Taliban can never answer these question.

[Zhukov]

So, if Pakistan Army kills innocents as collatoral, what is that? The takfiris (ttp) also say its collatoral.. rest deserve to die bla bla

they hav their own stupid reasons...

So you honestly believe Pakistan Specifically Targets civilian people like TTP specifically target markets and Mosques?
And you believe Pakistan Army kills Innocents because TTP says so? thats Bright.+Sarvasm)
No pics no evidence no Nothing.
Mostly sharing Fake Pics and Videos from Syria and Afghanistan.
Bro a fund Starved Military is not stupid enough to spend Million Dollar munitions to kill innocent civilians and turn the public against them.
And people who support and give refuge to Taliban are no innocent or colleteral demage.

 

[ravindra1455]

TALBAN AUR PAKISTAN KA WAZOOD TABHI TAK HE JAB TAK UNKE PASS LADNE KE LIYE KOI DUSHMAN NAA HO. BINA DKISI DUSHMAN KE DONO KA KOI WAZZOD NAHI.

 

[Zhukov]

TALBAN AUR PAKISTAN KA WAZOOD TABHI TAK HE JAB TAK UNKE PASS LADNE KE LIYE KOI DUSHMAN NAA HO. BINA DKISI DUSHMAN KE DONO KA KOI WAZZOD NAHI.

Aur apka Wajuud Trolling tak hai :p

 

[AmnaR]

So you honestly believe Pakistan Specifically Targets civilian people like TTP specifically target markets and Mosques?
And you believe Pakistan Army kills Innocents because TTP says so? thats Bright.+Sarvasm)
No pics no evidence no Nothing.
Mostly sharing Fake Pics and Videos from Syria and Afghanistan.
Bro a fund Starved Military is not stupid enough to spend Million Dollar munitions to kill innocent civilians and turn the public against them.
And people who support and give refuge to Taliban are no innocent or colleteral demage.

I don't believe Pakistan Army kills civilians because "TTP" says so, but because I know so.. Not Intentionally of course. but high collatoral, yes! I've seen many pics/evidence and just because ISPR says we dont, doesnt mean they dont. Many instances where ISPR has been "caught" lying (and believe me, ALL armies of the world LIE)

Not everyone living in NWA gives support to TTP, yet a bomb doesnt see that. If you have seen latest videos from MirAli, you would know. I know which are from Syria and which are from here.. I can send you some, and if you prove they are from Afgh or Syria, i'll resign (not like sheikh rasheed

Fund starved? Yeah right.. (don't compare to India but rest of Pakistani institutions), you seriously think so? Where does all the CSF go, or profits from DHA, Fauji fertilizer etc? Do you know how much each soldier/captain/major etc gets? I am not complaining (my dad got it from there as well, which enables me to live the lifestyle that I do and study in LUMs etc)

So no, its not fund starved

 

[qamar1990]

Hi,

A 5 1/2 years old member on this forum must know to respect the decorum of the house----the language spoken here is english---please post your comments in english. Thank you.

is there a problem?
can anybody not understand what he wrote?
99 percent of the forum members understand what he wrote so there really shouldn't be an issue.

 

[mikkix]

I wrote This Article in simple Urdu so that it can be understood by every common man with average english. Because it is a vital issue of our national security. Please Read and share it. JazakALLAH khair.

Talibaan Issue ko yahin per Dafan kar detey hain. Kuch log mission per nikal parey hain Taliban ke tout ban kar. Baraey meharbani in baaton ko explain kar den. ya meri ye baat maan len.
Please ye Article khud bhi parhen aur Agey bhi share karen.

1-Taliban kyun Lar rahey hain Pak Foj se?
Taliban 2 wajuhaat detey hain
kehtey hain Pak Foj America kafir ki saathi hai is liey hum Pak Foj ko Maarta hai.
Aur dusri ke wo Mulk mei shariat ya Islami Nizaam Nafiz karna chahtey hain.
Jawab.
2001 se pehley to kabhi yaad nai aya ke Pakistan ka nizaam Kufar per mabni hai aur yahan Shariat ka nifaaz karna hai. Ye Paroos mei America ke aaney ke baad hi kyun yaad aya?
Ji Pakistan America ka Ittehadi hai ab se nai 1949 se hai. Baqool inke ye wohi log hain jinhonne Soviet union ke khilaaf jang lari.To Jab Pakistan ki madad se ye soviet jihaad larr rahey they tab bhi to Pakistan America ka ittehadi tha. Tab yaad nai ayi ye wajha?

2-Talibaan ke paas konsey Wasail hain Jinse wo 10 saal se dunia ki 7th Largest army se unhi ke Ghar mei lar rahey hain
Talibaan ka Jawab. Pakistan foj hmari dushman hai aur hum har source se madad ley saktey hain kyun ke hamara maqsad neik hai.(Yani CIA aur American Backed Afghan Intelligence se) Acha ji yani kafir ka ittehadi honey ki waja se hmarey khilaaf lartey ho aur hmarey khilaaf un kuffaar se madad lena bhi jaiz?(Hansney ka muqaam hai ya roney ka, pata nai)

3-Taliban ko Itni hassaas intelligence kon Provide karta hai jo wo POF Wah, GHQ, Mehraan base aur Kamra Complex jesey Areas per bhi hamla kar detey hain.
Is baat ka inke paas koi jawab nai. Yahan aesi wahyaat aur Bongi Dalilen detey hain ke hum bohat Powerfull hain aur hmarey source barey mazbuut hain(Seedha kyun nai kehtey Parosi Mulk ki Intelligence madad karti hai) yaad rahey ke Kaamra per jo Talibaan ka hamla nakaam banaya gya tha usmei dehshatgardon ke paas GPS devices mojud thin jo NATO forces use karti hain. Recovered devices un Talibaan se haasil huin jinko Phatney se pehley hi Snipers ne Maar dia tha aur wo blast nai jo paey nai to koi sabuut na milta.

4-Ye dhamakey karney Waley hum nai hain koi Tisri Taqat hai. To Mosuuf 2 baten. hum operation bhi us tisri taqat ke khilaaf kar rahey hain jo dhamakey karti hai. Aur agar Aap ke ruup mei koi jin kar jatey hain dhamakey to Ap per bombari bhi PAF nai karti koi air airforce kar jati hai PAF ka logo laga key.Agar apsey Pakistan ko koi khatra nai air Aap Masuum ibne masuum hain to kisi ka dimaagh kharaab nai aapko aewin koi bomb phenki jaey(Agar America ka name ley kar yahan safai di to wapis point number 1 aur 2 per chaley jaen)

5-Masuum Qabail per bombari hoti hai drone girtey hain jis ke badley mei wo khudkush bombaar ban jaatey hain(Itni Masuum tashreeh)
Khudkush dhamakon mei 10,000 se zyada Masum Pakistani Shaheed ho chukey hain. Un ke lakhon rishtadaaron mei se to kabhi 1 bhi banda khudkush bombaar ban ke Meraansha ja kar nai phatam Ji han 1 waqya bhi aesa nai hua. Yaqeenan aam log Qabaili Ilaqon mei maren ya Shehron mei donon ka khuun barabar hai. Lekin Khudkush hamlawar aur militant banney ke liey badley ki aag nai pura trained network, Gola Baruud ki supply, Pesa aur wasail ki zarurat hoti hai.

6-Pak foj masuum qabailion ko nishana banati hai. Jang ke doraan yaqeenan thora bohat nuqsaan muqami abadi ka bhi hota hai aur ye bohat afsoos ki baat hai(is baat se qata nazar ke ye Muqaami abaadi inhi shetanon ko dilo jaan se support karti ho air panaah detinho). Lekin Foj ka dimaagh kharaab nai ke Arbon Rupee laga kar aam shehrion ko nishana bnaey. Sar mei dimaagh ho to sochen is baat ko. Limited budget se pai pai jor kar kharidey gaey gola barood zaya nai kiey jatey.

7-Pak foj ke Jawanon ya Command post par hamla to samajh mei ata hai ji ke ye Foj hamen marti hai to hum inhe maren gey. Lekin Anti Submarine Tyarey P3C Orion Tabaah karna itni Precise Planning se, Kamrah per hamla kar ke Airborn Early Warning and control systems Saab Erye AWACS tyarey Tabaah karney ki koshish karna? ye weapon to kisi surat bhi Talibaan ke khilaaf use nai ho saktey? akhir in Weapons ko tabaah karney mei kis taqat ka faida hona tha?
(aap khud samajhdaar hain phir inka aur us taqat ka maqsad aik hai)

Agar ye sab baten parh ke bhi kisi ke dil mei koi kasar Baqi reh jati hai to uska Allah ki hafiz hai.

Maaf karna dost apka poora thesis is based on bullshit, bigger bullshit is the word called TTP. TTP word is a big deception.

 

[MastanKhan]

Friend The purpose of the Post was to simply explain some basic facts. and spread the message to every common man with any educational background.
It was to blast away the TTP Touts Propegenda. It is not the sort of discussion thread. its a message. There should not be any problem here

Sir,

Seems like you are answering to yourself and not my post----. You can translate your post in english so that the decorum of the site is respected and members can read what you want to say.

 

[MilSpec]

Hi,

A 5 1/2 years old member on this forum must know to respect the decorum of the house----the language spoken here is english---please post your comments in english. Thank you.

5 bucks says talban cannot solve a quadratic equation either.....

 

[Secret Service]

I guess taliban mainly have a religious objective and to remove all secular powers

make pakistan a strong islamic nation.

believe me they are not muslims...they dont even know the basics of islam. i have been there in Waziristan and heard from many people....they are just paid people or mercenaries..

 

[Zhukov]

I don't believe Pakistan Army kills civilians because "TTP" says so, but because I know so.. Not Intentionally of course. but high collatoral, yes! I've seen many pics/evidence and just because ISPR says we dont, doesnt mean they dont. Many instances where ISPR has been "caught" lying (and believe me, ALL armies of the world LIE)

Not everyone living in NWA gives support to TTP, yet a bomb doesnt see that. If you have seen latest videos from MirAli, you would know. I know which are from Syria and which are from here.. I can send you some, and if you prove they are from Afgh or Syria, i'll resign (not like sheikh rasheed

Fund starved? Yeah right.. (don't compare to India but rest of Pakistani institutions), you seriously think so? Where does all the CSF go, or profits from DHA, Fauji fertilizer etc? Do you know how much each soldier/captain/major etc gets? I am not complaining (my dad got it from there as well, which enables me to live the lifestyle that I do and study in LUMs etc)

So no, its not fund starved

O please. Now you are trolling the issue. Do you know the cost of a simple Dumb Bomb? or the Per sortie cost of a mirage or F7? what point are you making?
What benefit army have in spending so much money to kill civs?
What is earned from Kents and Enterprises is Enterprise profit and is Peanuts compare to arms costs. And all those expenses go to Operational Costs.
Yes Pakistan army IS funds starved . how could you possibly compare Weapons and There operation cost against kentt revenues?
Unbelieveable. Do you know all of Weapons procurement Plans upto 2020 have been put on hold because of no funds .You can never tell which are from Waziristan and which are from Afghanistan.
I told you Those who give refuge to enemies of Pakistan are no coleteral damage. So dont give this stupid logic here. What needs to be done should be done.
Apply same logic before Destroying Ammunition factory of enemy in state of war that there will be innocent kitchen staff working there.
Or before Destroying a Nuclear Silo saying there may be innocent technicians there.

 

[My-Analogous]

The Quran must be read in context, not selective quoting?

Verse 5:32



Allah is only calling upon the Jews, so this verse is not applicable to non-Jews.

Lets go to the next verse 5:33

Let the readers take the call:



According to Taliban, Pakistan army is waging war hand in glove with American Kaffiars against Allah by killing Muslims. And hence they are justified by killing PA soldiers.



It is 100% religious.


Secular is anti-Islam. Period.

This is for TTP

Al-Baqara
(83)And [recall] when We took your covenant, [saying], "Do not shed each other's blood or evict one another from your homes." Then you acknowledged [this] while you were witnessing. (84) Then, you are those [same ones who are] killing one another and evicting a party of your people from their homes, cooperating against them in sin and aggression. And if they come to you as captives, you ransom them, although their eviction was forbidden to you. So do you believe in part of the Scripture and disbelieve in part? Then what is the recompense for those who do that among you except disgrace in worldly life; and on the Day of Resurrection they will be sent back to the severest of punishment. And Allah is not unaware of what you do. (85) Those are the ones who have bought the life of this world [in exchange] for the Hereafter, so the punishment will not be lightened for them, nor will they be aided.

Islam is moderation in nature and it will support all definition and oppose as well if it is exceed its limitation. Islam support balance in every thing. So Islam support Secularism and anti Secularism also.

 

[AmnaR]

O please. Now you are trolling the issue. Do you know the cost of a simple Dumb Bomb? or the Per sortie cost of a mirage or F7? what point are you making?
What benefit army have in spending so much money to kill civs?
What is earned from Kents and Enterprises is Enterprise profit and is Peanuts compare to arms costs. And all those expenses go to Operational Costs.
Yes Pakistan army IS funds starved . how could you possibly compare Weapons and There operation cost against kentt revenues?
Unbelieveable. Do you know all of Weapons procurement Plans upto 2020 have been put on hold because of no funds .You can never tell which are from Waziristan and which are from Afghanistan.
I told you Those who give refuge to enemies of Pakistan are no coleteral damage. So dont give this stupid logic here. What needs to be done should be done.
Apply same logic before Destroying Ammunition factory of enemy in state of war that there will be innocent kitchen staff working there.
Or before Destroying a Nuclear Silo saying there may be innocent technicians there.

People working in the SABZI MANDI of the MirAli Bazaar were selling BOMBS to TALIBAN? Or the 28 people of a family killed, none of whom was terrorist, were they TECHNICIANS OF TALIBAN ? GET out of your closet.

The COST OF BOMBS dropped in Waziristan is FUNDED BY USA. Please do and lookup coalition support fund and the billions of dollars we got for it!

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And if they are shelteting terrorists, why does ARMY has a peace accord with TTP in some areas (e.g. with Gul Bahadur?)
and as per latest sources, ARMY has convinced people NOT to leave their homes.. So much for operation!

 

[AmnaR]

This is for TTP

Al-Baqara
(83)And [recall] when We took your covenant, [saying], "Do not shed each other's blood or evict one another from your homes." Then you acknowledged [this] while you were witnessing. (84) Then, you are those [same ones who are] killing one another and evicting a party of your people from their homes, cooperating against them in sin and aggression. And if they come to you as captives, you ransom them, although their eviction was forbidden to you. So do you believe in part of the Scripture and disbelieve in part? Then what is the recompense for those who do that among you except disgrace in worldly life; and on the Day of Resurrection they will be sent back to the severest of punishment. And Allah is not unaware of what you do. (85) Those are the ones who have bought the life of this world [in exchange] for the Hereafter, so the punishment will not be lightened for them, nor will they be aided.

Islam is moderation in nature and it will support all definition and oppose as well if it is exceed its limitation. Islam support balance in every thing. So Islam support Secularism and anti Secularism also.

BS. Islam supports Secularism? Please go and read the defination of Secularism before giving such stupid statements. As far as your Quran quote is concerned, I am no alim, but Takfiri TTP quotes more Quran and Hadees for what they do! For example see this video (

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=795696423781460&set=vb.790596750958094&type=2&theater

the takfiri uzbek terrorists showing dead pakistani soldiers and doing a "waaz" in arabic with quran/hadees and all etc

(tell me aftr u hav seen the video, i'll del the link as sharing these videos is not allowed)

 

[My-Analogous]

BS. Islam supports Secularism? Please go and read the defination of Secularism before giving such stupid statements. As far as your Quran quote is concerned, I am no alim, but Takfiri TTP

Before comment you should have knowledge about topics and you already stated that you are not Aalim (not knowledgeable) and even then you stated that my statement is stupid can you tell me how my statement is wrong?. Before i am given you my link that you understand Islam & Secularism two thing you must understand

1. Respect and don't use bad word that later in your life become regardable
2. Don't thing who is saying think what he/she is saying (Hazrat Ali R.A)

Islam & Secularism Part 1of4 - Dr. Zakir Naik - TubeIslam - ShareIslam Video Site
Untitled Document

Bottomline: as i said it before Islam support Secularism and as well as oppose Secularism.