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Teach Pakistan a lesson like 1965: Hazare

@liontk : Chocolate Milk & Glazed Croissant ! :smitten:

All alone without sharing them with me ! :angry:

Dude, don't worry there ain't gonna be any war or anything like it ! :D

Besides Pakistan ain't a pushover either; we lost '71 because of our own mistakes & some brilliant opportunism by India ! Ain't gonna happen again ! :tup:
 
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@liontk : Chocolate Milk & Glazed Croissant ! :smitten:

All alone without sharing them with me ! :angry:

Dude, don't worry there ain't gonna be any war or anything like it ! :D

Besides Pakistan ain't a pushover either; we lost '71 because of our own mistakes & some brilliant opportunism by India ! Ain't gonna happen again ! :tup:

I know Pakistan is no push over but these 14 year old teenagers think they know the world, seriously indienne media has brainwashed them. Just had to show them that there government is not squeeky clean as they say.
As far as glaced croissant, its hard to share when only few places in canada make them hehe, I don't think even mainland french know Quebecois recipe. If you ever end up in Montrèal, ``Mamie Clafoutis cafe`` is where he best glaced croissants are in my opinion. Though they are very expensive 10 bucks for a full croissant, so do remember to collect your coupons from flyers(my family habit) before going(hypothetically if you come to canada haha)
 
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Anna hazare please read official indian war history archives ;


View Full Version : 1965 WAR - A saga of Indian defeat

Amar786
7th September 2012, 02:14
These quotes are from chapter 12 of the Indian Official History of 1965 war. The Indian official history is full of such observations about the inefficiency of their military leadership during the 1965 war that ultimately led them to defeat.

On the morning of 6th September when Indian forces crossed into Pakistan territory in the Burki Sector, the higher ups had assured their under command that they would have their breakfast in Lahore. But in the next few days the Indian Army was to learn that a nation's spirit could never be taken lightly.

An American Radio Service journalist Rai Milan writes in his war diary, "I want to bring it on record that India is claiming victory but on ground there is no evidence to support Indian claims. What I see is only destroyed Indian tanks and huge logistic support units rolling towards their forward area. During my long journalistic career spanning over two decades, I have never seen a group of such confident individuals as the victorious Pakistani soldiers fighting against Indians".

According to Wikipedia Encyclopaedia analysis about 1965 war, the invasion of Pakistan by the Indian Army was a strategic blunder. The Indian Army failed to analyse the real potential of the Pakistan Army that resulted in their defeat. The official history of the 1965 war drafted by the Indian Ministry in 1992 was a long suppressed document that outlined intelligence and strategic blunders by India during the war. According to the document, on September 22, when the Security Council was pressing for a cease-fire, the Indian Prime Minister asked General Choudhri if India could possibly win the war, he would delay accepting the cease-fire for a little while longer. The General replied that most of India's frontline ammunition had been used up and the Indian Army had suffered tank losses.

It was revealed later that only 14% of India's frontline ammunition had been fired and India still held twice the number of tanks than Pakistan. By this time the Pakistan Army had used up about 80% of its ammunition. Air Chief Marshal (Retired) P.C. Lal, who was the Vice Chief of Air Staff during the conflict, points to the lack of co-ordination between the IAF and the Indian Army. Neither side revealed its battle plans to the other. The battle plans drafted by the Indian Ministry of Defence and General Chaudhri did not specify a role for the Indian Air Force in the order of battle. There are hundreds of other blunders by the Indian intelligence and their field commanders.

Pakistan Army, with the backing of its entire nation, stood like a cemented wall against the Indian onslaught at all fronts. At the Sialkot front, one Indian Infantry, one Armoured Division and an Armoured Brigade were repulsed by an Infantry Division. Fifteen Indian attacks were repulsed only at Chawinda-Philora Sectors. India had to face the biggest humiliation at Lahore front, where thirteen of their attacks were repulsed. At Kasur, The Pakistani forces not only repulsed many Indian attacks but went deep into India and captured a substantial chunk of their territory. The spirited Pakistani nation faced the Indian might boldly and defeated them at all fronts. There have been rare examples of extreme valour and courage in the military history as were witnessed during the 1965 war both by Pakistani nation and soldiers. Despite numerical superiority, Indians were humiliated at all fronts in sea, air and ground. The war that India imposed on Pakistan on September 6, 1965 was the product of several years of constant and deliberate planning in New Delhi. The underlying Indian philosophy behind this aggressive attack on a smaller neighbour, Pakistan, was to take revenge of the division of India in 1947 and an endeavour to reverse the freedom and independence of the Muslims of Pakistan. The war that continued with full resolve and determination in the ranks and file of Pakistan Armed Forces proved once and forever, that the valiant Pakistani soldiers, backed by a resolute nation, were not to be cowed down by the Indian threats and intimidations.

"In the Jammu-Sialkot sector, the Indian Army massed the largest chunk of its might ie 1 Corps consisting of one Armoured Division (one Armoured Brigade and one Lorried Brigade), two Infantry Divisions and one Mountain Division. However, 1 Corps did not achieve proportionate results. Here again, bad generalship at the Corps and the Divisional levels, and lack of co-operation among the formations, were responsible for their poor showing."

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buddha india main corruption to khatam ker nhi saka ab bbak bak kar rah ahai pak ko :rofl:
 
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So he wants to teach Pakistan this lesson.

During the Indo-Pakistani War of 1965, Hazare was posted at the border in the Khem Karan sector. He was the sole survivor of an enemy attack—variously claimed to have been a bomb, an aerial assault and an exchange of fire at the border—while he was driving a truck.[12][13][16] The experiences of wartime, coupled with the poverty from which he had come, affected him. He considered suicide at one point but turned instead to pondering the meaning of life and death.

So he wants Pakistan to learn this lesson. Kill all Indians except one. Good. Yeh to acha lesson hai. :rofl:
 
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Indian Official War History from a Pakastani newspaper...Written by some unnamed moron reporter

Listen Karan truth is that India lost the war badly in 1965, India threw everything at its disposal to take Pakistani land, Indian generals were saying that we will have breakfast in Lahore and then tea in Rawalpindi in evening, that was all sweet fantasy dreams.
 
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Indian Official War History from a Pakastani newspaper...Written by some unnamed moron reporter

LOL, the "Amar786" gives the BS up, seems to be an extension of the propaganda found in Pakistani text books.
 
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Listen Karan truth is that India lost the war badly in 1965, India threw everything at its disposal to take Pakistani land, Indian generals were saying that we will have breakfast in Lahore and then tea in Rawalpindi in evening, that was all sweet fantasy dreams.

Toone kaha aur maine maan liya :lol: :facepalm:

Check at the time of cease fire, who held how much of other's land
 
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Listen Karan truth is that India lost the war badly in 1965, India threw everything at its disposal to take Pakistani land, Indian generals were saying that we will have breakfast in Lahore and then tea in Rawalpindi in evening, that was all sweet fantasy dreams.

Fact remains that, it was pakistani army which was the aggressor and initiated the war, when Indian army retaliated, we were knocking on lahore..... It was dismal performance from pakistan go from being the agressor to defending it's city. India has no territorial ambitions and did not want to take over any city of pakistan to begin with,,,, you started it we responded...
 
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Listen Karan truth is that India lost the war badly in 1965, India threw everything at its disposal to take Pakistani land, Indian generals were saying that we will have breakfast in Lahore and then tea in Rawalpindi in evening, that was all sweet fantasy dreams.

Failure yes. Defeat No.

It was a stalemate. You held our land, we held yours. At the end truce was reached. I don't see how it is a victory or defeat for either. Had the war lasted a month more, there would have been a clear victor
 
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What do you expect to hear from a village idiot. People still compare him with gandhi. lol :)
 
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anna hazare.

"Anna" in punjabi means blind. Thats exactly what he seems.

I was just wandering wether hazare means totally piss..d.
 
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