Terror and impunity in Kashmir

[acetophenol]

Azad Kanyakumari Zindabad

Delhi bhi azzaad kroo!!

Azad Kerala will be annexing the parts of Delhi and Kanyakumari,savy?

 

[SarthakGanguly]

And you think that with this kind of attitude exhibited by India , there is any possibility of peace in the region !?

That's one way of seeing things. 'Lose Kashmir otherwise no peace' - if this is the formula, certainly there will never be any peace, ever.

Of course. Millions of mass graves have been unearthed by activists. Many of them were then taken to court for desecrating graves.

There are two sub statements in this post.
i. Millions of mass graves have been unearthed. I DID NOT say where in particular. You need to understand that is a general statement.
ii. Many of them have been taken to court for desecrating graves.

Sources for statement i. - (this allegedly includes a site in Gujarat, India as well)
Activists wants UN inquiry into Pakistan mass graves | Asia | DW.DE | 28.01.2014
Mexico: rights activists threatened as more mass graves unearthed | World War 4 Report
Ancient mass grave unearthed at Italian gallery thought to contain dozens of plague victims
Mass Graves Unearthed In Hargeysa | Haroon Haji Blog
http://www.lankanewspapers.com/news/2014/3/87039_space.html
The Hindu : National : Mass grave unearthed in Gujarat
Mass Graves in Canada | Welcome to ITCCS.ORG and The International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State

*** Claiming a mass grave site is a serious matter.

Sources for statement ii -
French National Assembly Discusses Desecration of Mass Graves at Dachau | Jewish Telegraphic Agency
Ukraine police nab 3 teens suspected of desecrating Jewish mass grave | Jewish Telegraphic Agency
Adam Holland: Lithuanian desecration of Jewish mass-grave from Holocaust halted
JTA: Ukraine police nab three teens suspected of desecrating Jewish mass grave
Trial over desecrated graves at Eden Memorial Park Cemetery in Mission Hills slated to start Tuesday
Murder For Profit: German War Graves Being Desecrated To Retrieve Nazi Memorabilia

@Secur - Please explain to me on what grounds did you award me the Negative Rating for.

@SpArK @Chinese-Dragon @nair @Oscar @jaibi @Aeronaut @WebMaster

 

[M. Sarmad]

That's one way of seeing things. 'Lose Kashmir otherwise no peace' - if this is the formula, certainly there will never be any peace, ever.

Bhai What you need to understand is : "The accession of Kashmir to India was neither complete nor legal" :
Low turnout, More Violence as Kashmiris Boycott India Poll | Page 14

No one is saying "Lose Kashmir .." ... All we want is : "Kashmiris should be given their right to self determination as was promised to them by India itself" ... How are we wrong ??

 

[Umair Nawaz]

@Aeronaut please clear/ban these indians from thread. Thats why i say to u that restrict indians to comment on certain threads.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Bhai What you need to understand is : "The accession of Kashmir to India was neither complete nor legal" :
Low turnout, More Violence as Kashmiris Boycott India Poll | Page 14

No one is saying "Lose Kashmir .." ... All we want is : "Kashmiris should be given their right to self determination as was promised to them by India itself" ... How are we wrong ??

Bro - There are two vital points in here.

1. The legality of accession.

2. Pandit Nehru's speech.

Overall there is one big fallacy to your arguments. They are based on ethical and moral reasons, or inspired by them. Unfortunately the world geopolitics do not work that way. Anyway, let's examine the vital points here.

1. The legality of accession - What you quoted was correct, to the letter in fact. But the State of Kashmir was not a country like, say, Soviet Union or Canada etc. It was not recognized by any independent state at the UN. So the accession papers would never had any value in the UN. Sikkim was a case where the papers were submitted because Sikkim had a status. Kashmir did not. Besides, according to the Independence Act, they had a protocol to follow. If you question the accession of Kashmir you need to question that of every other Princely State - all over India and Pakistan.

2. The Government of India never gave that agreement that there will be a plebiscite. Because technically -
i. It was the Dominion of India.
ii. Also the Constitution did not come into being/effect.
Even if Pandit Nehru wanted to give Kashmir to Pakistan on a platter, he could not have, because the Constitution forbids such a move in its most basic and inviolable form.
Nehru also gave the Panscheel speech, where is it now? Now, the point is not the simple black and white of the 40s. Things have become far more complex. My great grandfather's teachers were Hindu and fought for freedom from Hari Singh's rule. He became a collector post integration with India. Such an environment does no longer exist anymore.

Yaar, I am not going to be dishonest. A plebiscite is not going to happen as long as there is the Republic of India. To give you a sample - for example 100% of the population of say Gujarat wants freedom from India, even then India won't grant them the right. And we are talking about Kashmir where around 50% of the population of the valley want independence. Even that number I doubt - mainly because the separatist parties have not participated in the elections. But then that would have punctured their tall claims.

 

[INDIC]

Bhai What you need to understand is : "The accession of Kashmir to India was neither complete nor legal"

Kashmir's accession with India was much legal as accession of other princely states like Bahawalpur, Chitral, Khairpur's accession with Pakistan.

No one is saying "Lose Kashmir .." ... All we want is : "Kashmiris should be given their right to self determination as was promised to them by India itself" ... How are we wrong ??

Seriously, this was never Pakistan's intentions, always your intention was making Kashmir part of Pakistan by any means.

 

[madooxno9]

As if we care
Send one more regiment to Kashmir

Now please cry me a river

Kashmir is an Indian Land and will remain so and sooner or later Kashmiri Pandits will return to the valley and that day kashmir will again become jaanat Kashmir .

Till that time you can send target practice for IA.

 

[sherin616]

I think every pdf member is ISI because the know the number of militery personel in kashmir when election time
Pakistanis call kashmiris brothers and they are telling are killed in kashmir and forgetting many more muslims are killed in pakistan now and past what they do against them
Some times i feels pakistanis know more about india than indians know

 

[bronxbull]

And you think that with this kind of attitude exhibited by India , there is any possibility of peace in the region !?

Please dont give excuses for what you do,just state what you want.

Chotay bhai we will repeat the truth thousand times ..... We will keep repeating it Until You guys realize your mistakes

good luck.

you can stop when you get tired yourself.

 

[M. Sarmad]

Bro - There are two vital points in here.
1. The legality of accession.
2. Pandit Nehru's speech.
Overall there is one big fallacy to your arguments. They are based on ethical and moral reasons, or inspired by them. Unfortunately the world geopolitics do not work that way.

My friend , Kashmir is an internationally recognized disputed territory .....

1) India itself took the dispute to the UN Security Council in 1948, where it is still registered as such and thus remains a pending agenda till it is resolved.

2) The Indian Representative, in his letter to the President of the Security Council, regarding the status of the State clarified that finally "its people would be free to decide their future by the recognised democratic method of a plebiscite or referendum which, in order to ensure complete impartiality, might be held under international auspices"

3) The UN Security Council discussions led to the resolutions of August 13, 1948, and January 5, 1949, which clearly laid down that "the question of the accession of the State of Jammu and Kashmir to India or Pakistan will be decided through the democratic method of a free and impartial plebiscite."

4) These UN resolutions are still valid . They can become invalid only when the UN Security Council declares them null and viod.


I don`t know what you mean by "legality" , and what made you say : " The Government of India never gave that agreement that there will be a plebiscite" ....

"The accession of Kashmir to India was neither complete nor legal" ..... Comparing Kashmir to any other Indian state doesn`t make any sense . Kashmir is not a part of India .

The legal process is that if "Pakistan, India and Kashmiris reach an agreement on the settlement of the Kashmir dispute, they would have to go back to the UN Security Council to get another resolution to endorse that procedure" ... Until then , Kashmir would remain a disputed territory under international law ... No matter what Indians say about it ...


However , I strongly believe that only a concerted political effort has the greatest potential for yielding a viable solution to Kashmir as any international legal solution, like any military solution , is very unlikely ......

 

[MilSpec]

My friend , Kashmir is an internationally recognized disputed territory .....

1) India itself took the dispute to the UN Security Council in 1948, where it is still registered as such and thus remains a pending agenda till it is resolved.

2) The Indian Representative, in his letter to the President of the Security Council, regarding the status of the State clarified that finally "its people would be free to decide their future by the recognised democratic method of a plebiscite or referendum which, in order to ensure complete impartiality, might be held under international auspices"

3) The UN Security Council discussions led to the resolutions of August 13, 1948, and January 5, 1949, which clearly laid down that "the question of the accession of the State of Jammu and Kashmir to India or Pakistan will be decided through the democratic method of a free and impartial plebiscite."

4) These UN resolutions are still valid . They can become invalid only when the UN Security Council declares them null and viod.


I don`t know what you mean by "legality" , and what made you say : " The Government of India never gave that agreement that there will be a plebiscite" ....

"The accession of Kashmir to India was neither complete nor legal" ..... Comparing Kashmir to any other Indian state doesn`t make any sense . Kashmir is not a part of India .

The legal process is that if "Pakistan, India and Kashmiris reach an agreement on the settlement of the Kashmir dispute, they would have to go back to the UN Security Council to get another resolution to endorse that procedure" ... Until then , Kashmir would remain a disputed territory under international law ... No matter what Indians say about it ...


However , I strongly believe that only a concerted political effort has the greatest potential for yielding a viable solution to Kashmir as any international legal solution, like any military solution , is very unlikely ......

*RESOLUTION ADOPTED BY THE UNITED NATIONS COMMISSION FOR INDIA AND
PAKISTAN ON 13 AUGUST 1948. (DOCUMENT NO. S/1100, PARA 75, DATED THE
9TH NOVEMBER, 1948)

THE UNITED NATIONS COMMISSION FOR INDIA AND PAKISTAN

Having given careful consideration to the points of view expressed by
the Representatives of India and Pakistan regarding the situation in
the State of Jammu and Kashmir, and

Being of the opinion that the prompt cessation of hostilities and the
coercion of conditions the continuance of which is likely to endanger
international peace and security are essential to implementation of
its endeavors to assist the Governments of India and Pakistan in
effecting a final settlement of the situation.

Resolves to submit simultaneously to the Governments of India and
Pakistan the following proposal

PART I

CEASE-FIRE ORDER

1. The Governments of India and Pakistan agree that their respective
High Commands will issue separately and simultaneously a cease- fire
order to apply to all forces under their control in the State of Jammu
and Kashmir as of the earliest practicable date or dates to be
mutually agreed upon within four days after these proposals have been
accepted by both Governments.

2. The High Commands of Indian and Pakistan forces agreed to refrain
from taking any measures that might augment the military potential of
the forces under their control in the State of Jammu and Kashmir. (For
the purpose of these proposals "forces under their control shall be
considered to include all forces, organized and unorganized, fighting
or participating in hostilities on their respective sides).

3. The Commanders-in-Chief of the Forces of India and Pakistan shall
promptly confer regarding any necessary local changes in present
dispositions which may facilitate the cease-fire.

4. In its discretions and as the Commission may find practicable, the
Commission will appoint military observers who under the authority of
the Commission and with the co-operation of both Commands will
supervise the observance of the cease-fire order.

5. The Government of India and the Government of Pakistan agree to
appeal to their respective peoples to assist in creating and
maintaining an atmosphere favorable to the promotion of further
negotiations.



PART II

TRUCE AGREEMENT

Simultaneously with the acceptance of the proposal for the immediate
cessation of hostilities as outlined in Part I, both Governments
accept the following principles as a basis for the formulation of a
truce agreement, the details of which shall be worked out in
discussion between their Representatives and the Commission.

1. (l) As the presence of troops of Pakistan in the territory of the
State of Jammu and Kashmir constitutes a material change in the
situation since it was represented by the Government of Pakistan
before the Security Council, the Government of Pakistan agrees to
withdraw its troops from that State.
(2) The Government of Pakistan will use its best endeavor to secure
the withdrawal from the State of Jammu and Kashmir of tribesmen and
Pakistan nationals not normally resident therein who have entered the
State for the purpose of fighting.

(3) Pending a final solution the territory evacuated by the Pakistan
troops will be administered by the local authorities under the
surveillance of the Commission.

2. (1) When the Commission shall have notified the Government of India
that the tribesmen and Pakistan nationals referred to in Part II A 2
hereof have withdrawn, thereby terminating the situation which was
represented by the Government of India to the Security Council as
having occasioned the presence of Indian forces in the State of Jammu
and Kashmir, and further, that the Pakistan forces are being withdrawn
from the State of Jammu and Kashmir, the Government of India agrees to
begin to withdraw the bulk of their forces from the State in stages to
be agreed upon with the Commission
(2) Pending the acceptance of the conditions for a final settlement of
the situation in the State of Jammu and Kashmir, the Indian Government
will maintain within the lines existing at the moment of cease-fire
the minimum strength of its forces which in agreement with the
Commission are considered necessary to assist local authorities in the
observance of law and order. The Commission will have observers
stationed where it deems necessary.
(3) The Government of India will undertake to ensure that the
Government of the State of Jammu and Kashmir will take all measures
within their power to make it publicly known that peace, law and order
will be safeguarded and that all human and political rights will be
guaranteed.

3. (1) Upon signature, the full text of the Truce Agreement or
communiqué containing the principles thereof as agreed upon between
the two Governments and the Commission, will be made public.

PART III

The Government of India and the Government of Pakistan reaffirm their
wish that the future status of the State of Jammu and Kashmir shall be
determined in accordance with the will of the people and to that end,
upon acceptance of the Truce Agreement both Governments agree to enter
into consultations with the Commission to determine fair and equitable
conditions whereby such free expression will be assured.


*The UNCIP unanimously adopted this Resolution on 13-8-1948.

Members of the Commission: Argentina. Belgium, Columbia,
Czechoslovakia and U.S.A.

*RESOLUTION ADOPTED AT THE MEETING OF THE UNITED NATIONS COMMISSION FOR INDIA AND PAKISTAN ON 5 JANUARY, 1949. (DOCUMENT NO. S/1196, PARA IS, DATED THE 10TH JANUARY, 1949)
Having received from the Governments of India and Pakistan in Communications, dated December 23 and December 25, 1948, respectively their acceptance of the following principles which are supplementary to the Commission's Resolution of August 13, 1948;
The question of the accession of the State of Jammu and Kashmir to India or Pakistan will be decided through the democratic method of a free and impartial plebiscite;
A plebiscite will be held when it shall be found by the Commission that the cease-fire and truce arrangements set forth in Parts I and II of the Commission's resolution of 13 August 1948, have been carried out and arrangements for the plebiscite have been completed;

RESOLUTION 91 (1951) CONCERNING THE INDIA-PAKISTAN QUESTION SUBMITTED BY THE REPRESENTATIVES OF UNITED KINGDOM AND UNITED STATES AND ADOPTED BY THE SECURITY COUNCIL ON MARCH 30, 1951. (DOCUMENT NO. S/2017/REV. I, DATED THE 30TH MARCH, 1951)

Observing that the Governments of India and Pakistan have accepted the provisions of the United Nations Commission for India and Pakistan resolutions of 13 August, 1948, and 5 January, 1949, and have re-affirmed their desire that the future of the State of Jammu and Kashmir shall be decided through the democratic method of a free and impartial plebiscite conducted under the auspices of the United Nations,

*RESOLUTION 98 (1952) ADOPTED BY THE SECURITY COUNCIL AT ITS 611TH MEETING ON 23 DECEMBER, 1952. (DOCUMENT NO. S/2883, DATED THE 24TH DECEMBER, 1952).

THE SECURITY COUNCIL,

Recalling its resolutions, 91 (1951) of 30 March 1951, its decision of 30 April 1951 and its resolution 96 (1951) of 10 November 1951, (which in turn points back to 13 aug 1948)

FF- 1971

RESOLUTION 303 (1971) ADOPTED BY THE SECURITY COUNCIL AT ITS 1606TH MEETING, ON 6 DECEMBER 1971.

THE SECURITY COUNCIL,
Having considered the item on the agenda of its 1606th meeting as contained in document S. Agenda/1606.

Taking into account that the lack of unanimity of its permanent members at the 1606th and 1607th meetings of the Security Council has prevented it from exercising its primary responsibility for the aintenance

on international peace and security,

Decides to refer the question contained in documents S/Agenda/1606 to the General Assembly at its twenty-sixth session, as provided for in Assembly resolution 377 A (V) of 3 November 1950. (which again build on the same 13 Aug 1948 )


RESOLUTION 307 (1971) ADOPTED BY THE SECURITY COUNCIL AT ITS 1616TH MEETING, ON 21 DECEMBER 1971.

THE SECURITY COUNCIL,

 

[M. Sarmad]

*RESOLUTION ADOPTED BY THE UNITED NATIONS COMMISSION FOR INDIA AND
PAKISTAN ON 13 AUGUST 1948. (DOCUMENT NO. S/1100, PARA 75, DATED THE
9TH NOVEMBER, 1948)

THE UNITED NATIONS COMMISSION FOR INDIA AND PAKISTAN

Having given careful consideration to the points of view expressed by
the Representatives of India and Pakistan regarding the situation in
the State of Jammu and Kashmir, and

Being of the opinion that the prompt cessation of hostilities and the
coercion of conditions the continuance of which is likely to endanger
international peace and security are essential to implementation of
its endeavors to assist the Governments of India and Pakistan in
effecting a final settlement of the situation.

Resolves to submit simultaneously to the Governments of India and
Pakistan the following proposal

PART I

CEASE-FIRE ORDER

1. The Governments of India and Pakistan agree that their respective
High Commands will issue separately and simultaneously a cease- fire
order to apply to all forces under their control in the State of Jammu
and Kashmir as of the earliest practicable date or dates to be
mutually agreed upon within four days after these proposals have been
accepted by both Governments.

2. The High Commands of Indian and Pakistan forces agreed to refrain
from taking any measures that might augment the military potential of
the forces under their control in the State of Jammu and Kashmir. (For
the purpose of these proposals "forces under their control shall be
considered to include all forces, organized and unorganized, fighting
or participating in hostilities on their respective sides).

3. The Commanders-in-Chief of the Forces of India and Pakistan shall
promptly confer regarding any necessary local changes in present
dispositions which may facilitate the cease-fire.

4. In its discretions and as the Commission may find practicable, the
Commission will appoint military observers who under the authority of
the Commission and with the co-operation of both Commands will
supervise the observance of the cease-fire order.

5. The Government of India and the Government of Pakistan agree to
appeal to their respective peoples to assist in creating and
maintaining an atmosphere favorable to the promotion of further
negotiations.



PART II

TRUCE AGREEMENT

Simultaneously with the acceptance of the proposal for the immediate
cessation of hostilities as outlined in Part I, both Governments
accept the following principles as a basis for the formulation of a
truce agreement, the details of which shall be worked out in
discussion between their Representatives and the Commission.

1. (l) As the presence of troops of Pakistan in the territory of the
State of Jammu and Kashmir constitutes a material change in the
situation since it was represented by the Government of Pakistan
before the Security Council, the Government of Pakistan agrees to
withdraw its troops from that State.
(2) The Government of Pakistan will use its best endeavor to secure
the withdrawal from the State of Jammu and Kashmir of tribesmen and
Pakistan nationals not normally resident therein who have entered the
State for the purpose of fighting.

(3) Pending a final solution the territory evacuated by the Pakistan
troops will be administered by the local authorities under the
surveillance of the Commission.

2. (1) When the Commission shall have notified the Government of India
that the tribesmen and Pakistan nationals referred to in Part II A 2
hereof have withdrawn, thereby terminating the situation which was
represented by the Government of India to the Security Council as
having occasioned the presence of Indian forces in the State of Jammu
and Kashmir, and further, that the Pakistan forces are being withdrawn
from the State of Jammu and Kashmir, the Government of India agrees to
begin to withdraw the bulk of their forces from the State in stages to
be agreed upon with the Commission
(2) Pending the acceptance of the conditions for a final settlement of
the situation in the State of Jammu and Kashmir, the Indian Government
will maintain within the lines existing at the moment of cease-fire
the minimum strength of its forces which in agreement with the
Commission are considered necessary to assist local authorities in the
observance of law and order. The Commission will have observers
stationed where it deems necessary.
(3) The Government of India will undertake to ensure that the
Government of the State of Jammu and Kashmir will take all measures
within their power to make it publicly known that peace, law and order
will be safeguarded and that all human and political rights will be
guaranteed.

3. (1) Upon signature, the full text of the Truce Agreement or
communiqué containing the principles thereof as agreed upon between
the two Governments and the Commission, will be made public.

PART III

The Government of India and the Government of Pakistan reaffirm their
wish that the future status of the State of Jammu and Kashmir shall be
determined in accordance with the will of the people and to that end,
upon acceptance of the Truce Agreement both Governments agree to enter
into consultations with the Commission to determine fair and equitable
conditions whereby such free expression will be assured.

*The UNCIP unanimously adopted this Resolution on 13-8-1948.

Members of the Commission: Argentina. Belgium, Columbia,
Czechoslovakia and U.S.A.

*RESOLUTION ADOPTED AT THE MEETING OF THE UNITED NATIONS COMMISSION FOR INDIA AND PAKISTAN ON 5 JANUARY, 1949. (DOCUMENT NO. S/1196, PARA IS, DATED THE 10TH JANUARY, 1949)
Having received from the Governments of India and Pakistan in Communications, dated December 23 and December 25, 1948, respectively their acceptance of the following principles which are supplementary to the Commission's Resolution of August 13, 1948;
The question of the accession of the State of Jammu and Kashmir to India or Pakistan will be decided through the democratic method of a free and impartial plebiscite;
A plebiscite will be held when it shall be found by the Commission that the cease-fire and truce arrangements set forth in Parts I and II of the Commission's resolution of 13 August 1948, have been carried out and arrangements for the plebiscite have been completed;

RESOLUTION 91 (1951) CONCERNING THE INDIA-PAKISTAN QUESTION SUBMITTED BY THE REPRESENTATIVES OF UNITED KINGDOM AND UNITED STATES AND ADOPTED BY THE SECURITY COUNCIL ON MARCH 30, 1951. (DOCUMENT NO. S/2017/REV. I, DATED THE 30TH MARCH, 1951)

Observing that the Governments of India and Pakistan have accepted the provisions of the United Nations Commission for India and Pakistan resolutions of 13 August, 1948, and 5 January, 1949, and have re-affirmed their desire that the future of the State of Jammu and Kashmir shall be decided through the democratic method of a free and impartial plebiscite conducted under the auspices of the United Nations,

*RESOLUTION 98 (1952) ADOPTED BY THE SECURITY COUNCIL AT ITS 611TH MEETING ON 23 DECEMBER, 1952. (DOCUMENT NO. S/2883, DATED THE 24TH DECEMBER, 1952).

THE SECURITY COUNCIL,

Recalling its resolutions, 91 (1951) of 30 March 1951, its decision of 30 April 1951 and its resolution 96 (1951) of 10 November 1951, (which in turn points back to 13 aug 1948)

FF- 1971

RESOLUTION 303 (1971) ADOPTED BY THE SECURITY COUNCIL AT ITS 1606TH MEETING, ON 6 DECEMBER 1971.

THE SECURITY COUNCIL,
Having considered the item on the agenda of its 1606th meeting as contained in document S. Agenda/1606.

Taking into account that the lack of unanimity of its permanent members at the 1606th and 1607th meetings of the Security Council has prevented it from exercising its primary responsibility for the aintenance

on international peace and security,

Decides to refer the question contained in documents S/Agenda/1606 to the General Assembly at its twenty-sixth session, as provided for in Assembly resolution 377 A (V) of 3 November 1950. (which again build on the same 13 Aug 1948 )

RESOLUTION 307 (1971) ADOPTED BY THE SECURITY COUNCIL AT ITS 1616TH MEETING, ON 21 DECEMBER 1971.

THE SECURITY COUNCIL,

And how does it disprove what I am saying ?? Did you even bother to read my post before copy pasting irrelevant stuff ??
Using large fonts doesn`t prove anything my friend .......

You are a senior member and we expect better from you ....

 

[MilSpec]

And how does it disprove what I am saying ?? Did you even bother to read my post before copy pasting irrelevant stuff ??
Using large fonts doesn`t prove anything my friend .......

You are a senior member and we expect better from you ....

my dear, you need to understand that ball has been in pakistan's court for a very long time and we haven't seen any movement along the lines of UNSC resolutions, on contrast we have seen the blatant violation of the spirit of UNSC resolution which has lead India to believe that that there is no intent on pakistani side to resolve this issue. .

Thus plebiscite is no longer a viable option unless pakistan has a change of heart.

Additionaaly your context is for India to give right of plebiscite to kashmiris, that cannot happen untill pakistan abides by it's pre reqs for plebiscite.

 

[M. Sarmad]

my dear, you need to understand that ball has been in pakistan's court for a very long time and we haven't seen any movement along the lines of UNSC resolutions, on contrast we have seen the blatant violation of the spirit of UNSC resolution which has lead India to believe that that there is no intent on pakistani side to resolve this issue. .

Thus plebiscite is no longer a viable option unless pakistan has a change of heart.

Once India, agrees to adopt UN resolutions on J&K, Pakistan will remove its troops, while India needs to do the same.

This has been explained to you guys a lots of times but you keep ignoring it

Here are a few posts on this topic from 2007 :

Sino-Pakistan Frontier Agreement - 1963 | Page 2
Sino-Pakistan Frontier Agreement - 1963 | Page 3

 

[MilSpec]

Once India, agrees to adopt UN resolutions on J&K, Pakistan will remove its troops, while India needs to do the same.

This has been explained to you guys a lots of times but you keep ignoring it

Here are a few posts on this topic from 2007 :

Sino-Pakistan Frontier Agreement - 1963 | Page 2
Sino-Pakistan Frontier Agreement - 1963 | Page 3

hmm... India is a signatory to the UNSC resolutions on kashmir, thus has been in agreement since the resolution was signed and with every subsequent resolutions. If india was in disagreement there would be no resolution.
> vacate kashmir,
>intimate the commission
> India will maintain minimal troops and civil administration and will conduct the plebiscite...

Instead what did you guys do??? remember 1965