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Talks for Su-35, Mi-35 sales to Pakistan are underway: Russian Deputy FM

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Sour grapes . Lolz actually its the other way around. Indian potential Rafale deal has prompted Pakistan to go for a fighter plane of similar caliber since PAF hasn't recruited any major plane brand other than F16 block 52 in the last couple of decades.
here lies the catch line when WTO started pakistan could have got whatever it wanted had they not played with USA to save its interests in afghanistan but it did the opposite of what was required india took advantage from that and USA pinalised pakistan in the way it does best

now for air assets well MRCA deal was destinned to fail as it was nothing more than a kickbacks making scheme by the corrupt UPA

but when Namo took over as PM all changed but frenchies were not cooprating and wanted there investments back which they did with UPA at the expense of indian tax payers money

but when they saw they "frenchies" saw that they will loose and USA will gain from it they changed there mind now everything is on track as india wanted it to be

same goes for many russian deals even this current rumour of su-35 with pakistan was part of russian tactiks to arm twist india to get the best deals

how sucsesful were russians or indians will onli come owt after Namo,s december tour to russia till then happy dreaming and trolling :enjoy:
 
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US has been aiding pak since decades with its tech and $$. Russia could not provide any stuff in the form of aid like america, then how would you mange the $$ to get decent fleet??.

The deal would be financed by China.
 
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Bhai log indians, if we get even one flanker then i will ask PAF to bomb new delhi with a warhead of 10,000KG burnol seriously.
LOL I think PAF is showing interest they are thinking about +40
 
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With SU-35, our defensive doctrine might be changed as well.
 
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can even pack a ucav burraq full of runway destroying munitions and crash low flying radar hidden kamakazi style suicidal drones into india, provided they cant interfier and hack the transmission controls opps! okay may be its a flop idea.
bhai, plz change font
 
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Russians have started thinking in french manner.

Business is business and a cup of tea is a cup of tea. Russians have always been either friend or foe. Now they are doing business like French
French has been weapon Darling both for india and Pakistan. India and Pakistan are using french subs , weapons and fighter jets and neither india nor pakistan complaint france.

Russia should also follow this french model.

To hell with ideological friends and foes, at the end of the day it is the "Money" what matters.
 
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Russians have started thinking in french manner.

Business is business and a cup of tea is a cup of tea. Russians have always been either friend or foe. Now they are doing business like French
French has been weapon Darling both for india and Pakistan. India and Pakistan are using french subs , weapons and fighter jets and neither india nor pakistan complaint france.

Russia should also follow this french model.

To hell with ideological friends and foes, at the end of the day it is the "Money" what matters.
I think Russia will follow business laws
 
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By the time Pakistan gets Su-35 India will get PAK-FA. Pakistan is behind the curve.

From the point of Indians saying "Russia would never sell the SU-35s to Pakistan" we have arrived to the point where Indians say "Russia PAK-FA to India would be better than Russian SU-35 to Pakistan".....

What a climb down...
 
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Su-35 vs F-16 Specifications

su35cutaway.jpg

Su-35 Specifications
Fuel capacity:
11,500 kg (25,400 lb) internally
At sea level: Mach 1.15 (1,400 km/h, 870 mph)
  • Range: At altitude: 3,600 km (1,940 nmi)
At sea level: 1,580 km (850 nmi)
  • Ferry range: 4,500 km (2,430 nmi) with 2 external fuel tanks
  • Wing loading: 408 kg/m² (500.8 kg/m² with full internal fuel) (84.9 lb/ft² 50% fuel)
  • Maximum g-load: +9 g
Armament
  • Guns: 1× 30 mm GSh-301 internal cannon with 150 rounds
  • Hardpoints: 12 hardpoints, consisting of 2 wingtip rails, and 10 wing and fuselage stations with a capacity of 8,000 kg (17,630 lb) of ordnance and provisions to carry combinations of:
Avionics
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f16.jpg

F16 Block 50 Specifications
At altitude: Mach 2[2] (1,320 mph, 2,120 km/h) clean configuration
  • Combat radius: 340 mi (295 nmi, 550 km) on a hi-lo-hi mission with four 1,000 lb (450 kg) bombs
  • Ferry range: 2,280 nmi (2,620 mi, 4,220 km) with drop tanks
  • Maximum g-load: +9.0 g
Armament
Avionics
Sources: Sukhoi Su-35 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
General Dynamics F-16 Fighting Falcon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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Su-35 vs F-16 Specifications

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Su-35 Specifications
Fuel capacity:
11,500 kg (25,400 lb) internally
At sea level: Mach 1.15 (1,400 km/h, 870 mph)
  • Range: At altitude: 3,600 km (1,940 nmi)
At sea level: 1,580 km (850 nmi)
  • Ferry range: 4,500 km (2,430 nmi) with 2 external fuel tanks
  • Wing loading: 408 kg/m² (500.8 kg/m² with full internal fuel) (84.9 lb/ft² 50% fuel)
  • Maximum g-load: +9 g
Armament
  • Guns: 1× 30 mm GSh-301 internal cannon with 150 rounds
  • Hardpoints: 12 hardpoints, consisting of 2 wingtip rails, and 10 wing and fuselage stations with a capacity of 8,000 kg (17,630 lb) of ordnance and provisions to carry combinations of:
Avionics
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View attachment 258467
F16 Block 50 Specifications
At altitude: Mach 2[2] (1,320 mph, 2,120 km/h) clean configuration
  • Combat radius: 340 mi (295 nmi, 550 km) on a hi-lo-hi mission with four 1,000 lb (450 kg) bombs
  • Ferry range: 2,280 nmi (2,620 mi, 4,220 km) with drop tanks
  • Maximum g-load: +9.0 g
Armament
Avionics
Sources: Sukhoi Su-35 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
General Dynamics F-16 Fighting Falcon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


i dont think its a right time to discuss the specifications of su 35 and f 16 .. we are over reacting, i think. it is indeed a positive development but we have to wait.
 
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he he he he pakistani fantasy of indians bieng jealous on reports of Su-35 for pkaistan is like like lewis hamilton getting jelous of @qamar1990 as qamar wants to buy a merc :haha:

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And GURU jee acts like lewis and already owns a merc and try to influence manufacturer not to sell to qamar....ha ha ha

GURU jee u r from the nation which is born jealous of Pakistan's creation and that is a historical fact.
 
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From the point of Indians saying "Russia would never sell the SU-35s to Pakistan" we have arrived to the point where Indians say "Russia PAK-FA to India would be better than Russian SU-35 to Pakistan".....

What a climb down...
as i said before dont count your chickens till they hatch kya samjhe :azn:

point is just because india is buying western wepons pakistanies are dreaming russia will jeopardise its equations with india.... do you realli think russia will do that :azn:

as for pakistan its total militarry and socio economik infra is totalli dependent on USA support will USA keep quite when it sees its investnments getting neutralised by russia & china getting it for which it aided pakistan for more than half a centuarry specialli when bulk of all the assets of pakistani elite are in western nations

as they say two brids in hand are better than four in the bush .... if you know what i mean :coffee:
 
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