Tata Motors plans assembly unit in Bangladesh, to make 50,000 cars a year

[bluesky]

We literally export DOUBLE (in just cars) your total automotive industry (incl motorcycles, trucks, buses etc) consumption of 2.5 billion USD.

Yes, thanks to the assembling plant of a Japanese company and its technology. As far as I understand Suzuki does not manufacture even a small body part in India. It brings in all and assemble them. Now, you are telling, it is India made. But, can we tell Mitsubishi Pajero is made in BD?

 

[Allah Akbar]

That is all you can do. Be silent about it. While be go about serving your market, doing business. You are making fun a company who has more than 150 Billions $ in market cap and even in India is regarded high for its market ethics and values.

Even Baba ramdev and Patanjali has more cash by selling canvassers items in India .What is your point ? More people big market

We need car manufacturing plant in Bangladesh.Even if it TATA. I can't remember any other country in world with over 100 million people who don't have car manufacturing plant. Tiny Slovakia(pop. 5 million) with just 89 billion dollar GDP is producing 1 million car every year. We are now begger in this front. We should not be choosy.

Motor vehicle industry is a crucial part of industrialization for any country. We can't expect to become industrial economy continuing to ignoring this crucial component.So I welcome this move on part of TATA.

You are right brother but we need company like Toyota , Mitsubishi or at least Hyundai for car productions.A car is an asset and I will buy a car which has a good re sell value. Indian cars are not reliable .

Funny, the dumping ground for used Japanese cars are talking about quality.

Those used Japanese cars have more value than your brand new Indian cars in the market . So what is your point ?

 

[Homo Sapiens]

You are right brother but we need company like Toyota , Mitsubishi or at least Hyundai for car productions.A car is an asset and I will buy a car which has a good re sell value. Indian cars are not reliable .

Those companies will not invest here unless our market grow to a respectable size.And here is the dilemma, how you will boost the car sale in our country when a tiny percentage of our middle and upper class are hooked to the over taxed, over priced, 2nd hand Car from Japan? At first you have to make the car truly a commodity for the 'Volks'. Then they will be interested to explore this market.Only 20k-30k car sale, that to 2nd hand imported do not give any positive signal to those car manufacturing giant.Here TATA can help us to take off our buying power by introducing cheap, locally made car.

 

[liall]

50,000 more cars on the road every year just from one company?! I'm not sure our infrastructure can handle it. We need better public transport not more cars.

The growing middle class of Dhaka desires a car. You cant deny them!

 

[Homo Sapiens]

The growing middle class of Dhaka desires a car. You cant deny them!

Exactly, middle class in BD is no different than any other country. They also yearn for a private car. Ideally our car sale should be 8-10 times higher than present level given the size of our economy.But it is artificially depressed by high cost related to long distance import plus 175 percent import duty. If TATA or any other company start producing here, then people will be able buy car manufactured using local cheap labor and just 55 percent tax.Car price will come down to 1/3rd of present level.Currently people are buying a reconditioned Japanese car by paying 16 lakh to 24 lakh taka. Imagine what will happen when they can buy new car with just 6-8 lakh Taka! Sale will skyrocket 10 times within a short period. Then a much, much bigger segment of middle class people will be able to afford a car with their income.

 

[Bilal9]

Exactly, middle class in BD is no different than any other country. They also covet for a private car. Ideally our car sale should be 8-10 times higher than present level given the size our economy.But it is artificially depressed by high cost related to long distance import plus 175 percent import duty. If TATA or any other company start producing here, then people will be able buy car using local cheap labor with just 55 percent tax.Car price will come down to 1/3rd of present level.Currently people are buying a reconditioned Japanese car by paying 16 lakh to 24 lakh taka. Imagine what will happen when they can buy new car with just 6-8 lakh Taka. Sale will skyrocket to 10 times within few years. Then a much, much bigger segment of middle class people will be able to afford a car with their income.

I think growth of car market will have to follow establishment and smooth functioning of BRT and Metro and simultaneous phasing out of autos and rickshaws on even side streets. Otherwise chaos level might increase.

Took me half an hour to find it, but I finally located the revised and cabinet-approved 500 page Dhaka Transport plan that looked at all this.

http://www.dmtc.org.bd/contents/uploads/media/2017/04/24/58fddda933ceb-RSTP-Final-Report.pdf

My God this report is HUGE and detailed! Please be considerate and download the report locally to your laptop before reading the PDF file. Lot of great nuggets of information in there, and I am very impressed how much was considered and looked at (efficient traffic flows using modern 21st century modes of transport).

The experts formulated the plan under the auspices of JICA and the projection and scope covers 2015 to 2035.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

I think growth of car market will have to follow establishment and smooth functioning of BRT and Metro. Otherwise chaos level might increase.

Exactly.

I think growth of car market will have to follow establishment and smooth functioning of BRT and Metro. Otherwise chaos level might increase.

Took me half an hour to find it, but I finally located the revised and cabinet-approved 500 page Dhaka Transport plan that looked at all this.

http://www.dmtc.org.bd/contents/uploads/media/2017/04/24/58fddda933ceb-RSTP-Final-Report.pdf

My God this report is HUGE and detailed! Please be considerate and download the report locally to your laptop before reading the PDF file. Lot of great nuggets of information in there, and I am very impressed how much was considered and looked at (efficient traffic flows using modern 21st century modes of transport).

The experts formulated the plan under the auspices of JICA and the projection and scope covers 2015 to 2035.

Thanks for finding and sharing it. I will download and look into it.

 

[UKBengali]

@bilal
@Homo Sapiens

Guys, I have been talking about RSTP 2016-2035 for months now.

 

[bluesky]

Don't know a single person in BD who owns a tata or nano.

Who knows, but may the PM of BD will use a Nano as her official car. She is too fond of India and anything Indian.

 

[Bilal9]

@bilal
@Homo Sapiens

Guys, I have been talking about RSTP 2016-2035 for months now.

I know - credit goes to you....

So what's your take on this document? Maybe we should open a separate thread to discuss. Or did we open one already?

 

[UKBengali]

I know - credit goes to you....

So what's your take on this document? Maybe we should open a separate thread to discuss. Or did we open one already?

Highly credible.

It has been prepared with the full participation and input of Japan's JICA. Most of the funding will come from JICA.

The total cost will be 40 billion US dollars and this will include 5 metro lines(first line is being built now), 6 massive elevated expressways(1 being built now), 3 circular ring roads and thousands of kms of roads in and around Dhaka.

It is not an understatement to say that Dhaka will have near world-class transport infrastructure by 2035. The other important part of the plan is that it builds infrastructure for cross-BD travel and this will allow people to travel from say Sylhet to Chittagong without going into Dhaka at all.

 

[bluesky]

Exactly, middle class in BD is no different than any other country. They also yearn for a private car. Ideally our car sale should be 8-10 times higher than present level given the size of our economy.

It is unwise to talk about economy when Dhaka roads are unfit for driving a car. The country has only 420,384 cars by a 2017 estimate. GoB collects heavy taxes from foreign import to keep the number in check. So, ask the govt. to upgrade the road system before people can buy cars. Except personal car parking, there is almost no parking spaces in Dhaka. A more number of cars is certainly not welcome at this stage. BD should build the necessary infrastructure to accommodate more number of cars.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

It is unwise to talk about economy when Dhaka roads are unfit for driving a car. The country has only 420,384 cars by a 2017 estimate. GoB collects heavy taxes from foreign import to keep the number in check. So, ask the govt. to upgrade the road system before people can buy cars. Except personal car parking, there is almost no parking spaces in Dhaka. A more number of cars is certainly not welcome at this stage. BD should build the necessary infrastructure to accommodate more number of cars.

Infrastructure for car is coming. Main problem is too many commuter are in the street in Bus, rickshaw, minibus clogging the road.Ideally bulk of these non driving commuter should be on metro rail or metro bus.If you can nullify the need of 80 percent rickshaw, bus, minibus from the city road then a lot of space will be available for the car.And build couple of ring road, elevated expressway, overpass,underpass, diversion road, car handling capacity of Dhaka will increase many folds. Those mere 420k car looks overwhelming only because car has no velocity in this city.They are stuck in the road most of the time jostling with rickshaw and bus for a little space .Make them run at 80 km per hour in signal free condition without rickshaw and bus jam, those 420k car will look nothing.

 

[TopCat]

It is unwise to talk about economy when Dhaka roads are unfit for driving a car. The country has only 420,384 cars by a 2017 estimate. GoB collects heavy taxes from foreign import to keep the number in check. So, ask the govt. to upgrade the road system before people can buy cars. Except personal car parking, there is almost no parking spaces in Dhaka. A more number of cars is certainly not welcome at this stage. BD should build the necessary infrastructure to accommodate more number of cars.

There are exclusively no private cars outside of Dhaka. Roads are coming but we need affordable cars too for those roads.
We dont want to be import dependant when the push comes. TATA is a very good start.

 

[Nilgiri]

The video is for a sales promotion of Suzuki Baleno. I have not seen one such India made car in Japan. We will hear it if the made in India car is accepted by the Japanese. Do not expect too much. But, wish for good luck.

The numbers and evidence of sales are all there in original post. Statistics released by Suzuki themselves:

http://www.jada.or.jp/contents/data/hanbai/brand02.html#

Please dont be so lazy again. No one cares what you claim to see or not to see...as though you have personally visited every corner of Japan and counted all the cars.

I mean I guess bluesky the lowly BD immigrant knows so much on the issue compared to the CEO of Suzuki himself:

https://www.nexaexperience.com/nexaworld-made-in-india-baleno-launched-in-japan.html

Kenichi Ayukawa, MD & CEO, Maruti Suzuki India Ltd., said, "A landmark moment like this is a true testimony to the success of Indian Government's "Make in India" campaign. Launch of 'Made in India' Baleno in Japan is a proud moment for all of us. This reaffirms Maruti Suzuki's manufacturing potential and growing importance of Maruti Suzuki India Limited in Suzuki Motor Corporation's global business strategies. I am confident our Baleno would be well accepted by Japanese customers as well."

The launch of the Made in India Baleno in Tokyo was also attended by H.E. Mr. Sujan R. Chinoy, Ambassador of India to Japan. He said, "Maruti Suzuki exports to over 125 countries including those in Europe, which is proof of their quality. The model being launched today, the Baleno is a state-of-the-art car developed and manufactured in India through Suzuki's excellence. It will be exported to 100 global markets including Japan. I am confident that the Baleno will prove to be a huge success in Japan. I wish the launch complete success."

Now have some more for your tears:

They are just sitting there being unsold right? They just magically appear in the used car re-sale websites too:

https://www.japanesecartrade.com/make-model/suzuki-7-baleno-23468.html

Now compare that to your country that cannot even frigging assemble anywhere close to even 1000 vehicles for its own internal market of 170 million people (pathetic claimed size of 2.5 billion USD for entire automotive industry...2 billion of which is imported).