T-84 oplot M fails testing what now for the army, in terms of tanks?

[masud]

 

[waz]

The tank failed as per reports from reliable forum members. Pakistan will be probably looking elsewhere. Thread closed.

 

[Lavrentiy]

Wesay testing new tanks aren't state secrets. it is Pakistan army which is in habit of maintaining trivial things as state secrets. One has to take an example of american weapon programs, F-22, F-35, Laser Programs, Even the super duper X-37

They actually don't want transparency so that they can hide their corruption.

Military would never ever agree to civilian oversight. They wouldn't even let you audit their kitchen expenses let alone weapons programs.

There is no state secret about a tank which is just an ordinary weapon.

 

[Zarvan]

They actually don't want transparency so that they can hide their corruption.

Military would never ever agree to civilian oversight. They wouldn't even let you audit their kitchen expenses let alone weapons programs.

There is no state secret about a tank which is just an ordinary weapon.

Army hardly has any corruption in it. As for topic I think we are not in much hurry so yes we would test other Tanks but we would 6 months to see if Ukraine can meet its promise and sort out engine problem @Bratva

 

[Lavrentiy]

Army hardly has any corruption in it.

 

[Capt.Popeye]

The oplot M has failed along with the Chinese tanks as both their engines seized during trials. Now the Ukrainians are claiming they will be bringing new engine via sea which will take 6 Months.

Six month to come as freight from Ukraine by sea....... is it gonna come by a Sailing Ship like a Dhow or something....

 

[Icarus]

They actually don't want transparency so that they can hide their corruption.

Military would never ever agree to civilian oversight. They wouldn't even let you audit their kitchen expenses let alone weapons programs.

There is no state secret about a tank which is just an ordinary weapon.

Every unit in the Army undergoes three routine rounds of audit under civilian auditors, kindly learn a thing or two before mouthing off. The level of transparency in the Army is such that my unit was once subject to additional audit after an auditor reported that the unit actually spent 11,000 rupees less than it was supposed to have spent, the discrepancy was later found to be due to the booking of train carriages where one carriage had been cancelled as some sepoys rode tank transporters on the way back rather than taking the train, and the cancellation did not make it on paper.

As for your comment about a tank being 'just an ordinary weapon', you clearly know nothing of the importance of armour in a country's arsenal and about the importance of not announcing what you intend to induct in over a decade's time so that its advantage is lost completely before it is even brought into service. The only reason these leaks are making onto the forum is because they are 10% fact and 90% guesswork.

 

[Zarvan]

Yes some crazy and out of their mind people laugh like you do but that is a fact Armed Forces have hardly any corruption because of strong accountability but supporters of corrupt like you are to blind to see

 

[Blue Marlin]

We should test South Korean K-2. As for AK-2 pics friend says you get and post at least one picture he would than even post pics from inside AK-2. @Icarus @balixd

there are too heavy, it's similar to the turkish altay tank

Head up brother, let's see what happens. There is Turkey, China could put forward another solution etc.

the turkish altay tank is the best option for Pakistan as it incorporates some of the best tech in the world. and turkey and pakistan being very good friends a deal can be done. also this is a good idea as Pakistan reputation would attract other countries to buy the tank as well. same thing with the anka and the t129. turkey has some of the best tech, use it or lose it.

pakistan should be independent and resist US incentives. as they only hold short term advantages. and build its own industry, so it can develop it own weapons. or it can intragate the tech with other systems. example turkish systems in the Chinese z10 chopper.

 

[Zarvan]

there are too heavy, it's similar to the turkish altay tank


the turkish altay tank is the best option for Pakistan as it incorporates some of the best tech in the world. and turkey and pakistan being very good friends a deal can be done. also this is a good idea as Pakistan reputation would attract other countries to buy the tank as well. same thing with the anka and the t129. turkey has some of the best tech, use it or lose it.

pakistan should be independent and resist US incentives. as they only hold short term advantages. and build its own industry, so it can develop it own weapons. or it can intragate the tech with other systems. example turkish systems in the Chinese z10 chopper.

No Korean K-2 is 56 Tonnes but Altay is 65 tonnes

 

[Blue Marlin]

No Korean K-2 is 56 Tonnes but Altay is 65 tonnes

if you got deep enough pockets to buy a few thousand then go for it but make sure you get tot as thats important. tell that to your sources. some good advice right there.

No Korean K-2 is 56 Tonnes but Altay is 65 tonnes

why did the t-84 fail testing what caused it? to fail/not meet requirements

 

[Zarvan]

if you got deep enough pockets to buy a few thousand then go for it but make sure you get tot as thats important. tell that to your sources. some good advice right there.


why did the t-84 fail testing what caused it? to fail/not meet requirements

The engine has some issues other than that a great Tank. So Pakistan may weight so Ukraine can sort out engine problem

 

[Blue Marlin]

The tank failed as per reports from reliable forum members. Pakistan will be probably looking elsewhere. Thread closed.

the thread is still open. #fail

 

[Magi Brahmin]

47 pages ki Nautanki.
stop behaving like us, we have copyright on delaying defence projects :p

 

[graphican]

47 pages ki Nautanki.
stop behaving like us, we have copyright on delaying defence projects :p

No not even close. We do not have supernatural expectations from OEMs. This thread started on 11th of July and within a month we reached a result. Don't compare your failures with this engine failure.. your failures deserve "hanging ovation" for its members.