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Low turnout, More Violence as Kashmiris Boycott India Poll

There are six seats in Jammu and Kashmir.

3 in Kashmir .... Baramulla , Srinagar and Anantnag ... right ??

Anantnang : 28 %
Srinagar : 26 %
Baramula : 39 %


Even if the official figures were to be trusted , Fraud elections have failed to inspire the Kashmiris ....
 
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Anantnang : 28 %
Srinagar : 26 %
Baramula : 39 %


Even if the official figures were to be trusted , Fraud elections have failed to inspire the Kashmiris ....

:crazy::crazy:

you have lot many places in Pakistan having less than 25% voting even after having loads of fake voters and widespread rigging. :wacko: Your words sounds like pot calling the Kettle black.:cuckoo:
 
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3 in Kashmir .... Baramulla , Srinagar and Anantnag ... right ??

Anantnang : 28 %
Srinagar : 26 %
Baramula : 39 %


Even if the official figures were to be trusted , Fraud elections have failed to inspire the Kashmiris ....
Its still more than what Pakistan managed in more than a dozen districts.
 
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Baramulla had 46% in the end. Other than that you chose two of the lowest polled areas. They don't include majority let alone all JnK people. About the reasons - I mentioned that a few days back. :)

Source plz ?

Addressing a press conference here this evening, the J&K’s Chief Electoral Officer UmangNarula said 39.6 percent polling was recorded in Kupwara-Baramulla parliamentary seat, which is spread over three districts viz. Kupwara, Baramulla and Bandipora, with 15 Assembly segments.

you have lot many places in Pakistan having less than 25% voting even after having loads of fake voters and widespread rigging. :wacko: Your words sounds like pot calling the Kettle black.:cuckoo:
India itself promised right of self determination for the people of Kashmir in UN . But now :

1) India claims that Kashmir is an integral part of India

2) India claims that elections in Kashmir are an alternative to the "plebiscite"

UN rejects Indian claims .......

And a low election turnout proves that Kashmiris also reject the Indian claims ...

Security forces outnumber the voters , . All kind of force is used , ... In the end the election turnout is exaggerated .... And yet they fail ........It happens in India only ....The so called World`s largest Democracy ...... !!


And the rest of your nonsense is irrelevant ...
 
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India itself promised right of self determination for the people of Kashmir in UN . But now :

1) India claims that Kashmir is an integral part of India

2) India claims that elections in Kashmir are an alternative to the "plebiscite"

UN rejects Indian claims .......

And a low election turnout proves that Kashmiris also reject the Indian claims ...

Security forces outnumber the voters , . All kind of force is used , ... In the end the election turnout is exaggerated .... And yet they fail ........It happens in India only ....The so called World`s largest Democracy ...... !!


And the rest of your nonsense is irrelevant ...

Wow! repeating the same rant and claiming 50% voter turnout is poll boycott. :crazy: Anyway, we have accession paper the most authentic document, Pakistan already violated the UN resolution when it attacked India in 1965. @SathakGanguly I showed him the scan copy of accession paper with signature of Hari Singh and Lord Mountbatten but he still claimed it as fake. :wacko::wacko:
 
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Wow! repeating the same rant and claiming 50% voter turnout is poll boycott. :crazy: Anyway, we have accession paper the most authentic document, Pakistan already violated the UN resolution when it attacked India in 1965. @SathakGanguly I showed him the scan copy of accession paper with signature of Hari Singh and Lord Mountbatten but he still claimed it as fake. :wacko::wacko:

Again 50 % turnout ??? :crazy::crazy: .... You are a pathological liar

And here is the reality of the so called "instrument of accession" :pop::

Security forces outnumber voters in Kashmir elections | Page 7
 
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Damn!!

The Kashmiri's were effectively brain washed till 1989 and it was like any other state in India - whatever happened ever since?

occupied Kashmir is not an indian state per se..so your laws and your sovereignty dont apply there

Yupp they dont exist, they press their receivers, forge their barrels, form thier cases, make thier grenades, build thier RPG's... Pakistan or ISI doesn't support them...

your argument is self defeating..

nope. To be honest, there are enough private donations (locally and internationally) that would be channeled towards the freedom struggle. I could speculate the ISI has reliable informants on the ground in iOK, it takes time to build reliable contacts. Whereas the private individuals - many are from Azad Kashmir or areas along that border or leading towards it. Because of their faith as well as ethnic/linguistic ties it is only natural that they will support the freedom struggle

all these groups you mention are defunct...you dont need groups to support Kashmiri freedom fighters. You need people to understand the cause, delegate people to collect the funds, delegate people to distribute them. Now how those funds are utilized - that's up in the air. But quite frankly - if they go towards weapons then i have no issues with it. The indians did what was in their interests by arming/training/dispatching mukti bahini militants.

at least the Kashmiri freedom fighters only target the occupation forces (sissies, rapists) rather than innocent civilians. So in my mind, it's all good and it's all legitimate. What the invaders did to Kashmir and Kashmiris was/is MUCH worse.

as long as you kill people, expect there to be anger - which leads to retaliation. It's human nature 101
 
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Again 50 % turnout ??? :crazy::crazy: .... You are a pathological liar

And here is the reality of the so called "instrument of accession" :pop::

Security forces outnumber voters in Kashmir elections | Page 7

i guess what they mean is the soldiers were the main turnout :laugh:

Source plz ?




India itself promised right of self determination for the people of Kashmir in UN . But now :

1) India claims that Kashmir is an integral part of India

2) India claims that elections in Kashmir are an alternative to the "plebiscite"

UN rejects Indian claims .......

And a low election turnout proves that Kashmiris also reject the Indian claims ...

Security forces outnumber the voters , . All kind of force is used , ... In the end the election turnout is exaggerated .... And yet they fail ........It happens in India only ....The so called World`s largest Democracy ...... !!


And the rest of your nonsense is irrelevant ...


the world saw this "democracy" at its finest when pro-Pakistan Kashmiri students got beaten up just because of which team they supported during a professional game of cricket :laugh:
 
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occupied Kashmir is not an indian state per se..so your laws and your sovereignty dont apply there

We have the accession documents. so it remains an Indian state - though because of Nehru it is a disputed one, but until any final solution comes out it will be treated and remain an Indian state. That's what this thread is about isn't it?. General elections in Kashmir

But that wasn't an answer to my question. My question was what happened in 1989?
 
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Blah blah....blah
at least the Kashmiri freedom fighters only target the occupation forces (sissies, rapists) rather than innocent civilians. So in my mind, it's all good and it's all legitimate. What the invaders did to Kashmir and Kashmiris was/is MUCH worse.
.....more blah blah
Like mumbai 26/11

India itself promised right of self determination for the people of Kashmir in UN . But now :

1) India claims that Kashmir is an integral part of India

2) India claims that elections in Kashmir are an alternative to the "plebiscite"

UN rejects Indian claims .......

And a low election turnout proves that Kashmiris also reject the Indian claims ...

Security forces outnumber the voters , . All kind of force is used , ... In the end the election turnout is exaggerated .... And yet they fail ........It happens in India only ....The so called World`s largest Democracy ...... !!


And the rest of your nonsense is irrelevant ...

ha haa... read UNSC security council resolution on kashmir and state the pre-requisites for plebiscite....

3 in Kashmir .... Baramulla , Srinagar and Anantnag ... right ??

Anantnang : 28 %
Srinagar : 26 %
Baramula : 39 %


Even if the official figures were to be trusted , Fraud elections have failed to inspire the Kashmiris ....
what were your election figures in KPK, Balochistan and fata? but then again democracy isn't a strong suite in pakistan to begin with so my question is a moot point.
 
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We have the accession documents. so it remains an Indian state

Although, at first glance, India’s claim to Kashmir appears consistent with international law, a more thorough analysis suggests otherwise !!


1) International law clearly states that every treaty entered into by a member of the United Nations must be registered with the Secretariat of the United Nations. "The Instrument of Accession" was neither presented to the United Nations nor to Pakistan. Hence India cannot invoke the treaty before any organ of the United Nations.


2) The legality of the Instrument of Accession may also be questioned on grounds that it was obtained under coercion. The International Court of Justice has stated that there "can be little doubt, as is implied in the Charter of the United Nations and recognized in Article 52 of the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties, that under contemporary international law an agreement concluded under the threat or use of force is void."..... India’s military intervention in Kashmir was provisional upon the Maharaja’s signing of the Instrument of Accession. More importantly, however, the evidence suggests that Indian troops were pouring into Srinigar even before the Maharaja had signed the treaty. This fact would suggest that the treaty was signed under duress.


3) The Maharaja had no authority to sign the treaty, hence the Instrument of Accession can be considered without legal standing . The situation on the ground demonstrates that the Maharaja was hardly in control of the state of Jammu and Kashmir. Hari Singh was in flight from the state capital, Srinigar. And it is highly doubtful that the Maharaja could claim that his government had a reasonable chance of staying in power .....

Thus, an analysis of the circumstances surrounding the signing of the Instrument of Accession shows that the accession of Kashmir to India was neither complete nor legal, as Delhi has vociferously contended for over sixty years.


Alastair Lamb (in his book, Kashmir - A disputed legacy 1846-1990) points out that the Instrument of Accession could not have been signed by the Mahrajah on 26th October as he was travelling by road to Jammu (a distance of over 350 Km). There is no evidence to suggest that a meeting or communication of any kind took place on 26th October 1947. In fact it was on 27th October 1947 that the Mahrajah was informed by his MC Mahajan and VP Menon (who had flown into Srinagar), the the Instrument of Accession had already been negotiated in Dehli. The Mahrajah did not in fact sign the Instrument of Accession, if at all, until 27th October 1947. This sheds doubts on the actions of the Indian regime


Moreover, further shedding doubt on the treaty`s validity, in 1995 Indian authorities claimed that the original copy of the treaty (letter of accession) was either stolen or lost !!!


The International Commission of Jurists (ICJ), based in Geneva, passed a resolution in 1993 proclaiming Kashmir's accession to India as bogus and null and void.


Kashmir: not an integral part of India - thenews.com.pk

BBC NEWS | South Asia | Kashmir: The origins of the dispute

http://icj.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/...hmir-fact-finding-mission-report-1995-eng.pdf




Therefore, letter of accession is lost, if not lost, null (declared by ICJ, UN Resolutions and PM Jawaharlal Nehru), if not null, void by the very people its supposed to serve. Even if its not void, the provision of the letter of accession lets the people of J&K decide their fate (according to PM Jawaharlal Nehru)




In his broadcast to the nation over All India Radio on 2nd November, 1947, Pandit Nehru said,:
"We are anxious not to finalise anything in a moment of crisis and without the fullest opportunity to be given to the people of Kashmir to have their say. It is for them ultimately to decide ------ And let me make it clear that it has been our policy that where there is a dispute about the accession of a state to either Dominion, the accession must be made by the people of that state. It is in accordance with this policy that we have added a proviso to the Instrument of Accession of Kashmir".



ha haa... read UNSC security council resolution on kashmir and state the pre-requisites for plebiscite....


Your claim that Pakistan halted the process is simply wrong . The whole world knows that it was India who halted the process .

Here is the resolution (resolution 98) :
3. Notes that agreement on a plan of demilitarization of the State of Jammu and Kashmir has not been reached because the Governments of India and Pakistan have not agreed on the whole of paragraph 7 of the twelve-point proposals

4. Urges the Governments of India and Pakistan to enter into immediate negotiations under the auspices of the United Nations Representative for India and Pakistan in order to reach agreement on the specific number of forces to remain on each side of the cease-fire line at the end of the period of demilitarization, this number to be between 3,000 and 6,000 armed forces remaining on the Pakistan side of the cease-fire line and between 12,000 and 18,000 armed forces remaining on the India side of the cease-fire line, as suggested by the United Nations Representative in his proposals of 16 July 1952, such specific numbers to be arrived at bearing in mind the principles or criteria contained in paragraph 7 of the United Nations Representative's proposal of 4 September 1952;

Pakistan agreed But India refused to reduce the number of troops , And this is what halted the process .... Demilitarization would have followed once terms and conditions had been settled ... But India was never serious in conducting a plebiscite in Kashmir , fearing that the Muslim Majority of J&K would vote against India



Remember, UNCIP chief blamed India for the halt of the plebiscite process in Kashmir. That's who should know whose fault it was.

The London Economist stated that "the whole world can see that India, which claims the support of this majority [the Kashmiri people]...has been obstructing a holding of an internationally supervised plebis-cite." Sir Owen Dixon, the United Nations Representative to the UNCIP, reported to the Security Council that,

In the end, I became convinced that India’s agreement would never be obtained to demilitarization in any such form, or to provisions governing the period of the plebiscite of any such character, as would in my opinion permit the plebiscite being conducted in conditions sufficiently guarding against intimidation, and other forms of abuse by which the freedom and fairness of the plebiscite might be imperiled.

In this regard, India’s apparent efforts to obstruct the holding of a plebiscite in Kashmir stand in violation of international law. !!

And then the reasons :

The matter of fact is Nehru was not serious in holding a plebiscite in Kashmir from Day 1 .... He was only trying to fool the people of Kashmir and the international community ...


Writing to the Chief Minister of West Bengal, B.C. Roy on 29 June 1953, Nehru confided “If there was a plebiscite, a great majority of Muslims in Kashmir would go against us.” They had “become frightened of the communal elements in Jammu and in India.” He had “this feeling of our losing grip in Kashmir.” [Selected Works of Jawaharlal Nehru, vol. 22, pp.204-5]


In 1996 was published a Note Nehru had written to Sheikh Abdullah on 25 August 1952 from Sonamarg in Kashmir. It is a document of cardinal importance. It laid bare Nehru’s entire approach to the questions; his strategy and tactics. He revealed that “towards the end of 1948” he concluded that “there were only two possibilities open to us, continuance of the war in a limited way; (2) some kind of a settlement on the basis of the existing military situation”. He had accepted the UNCIP resolutions to get a ceasefire; not to hold a plebiscite. “We are superior to Pakistan in military and industrial power,” With the passage of time Pakistan will “accept a settlement which we consider fair, whether in Kashmir or elsewhere”.

He was not bothered about what “Pakistan did or what the United Nations might do.” But he was “worried to find that the leaders of Kashmir were not so clear in their minds about the present or the future.” He was not worried about the wishes of the people either. They were “not what are called a virile people. They are soft and addicted to easy living.” Like Indira Gandhi, he felt that they were interested in “an honest administration and cheap and adequate food. If they get this, then they are more or less content.” The State would retain its “autonomy in most respects.” The leaders must shed doubt as doubt “percolates to their followers.” His recipe was clear. “Make the people think that the association of Kashmir State with India is an accomplished and final fact, and nothing is going to undo it.” [Selected Works of Jawaharlal Nehru, vol. 19, pp.322-330. ed. S. Gopal, Nehru Memorial Fund, OUP, Second Series.]



what were your election figures in KPK, Balochistan and fata? but then again democracy isn't a strong suite in pakistan to begin with so my question is a moot point.

And how is that related to elections held in an "internationally recognized disputed territory" ??

India itself promised right of self determination for the people of Kashmir in UN . But now :

1) India claims that Kashmir is an integral part of India

2) India claims that elections in Kashmir are an alternative to the "plebiscite"

UN rejects Indian claims .......

And a low election turnout proves that Kashmiris also reject the Indian claims ...
 
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Although, at first glance, India’s claim to Kashmir appears consistent with international law, a more thorough analysis suggests otherwise !!


1) International law clearly states that every treaty entered into by a member of the United Nations must be registered with the Secretariat of the United Nations. "The Instrument of Accession" was neither presented to the United Nations nor to Pakistan. Hence India cannot invoke the treaty before any organ of the United Nations.


2) The legality of the Instrument of Accession may also be questioned on grounds that it was obtained under coercion. The International Court of Justice has stated that there "can be little doubt, as is implied in the Charter of the United Nations and recognized in Article 52 of the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties, that under contemporary international law an agreement concluded under the threat or use of force is void."..... India’s military intervention in Kashmir was provisional upon the Maharaja’s signing of the Instrument of Accession. More importantly, however, the evidence suggests that Indian troops were pouring into Srinigar even before the Maharaja had signed the treaty. This fact would suggest that the treaty was signed under duress.


3) The Maharaja had no authority to sign the treaty, hence the Instrument of Accession can be considered without legal standing . The situation on the ground demonstrates that the Maharaja was hardly in control of the state of Jammu and Kashmir. Hari Singh was in flight from the state capital, Srinigar. And it is highly doubtful that the Maharaja could claim that his government had a reasonable chance of staying in power .....

Thus, an analysis of the circumstances surrounding the signing of the Instrument of Accession shows that the accession of Kashmir to India was neither complete nor legal, as Delhi has vociferously contended for over sixty years.


Alastair Lamb (in his book, Kashmir - A disputed legacy 1846-1990) points out that the Instrument of Accession could not have been signed by the Mahrajah on 26th October as he was travelling by road to Jammu (a distance of over 350 Km). There is no evidence to suggest that a meeting or communication of any kind took place on 26th October 1947. In fact it was on 27th October 1947 that the Mahrajah was informed by his MC Mahajan and VP Menon (who had flown into Srinagar), the the Instrument of Accession had already been negotiated in Dehli. The Mahrajah did not in fact sign the Instrument of Accession, if at all, until 27th October 1947. This sheds doubts on the actions of the Indian regime


Moreover, further shedding doubt on the treaty`s validity, in 1995 Indian authorities claimed that the original copy of the treaty (letter of accession) was either stolen or lost !!!


The International Commission of Jurists (ICJ), based in Geneva, passed a resolution in 1993 proclaiming Kashmir's accession to India as bogus and null and void.


Kashmir: not an integral part of India - thenews.com.pk

BBC NEWS | South Asia | Kashmir: The origins of the dispute

http://icj.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/...hmir-fact-finding-mission-report-1995-eng.pdf


Here is the original article from where you have conviniently cherry picked.

SJIR: The Fate of Kashmir : International Law or Lawlessness?

The International Legal Validity of Kashmir's Accession to India

From the history of the Kashmir conflict, it is now imperative to analyze the various international legal elements associated with the dispute. Chronologically, the first legal issue is the validity of Hari Singh’s accession to the Republic of India. As noted, the British Government’s partition plan provided that under the Government of India Act of 1935, which went into effect in August 1947, a state could enter into a federal relationship with either India or Pakistan. Independence was not an acceptable alternative. India argues, quite simply, that Kashmir became an integral part of India the moment Hari Singh signed the Instrument of Accession. Additionally, India’s legal case rests on the argument that the Maharaja of Kashmir was the only competent authority to sign the Instrument of Accession.20 India points to the fact that international juristic opinion has largely recognized the right of heads of states to sign international treaties. For instance, Judge Anzilotti, a former President of the Permanent Court of International Justice, stresses the principle of jus representationis omnimodae, stating that "international law imputes to a State all the manifestations of will and the acts which the head of the State acting in that capacity accomplishes in the domain of international relations."21 Thus, India claims that once the Instrument of Accession was signed by the Maharaja of Kashmir and accepted by Lord Mountbatten and Prime Minister Nehru, India had the international and constitutional right, as well as the duty, to protect Kashmir from the invading tribesmen.

Although, at first glance, India’s claim to Kashmir appears consistent with international law, a more thorough analysis suggests otherwise. First, one may seriously question the Maharaja’s authority to sign the Instrument of Accession. Pakistan argues that the prevailing international practice on recognition of state governments is based on the following three factors: first, the government’s actual control of the territory; second, the government’s enjoyment of the support and obedience of the majority of the population; third, the government’s ability to stake the claim that it has a reasonable expectation of staying in power.22 The situation on the ground demonstrates that the Maharaja was hardly in control of the state of Jammu and Kashmir. In fact, almost all of Kashmir was under the control of the invading tribesmen and local rebels. The Maharaja held actual control over only parts of Jammu and Ladakh at the time that the treaty was signed. Moreover, Hari Singh was in flight from the state capital, Srinigar. With regard to the Maharaja’s control over the local population, it is clear that he enjoyed no such control or support. Furthermore, the state’s armed forces were in total disarray after being thoroughly defeated by the invading forces and the local uprising. Finally, it is highly doubtful that the Maharaja could claim that his government had a reasonable chance of staying in power without Indian military intervention. This assumption is substantiated by the Maharaja’s letter to the Government of India, in which he states that, "if my state has to be saved, immediate assistance must be available at Srinigar."23 Therefore, if the Maharaja had no authority to sign the treaty, the Instrument of Accession can be considered without legal standing.24

The legality of the Instrument of Accession may also be questioned on grounds that it was obtained under coercion. The International Court of Justice has stated that there "can be little doubt, as is implied in the Charter of the United Nations and recognized in Article 52 of the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties, that under contemporary international law an agreement concluded under the threat or use of force is void."25 As already stated, India’s military intervention in Kashmir was provisional upon the Maharaja’s signing of the Instrument of Accession. More importantly, however, the evidence suggests that Indian troops were pouring into Srinigar even before the Maharaja had signed the treaty.26 This fact would suggest that the treaty was signed under duress.

Finally, there is some doubt as to whether the treaty was ever signed. International law clearly states that every treaty entered into by a member of the United Nations must be registered with the Secretariat of the United Nations.27 The Instrument of Accession was neither presented to the United Nations nor to Pakistan. While this does not void the treaty, it does mean that India cannot invoke the treaty before any organ of the United Nations.28 Moreover, further shedding doubt on the treaty’s validity, in 1995 Indian authorities claimed that the original copy of the treaty was either stolen or lost.29Thus, an analysis of the circumstances surrounding the signing of the Instrument of Accession suggests that the accession of Kashmir to India was neither complete nor legal, as Delhi has vociferously contended for over fifty years. Kashmir may still legally be considered a disputed territory.

Pakistan argues that even if the Instrument of Accession is considered legal, India’s refusal to hold a plebiscite in Kashmir makes the accession incomplete. India, however, argues that its expressed "wish" to hold a plebiscite in Kashmir is amoral, not legal obligation.30 Pakistan, however, retorts that India’s obligation to hold a plebiscite in Kashmir arises out of India’s acceptance of the United Nations Commission for India and Pakistan (UNCIP) resolutions of August 13, 1948. This resolution contains proposals for holding a plebiscite in Kashmir which would allow the people to choose between accession to either Pakistan or to India. India asserts that the resolution states that the plebiscite will be held when a ceasefire is arranged and when Pakistan and India withdraw their troops from Kashmir. Neither of these conditions has been met. Thus, India’s position seems to rest on solid legal ground until one considers the legal principle expressed in the Latin maxim nullus commodum capere potest de injuria sua propria (no man can take advantage of his own wrong).31 In the context of the Kashmir dispute, this means that India cannot frustrate attempts to create conditions ripe for a troop withdrawal and ceasefire in order to avoid carrying out its obligations to hold a plebiscite. The evidence suggests that India was clearly at least as equally unwilling as Pakistan to withdraw troops from Kashmir. The London Economist stated that "the whole world can see that India, which claims the support of this majority [the Kashmiri people]...has been obstructing a holding of an internationally supervised plebis-cite."32 Sir Owen Dixon, the United Nations Representative to the UNCIP, reported to the Security Council that,

In the end, I became convinced that India’s agreement would never be obtained to demilitarization in any such form, or to provisions governing the period of the plebiscite of any such character, as would in my opinion permit the plebiscite being conducted in conditions sufficiently guarding against intimidation, and other forms of abuse by which the freedom and fairness of the plebiscite might be imperiled.33

In this regard, India’s apparent efforts to obstruct the holding of a plebiscite in Kashmir stand in violation of international law.
 
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Like mumbai 26/11

was an act of terrorism


ha haa... read UNSC security council resolution on kashmir and state the pre-requisites for plebiscite

lead by example then and move your troops away from the borders - Pak would return the gesture


what were your election figures in KPK, Balochistan and fata? but then again democracy isn't a strong suite in pakistan to begin with so my question is a moot point.

3 regions where illiteracy is very high...in the case of FATA and Balochistan, geography (i.e. the remoteness of many of the areas) hinders things further

incidentally - scores of Baloch reside in Karachi/Sindh and they participated and are politically active. Same applies with Pakhtuns.

in the case of FATA - almost every family of every tribe have direct connections to KPK (DI Khan, Kohat, Peshawar Charsadda etc.) and in all those localities there were polling stations.....those who chose to vote had the right to do so - and they werent held between a rock and a hard place the way Kashmiris are every single day of the year.

a siege since '48
 
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Your claim that Pakistan halted the process is simply wrong . The whole world knows that it was India who halted the process .

Here is the resolution (resolution 98) :
3. Notes that agreement on a plan of demilitarization of the State of Jammu and Kashmir has not been reached because the Governments of India and Pakistan have not agreed on the whole of paragraph 7 of the twelve-point proposals

4. Urges the Governments of India and Pakistan to enter into immediate negotiations under the auspices of the United Nations Representative for India and Pakistan in order to reach agreement on the specific number of forces to remain on each side of the cease-fire line at the end of the period of demilitarization, this number to be between 3,000 and 6,000 armed forces remaining on the Pakistan side of the cease-fire line and between 12,000 and 18,000 armed forces remaining on the India side of the cease-fire line, as suggested by the United Nations Representative in his proposals of 16 July 1952, such specific numbers to be arrived at bearing in mind the principles or criteria contained in paragraph 7 of the United Nations Representative's proposal of 4 September 1952;

Pakistan agreed But India refused to reduce the number of troops , And this is what halted the process .... Demilitarization would have followed once terms and conditions had been settled ... But India was never serious in conducting a plebiscite in Kashmir , fearing that the Muslim Majority of J&K would vote against India



Remember, UNCIP chief blamed India for the halt of the plebiscite process in Kashmir. That's who should know whose fault it was.

The London Economist stated that "the whole world can see that India, which claims the support of this majority [the Kashmiri people]...has been obstructing a holding of an internationally supervised plebis-cite." Sir Owen Dixon, the United Nations Representative to the UNCIP, reported to the Security Council that,

In the end, I became convinced that India’s agreement would never be obtained to demilitarization in any such form, or to provisions governing the period of the plebiscite of any such character, as would in my opinion permit the plebiscite being conducted in conditions sufficiently guarding against intimidation, and other forms of abuse by which the freedom and fairness of the plebiscite might be imperiled.

In this regard, India’s apparent efforts to obstruct the holding of a plebiscite in Kashmir stand in violation of international law. !!

And then the reasons :


The matter of fact is Nehru was not serious in holding a plebiscite in Kashmir from Day 1 .... He was only trying to fool the people of Kashmir and the international community ...


Writing to the Chief Minister of West Bengal, B.C. Roy on 29 June 1953, Nehru confided “If there was a plebiscite, a great majority of Muslims in Kashmir would go against us.” They had “become frightened of the communal elements in Jammu and in India.” He had “this feeling of our losing grip in Kashmir.” [Selected Works of Jawaharlal Nehru, vol. 22, pp.204-5]


In 1996 was published a Note Nehru had written to Sheikh Abdullah on 25 August 1952 from Sonamarg in Kashmir. It is a document of cardinal importance. It laid bare Nehru’s entire approach to the questions; his strategy and tactics. He revealed that “towards the end of 1948” he concluded that “there were only two possibilities open to us, continuance of the war in a limited way; (2) some kind of a settlement on the basis of the existing military situation”. He had accepted the UNCIP resolutions to get a ceasefire; not to hold a plebiscite. “We are superior to Pakistan in military and industrial power,” With the passage of time Pakistan will “accept a settlement which we consider fair, whether in Kashmir or elsewhere”.

He was not bothered about what “Pakistan did or what the United Nations might do.” But he was “worried to find that the leaders of Kashmir were not so clear in their minds about the present or the future.” He was not worried about the wishes of the people either. They were “not what are called a virile people. They are soft and addicted to easy living.” Like Indira Gandhi, he felt that they were interested in “an honest administration and cheap and adequate food. If they get this, then they are more or less content.” The State would retain its “autonomy in most respects.” The leaders must shed doubt as doubt “percolates to their followers.” His recipe was clear. “Make the people think that the association of Kashmir State with India is an accomplished and final fact, and nothing is going to undo it.” [Selected Works of Jawaharlal Nehru, vol. 19, pp.322-330. ed. S. Gopal, Nehru Memorial Fund, OUP, Second Series.]




And how is that related to elections held in an "internationally recognized disputed territory" ??

India itself promised right of self determination for the people of Kashmir in UN . But now :

1) India claims that Kashmir is an integral part of India

2) India claims that elections in Kashmir are an alternative to the "plebiscite"

UN rejects Indian claims .......

And a low election turnout proves that Kashmiris also reject the Indian claims ...


Now isn't that cute, prerequsite - clearly states it is pakistan who has to remove it's milita and armed forces, ball has been in you court since the signing of the resolution....
 
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Now isn't that cute, prerequsite - clearly states it is pakistan who has to remove it's milita and armed forces, ball has been in you court since the signing of the resolution....

Hah! It isn't Pakistani forces butchering/raping Kashmiris

you accuse Pakistan of supporting "non state actors".....how about the militias india is supporting?
 
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