hypocrisy has continued to this day: What is held by the Arabs belongs to the Arabs; what is held by Israel belongs to . . . surprise! . . . the Arabs! When Arab pathologies create a humanitarian mess, the West gets to clean it up. We could expect this nonsense from the corrupt Arab regimes, but it has become a staple of Western leftist thought, as well. We see this in the hysteria over Jewish settlements. It seems that the UN and much of the West have bought the idea that Jews cannot live near Muslims. Areas seen as once Muslim must remain that way forever. That is certainly how Islamists think when, for example, they turn their attention to Spain. -


DiploMad
W. Lewis Amselem, long time US Foreign Service Officer; now retired; served all over the world and under all sorts of conditions. Convinced the State Department needs to be drastically slashed and reformed so that it will no longer pose a threat to the national interests of the United States​

I have no idea where you fished that article which goes with the encrusted idea that Palestine was a Jewish land in its entirety. Historical facts show a different picture that the one being vehiculated by Israel and the US Tele Evangelists. Palestine was always thru time of times a land of the Palestinians , predominantly moslems with a minority of Jews..It was the British mandate that created the actual Israel with an encouraged influx of European jews that submerged the area. Period!
"PALESTINE’S EARLY ROOTS
Scholars believe the name “Palestine” originally comes from the word “Philistia,” which refers to the Philistines who occupied part of the region in the 12th century B.C.

Throughout history, Palestine has been ruled by numerous groups, including the Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, Greeks, Romans, Arabs, Fatimids, Seljuk Turks, Crusaders, Egyptians, Mamelukes and Islamists.

From about 1517 to 1917, the Ottoman Empire ruled much of the region.

When World War I ended in 1918, the British took control of Palestine. The League of Nations issued a British mandate for Palestine—a document that gave Britain the responsibility of establishing a Jewish national homeland in Palestine—which went into effect in 1923.

THE PARTITION OF PALESTINE
In 1947, the United Nations proposed a plan to partition Palestine into two sections: an independent Jewish state and an independent Arab state, with Jerusalem as internationalized territory.

Jewish leaders accepted the plan, but many Palestinian Arabs vehemently opposed it.

Arab groups argued that they represented the majority of the population in certain regions and should be granted more territory. They began to form volunteer armies throughout Palestine.

ISRAEL BECOMES A STATE
In May 1948, less than a year after the Partition of Palestine was introduced, Britain withdrew from Palestine and Israel became an independent state.

Estimates suggest between 700,000 and 900,000 Palestinians fled or were forced to leave their homes.

Almost immediately, war broke out between Jews and Arabs in the region. The 1948 Arab-Israeli War involved Israel and five Arab nations—Jordan, Iraq, Syria, Egypt and Lebanon.

This conflict marked the beginning of years of violent conflict between Arabs and Israelis."

 

[Fenasi Kerim]

Any more racist comments will see you banned.

Does that apply to the Arabs on the forum? The usual trolls that insult every nation for critising Saudi, UAE or Egypt?

 

[Ceylal]

While Israel is butchering Gazans, children, youngs, women and olds..The Arab States , are as usual soundly asleep

The courage hasn't died..

https://www.facebook.com/

In Gaza, women on the front line
Among Friday's protesters on the Israeli border, many young women decided to defend the Palestinian cause and break the shackles of their society.

A stomped and dry field. At the end is the fence, which should not be approached. Beyond that, it's Israel. It is still early, the bulk of the protesters will come after the midday prayer, but Walla Abu Naji is already sitting on a plastic chair, she has reached the end of the field to settle at the front row. This 28-year-old Gazan, whose only face and hands appear under her long traditional clothes, hails from the Beit Lahiya neighborhood in the north of the landlocked Palestinian territory. She lives there with her parents and ten siblings in the promiscuity of a modest home. She has finished religious studies and plans to teach Islam to children. Unless…"When I left home this morning, I felt that I could die. I want to be a martyr. I want it since my youngest age. " Walla Abu Naji is certain that her mother would be delighted to such an end. "I would serve as a role model for other women. " The previous Friday, she missed this appointment with death. Israeli drones released tear gas, fainted, evacuated.

All the above was made possible because of this

 

[Jaanbaz]

Who cares? Arabs don't care about Pakistan neither should we. However I do feel sorry for innocent children caught up in conflicts. No child deserves to be brought up in a jail like situation(Gaza).

 

[BHarwana]

Who cares? Arabs don't care about Pakistan neither should we. However I do feel sorry for innocent children caught up in conflicts. No child deserves to be brought up in a jail like situation(Gaza).

Arab don't care about Palestine or Pakistan and Pakistan don't need Arabs to care for us. It is Arabs who need Pakistan to care for them. Plus Palestinian are not Arabs any more. Palestinians are now just random Muslims being killed so start caring for them.

 

[somebozo]

My friend you jump on getting angry very quick. Syria was not a failed state for 40 years that statement is wrong. Pakistan has been doing business with Syria for a very long time. Much of Pakistani crude oil came from Syria before the civil war and Pakistan sold many commodities to Syria. It was a huge buyer of Pakistan products. Syria was one of the most advanced Arab nations. Now that Syria has been pushed into war and destroyed is some thing totally different. I don't do propaganda I speak truth no matter how hard. Here is a simple question. Why is Libya destroyed. Libya was the richest economies of Africa. Gaddafi was sunni and population was also sunni so where is the human rights violation there? these are all excuses get above them.

Syria destroyed and Libya destroyed because they were threat to Israel. Rest are puppets so they progress.



And lets keep this prostitution out of discussion here because gulf are muslim countries and if I say some thing it will be hurting my own self.

And then hafeez al assad took over and send terrorist to Pakistan..Al Zulfikar was supported by Syria...all this trade was at behest of another failed socialist leader bhutto..otherwise I have read Syrian and Iraqi history long enough to know..these countries were only good as European colonies..we have been needlessly involved in middle east conflict while getting a hoot from Arabs..time to get rid of excess baggage and focus on our own priorities..!

Arab don't care about Palestine or Pakistan and Pakistan don't need Arabs to care for us. It is Arabs who need Pakistan to care for them. Plus Palestinian are not Arabs any more. Palestinians are now just random Muslims being killed so start caring for them.

they are getting what they deserve..when people dont care for themselves..none should..sorry but nature is about survival of the fittest...and in this era..fit is a very diverse term..

"When I left home this morning, I felt that I could die. I want to be a martyr. I want it since my youngest age. " Walla Abu Naji is certain that her mother would be delighted to such an end.

Such sick and perverted mentality deserved what they get..they want to die..and Israel gave them death..
We served the same treatment to our mullahs..and sent them fast to heaven..we would not have terrorist outfits and suicide bombers..

https://www.dawn.com/news/737798

Syria-Pakistan relations
From the NewspaperJuly 28, 2012
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PAKISTAN’s ties with Syria had nose-dived after Gen Zia hanged prime minister Z.A. Bhutto. Syrian President Hafez Al Assad had urged Zia to spare the elected prime minister’s life. President Assad took serious offence to Zia’s rejection of his plea.

I presented my credentials in early 1982, at a time when our ties with Syria had hit rock bottom. After the hijacking of a PIA Boeing-707 by Al Zulfiqar militants to Damascus, Syria treated the hijackers as state guests.

Ties with Syria were bad when a delegation led by our defence secretary-general Maj-Gen Rahim Khan landed in Damascus to negotiate the return of the hijacked aircraft and passengers.

The delegation was ill-treated, with Damascus siding with the hijackers who demanded release of Al-Zulfiqar detainees in Pakistani jails.

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Ambassador Maj-Gen Sarfraz Khan was recalled, and I was sent to Damascus with the mandate to normalise relations.

During the next five years relations with Syria were normalised. The PIA aircraft and passengers were returned after 150 Al-Zulfiqar militants arrived in Damascus.

Later on President Zia was able to visit Syria and had a one-to-one meeting with President Assad.

A number of trade and cultural protocols were signed. I organised an international seminar on Dr Allama Iqbal’s revolutionary poetry in the prestigious Assad library. Papers were read by renowned Arab and Iranian scholars. I established Pakistan International School in Damascus in 1982. It is now one of the most prestigious Pakistani education institutions abroad.

President Assad was concerned about the political instability in Pakistan. During an audience the Syrian president said: “Had Pakistan adopted Arabic, the language of the Quran, as the national language, the lingual rifts and political divisions and anarchy would not have occurred. Pakistan would have remained a united country.”

I reported this to the government and to President Zia.

President Assad ruled with an iron fist. He promoted relations with Moscow, established socialist dictatorship, armed the Allawite minority, which comprised 10 per cent of the population, but discriminated and was unjust towards the 80 per cent Sunni population.

His policy of confronting Israel, and his steadfast policy for the return of Arab land annexed by Israel after the 1967 Arab-Israeli war, earned him few friends in the West.

The Sunni population feels it has been discriminated against, and has risen in armed revolt against tyranny.

All cities, towns and localities which have risen in revolt have been destroyed. Hundreds of Syrians have fled to neighbouring Turkey, Jordan, and Lebanon. The situation now is out of hand.

After the death of six top generals and cabinet ministers in Free Syrian Army’s attack on the National Security Headquarters, the situation now is out of hand. Syria's future is bleak.

AYAZ AHMED KHAN Former ambassador to Syria

 

[BHarwana]

And then hafeez al assad took over and send terrorist to Pakistan..Al Zulfikar was supported by Syria...all this trade was at behest of another failed socialist leader bhutto..otherwise I have read Syrian and Iraqi history long enough to know..these countries were only good as European colonies..we have been needlessly involved in middle east conflict while getting a hoot from Arabs..time to get rid of excess baggage and focus on our own priorities..!

they are getting what they deserve..when people dont care for themselves..none should..sorry but nature is about survival of the fittest...and in this era..fit is a very diverse term..

What is the priority for our own selves? We don't need any Arab help Mashallah Pakistan is strong enough. Pakistan just needs to get rid of just Arab manufactured democracy being imposed on us like denouncing any leaders that are Arab puppets and every thing will be fine for us. About Palestine every Pakistani thinks Palestine as his first priority not because of Palestinians but it is our Kibla-e-Awal and any one who tells me to stop thinking about Palestine is basically promoting western agenda. My friend don't care for Arabs care for your Kibla-e-awal. Jerusalem is something Muslims cannot let go we are tied to it so start accepting the reality.

 

[somebozo]

What is the priority for our own selves? We don't need any Arab help Mashallah Pakistan is strong enough. Pakistan just needs to get rid of just Arab manufactured democracy being imposed on us like denouncing any leaders that are Arab puppets and every thing will be fine for us. About Palestine every Pakistani thinks Palestine as his first priority not because of Palestinians but it is our Kibla-e-Awal and any one who tells me to stop thinking about Palestine is basically promoting western agenda. My friend don't care for Arabs care for your Kibla-e-awal. Jerusalem is something Muslims cannot let go we are tied to it so start accepting the reality.

Arabs have no power to impose rule over Pakistan..we went in 1970s and gave our head in the Arab chain saw..the association with Palestine conflict itself breeds terrorism in our society...radical problem needs radical solution..we need to disown Palestine..neither Islam emerged in sub-continental India..nor Arabic is our language..when Pakistanis try to proclaim Islam to Arabs..they laugh at us..because we are simply trying to be loyal to the monarch more than the monarch..

Today Israel is a modern democracy with massive intellectual capital which cannot be defeated by Arabs..time to move..from taking the begging bowl to gulf capitals..beggars cannot be choosers...

 

[BHarwana]

Arabs have no power to impose rule over Pakistan..we went in 1970s and gave our head in the Arab chain saw..the association with Palestine conflict itself breeds terrorism in our society...radical problem needs radical solution..we need to disown Palestine..neither Islam emerged in sub-continental India..nor Arabic is our language..when Pakistanis try to proclaim Islam to Arabs..they laugh at us..because we are simply trying to be loyal to the monarch more than the monarch..

Please don't teach me this western propaganda. I am a Pakistani and I love Palestine and feel pain for their freedom and yet I am not extremist I hate terrorism so you are totally wrong in this logic my friend. Many countries have declared Kashmiri freedom fighter as terrorist so if I care for them am I terrorist? nope bro. This thinking is wrong. The only Terrrorist in the world are Israelis and their allys. They are extremists who develop extremist is muslim world.