T-80 and T-84 Main Battle Tanks Information pool

[Gryphon]

The way I see it is buy T-80Us and switch the engines. Use the old engine as a generator. Korean Us are reasonable fighting machines, nothing else needs to be changed.

IIRC, the first 145× T-80UD's with PA came with Soviet 2A46M-1, cast turret and 1000hp Ukrainian diesel.

The remaining 175 came with KBA-3 (Ukrainian 2A46M-1 copy) and welded turret from T-84.

Your idea is good, only if pursued at a larger scale (500-1000 pcs).

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Ukrainian tank spotted at U.S. Army Yuma Proving Ground
by Dylan Malyasov




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A satellite image has recently emerged on military online forums showing what appears to be Soviet-era T-72 main battle tanks at U.S. Army Yuma Proving Grounds, one of the largest military installations in the world.

The military expert from Nowa Technika Wojskowa, Damian Ratka drew attention that the Ukrainian T-80U also stood in line with Soviet main battle tanks.

”Well look what I have found. At Yuma Proving Grounds, among many T-72’s stored there, I found one of the 4 purchased by the U.S. from Ukraine in 2004 T-80UD/T-84 tanks,” Ratka said on Twitter.


In 2003, the U.S. Government obtained four T-80UD main battle tanks from Ukraine. The four T-80UD tanks arrived at the U.S. Army Aberdeen Test Center throughout December 2003 and January 2004.

The T-80UD is a Ukrainian variant of a T-80U main battle tank, fitted with a diesel engine in place of the high performance gas turbine. Also, this version of the tank is equipped with the Knife explosive reactive armour (ERA).

About 500 T-80UD tanks were built in the Malyshev plant in Kharkiv between 1987 and 1999. Pakistan, countering India’s adoption of the Russian T-90, bought almost 320 Ukrainian T-80UDs for its main armoured corps of the Pakistani Army.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1243942381864525824

@Signalian

Or maybe try to figure out how to counter Pakistani T80UD

We(Pakistan) is definitely on American hitlist. To think otherwise would be madness.

 

[HRK]

Or maybe try to figure out how to counter Pakistani T80UD

We(Pakistan) is definitely on American hitlist. To think otherwise would be madness.

If I remember correctly its an old story, US received Russian T-80 after fall of Berlin wall from Germany and T-80UD from Ukraine during late 90s or first half of 2000

 

[Dazzler]

IIRC, the first 145× T-80UD's with PA came with Soviet 2A46M-1, cast turret and 1000hp Ukrainian diesel.

The remaining 175 came with KBA-3 (Ukrainian 2A46M-1 copy) and welded turret from T-84.

Your idea is good, only if pursued at a larger scale (500-1000 pcs).

History of KBA3 smoothbore is interesting. Ukraine acquired license and gun blanks from Giat (now Nexter) in 1997. Blanks were made of high strength electroslag remelting steel (ESR). Essentially, the gun uses the same blanks used to manufacture Leclerc's 120mm gun. In general, the quality of KBA3 is on par with 2A46M-5.

Pakistan also imported the same metal blanks from France for Alkhalid's main gun till we acquired the tech to produce them locally. Barrel life exceeds 1100 EFC which is remarkable. Both guns are 48 cal.

https://www.dawn.com/news/621771

 

[Armchair]

IIRC, the first 145× T-80UD's with PA came with Soviet 2A46M-1, cast turret and 1000hp Ukrainian diesel.

The remaining 175 came with KBA-3 (Ukrainian 2A46M-1 copy) and welded turret from T-84.

Your idea is good, only if pursued at a larger scale (500-1000 pcs).

Check out my article on Quwa about PA tanks. I've outlined that there are a number of sources from which PA could get them. The latter welded turrets were not asked for but PA got them because Ukraine were not able to source and had to go with their in production welded turrets. There are a bunch of sources for T-80s, all willing to sell possibly at bargain basement prices.

 

[Waterboy]

Sleeping Beasts.

 

[syed_yusuf]

if camparing t80ud to t-90 of IA, which platform is better

 

[Dazzler]

if camparing t80ud to t-90 of IA, which platform is better

Better than 90S, should be on par with 90M, not MS.

 

[syed_yusuf]

Better than 90S, should be on par with 90M, not MS.

is this the reason why PA is upgrading T-80
is AK on par or better than MS?

 

[Bossman]

A lot of interesting activity going on at HIT. A whole bunch of containers being delivered. They are assembling something new, using a new facility not used for AK production or upgrading other tanks. Remember, although AK is an indigenous tank, we have also been assembling tanks since the T69. HIT could be locally assembling a tank of foreign origin along with producing the AK and upgrading other tanks.

 

[mingle]

A lot of interesting activity going on at HIT. A whole bunch of new containers being delivered. They are assembling something new, using a new facility not used for AK production or upgrading other tanks. Remember, although AK is an indigenous tank, we have been assembling tanks since the T69. HIT could be locally assembling a tank of foreign origin along with producing the AK.

VT-4 probably

 

[Dazzler]

is this the reason why PA is upgrading T-80
is AK on par or better than MS?

T90 or not, upgrading a 30 year old system makes sense.

Ak-1 should be equal to MS considering the featureset of both.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

T90 or not, upgrading a 30 year old system makes sense.

Ak-1 should be equal to MS considering the featureset of both.

What about Ak-1 and Arjun MK1A?

 

[Dazzler]

What about Ak-1 and Arjun MK1A?

Not even in Frontline service

A lot of interesting activity going on at HIT. A whole bunch of new containers being delivered. They are assembling something new, using a new facility not used for AK production or upgrading other tanks. Remember, although AK is an indigenous tank, we have been assembling tanks since the T69. HIT could be locally assembling a tank of foreign origin along with producing the AK.

HIT had plans to move to robotics since 2015, may be it has something to do with that? Chief of tank manufacturing factory mentioned it in a program.

 

[Lone Ranger]

HIT had plans to move to robotics since 2015, may be it has something to do with that? Chief of tank manufacturing factory mentioned it in a program.

Is there any plans to increase the production capacity?