Syrian Civil War (Graphic Photos/Vid Not Allowed)

[al-Hasani]

Fully agree with you.Just hope that the regime forces win some how,no matter how much atrocities Mr Assad has committed.I'm saying this because there is in no way on earth that the so called 'moderate' FSA (which I highly doubt) coming on top..............not by a long shot.They have already been weakened to almost bare bone by both the regime and other rebel factions,most notably by the ISIS itself.And if the ISIS emerges victorious i this civil war,then all bets are off for Syrian people,goodbye to their secularism and free way of life as they practice now.

You are mistaken. You hoping for Al-Assad victory is a good solution when the alternative is ISIS but it's not the right solution. On their own you would probably not want either of those two to rule Syria. They need a third way.

Countries go through circles. Once the Arab world was very secular when it was influenced by Arab nationalism (the socialist form) and now there has been some sort of Islamist revival but signs are showing that it will go the other way. I believe that the middle path is the right solution as long as people in the ME are not as politically mature as Europeans. It took Europeans several centuries as well to mature democratically. It was much, much more bloody than the ME.

 

[-SINAN-]

We are not interested in Turkey here as you are comparing almost 80 million big Turkey (NATO member for over 60 years) with 10 million big UAE.

If you are not interested in Turkey why you are meantioning Turkey's name in your post ???

UAE whose economy is half the size of Turkey's gets 70% of its income not from oil but other sectors.

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[Alienoz_TR]

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[al-Hasani]

Hahahaha
You mean the coffe? Its Gevalia

I meant "fandens svenskere" translated into Swedish (Thank you Google translate) it says this:

"jävla svenskar"

Not Gevalia, LOL But I could drink some coffee now as well.

If you are not interested in Turkey why you are meantioning Turkey's name in your post ???



Source: Syrian Civil War (Graphic Photos/Vid Not Allowed) | Page 102

You showed me the diversification of Turkish economy. I was not interested in that. I used UAE in a comparison with Turkey in terms of the size of their economies. I already know about the diversification of the Turkish economy. You have posted it several times before and many other Turkish members. Whether you sell potatoes, clothes or oil country x or y has a certain size of its economy and I was just interested in that.

 

[ResurgentIran]

I meant "fandens svenskere" translated into Swedish (Thank you Google translate) it says this:

"jävla svenskar"

Not Gevalia, LOL But I could drink some coffee now as well.



You showed me the diversification of Turkish economy. I was not interested in that. I used UAE in a comparison with Turkey in terms of the size of their economies. I already know about the diversification of the Turkish economy. You have posted it several times before and many other Turkish members. Whether you sell potatoes, clothes or oil country x or y has a certain size of its economy and I am just interested in that.

Oh snap

Yeah it would be jävla svenskar (damn swedes) haha
And here I was thinking about coffee. LOL

 

[Omega007]

You are mistaken. You hoping for Al-Assad victory is a good solution when the alternative is ISIS but it's not the right solution. On their own you would probably not want either of those two to rule Syria. They need a third way.

Countries go through circles. Once the Arab world was very secular when it was influenced by Arab nationalism (the socialist form) and now there has been some sort of Islamist revival but signs are showing that it will go the other way. I believe that the middle path is the right solution as long as people in the ME are not as politically mature as Europeans. It took European several centuries as well to mature democratically. France is a great example. So is Denmark.

Fair enough,in a ideal situation,I would want a third entity to govern Syria (what's left of it) but is there really any other option at the table right now??Even if someone is elected other than Al-Assad,where is the assurance he would not go down the same way of incompetence as Maliki??And if God forbid something like that happens,then it will become Syrian shitstorm 2.0 in the making.That is why I think one should not just rush to remove Assad from power without stabilizing the situation on ground to a more tolerable degree.Then you can hold an election under the watch of UN or NATO or anyone else and the Syrian people could choose a suitable leader to govern them.But till that time comes,Al-Assad is the best bet among all the options available at the moment.

 

[al-Hasani]

Oh snap

Yeah it would be jävla svenskar (damn swedes) haha
And here I was thinking about coffee. LOL

Swedish seems very close to Danish. I can grasp surprisingly quite a lot. I study with some Swedes from Malmoe so I have picked some Swedish slurs up. I have to say that Swedish girls are better looking than Danish girls. Just a bit. Oh, and Sweden has more people of non-Swedish origin (from Arabs, Iranians, Latinos (you guys have surprisingly many Chileans, what's up with that, LOL) and most of them tend to be good looking!

 

[-SINAN-]

You showed me the diversification of Turkish economy. I was not interested in that. I used UAE in a comparison with Turkey in terms of the size of their economies. I already know about the diversification of the Turkish economy. You have posted it several times before and many other Turkish members. Whether you sell potatoes, clothes or oil country x or y has a certain size of its economy and I was just interested in that.

So you are saying, a small country like UAE has 1/3 of GDP your gdp ? Or what are you trying to say i don't understand ?

 

[al-Hasani]

Fair enough,in a ideal situation,I would want a third entity to govern Syria (what's left of it) but is there really any other option at the table right now??Even if someone is elected other than Al-Assad,where is the assurance he would not go down the same way of incompetence as Maliki??And if God forbid something like that happens,then it will become Syrian shitstorm 2.0 in the making.That is why I think one should not just rush to remove Assad from power without stabilizing the situation on ground to a more tolerable degree.Then you can hold an election under the watch of UN or NATO or anyone else and the Syrian people could choose a suitable leader to govern them.But till that time comes,Al-Assad is the best bet among all the options available at the moment.

Seriously mate, can it be any worse? Does Assad really have the necessary legitimacy to continue? Really? The UN wants him gone, most of the Arab League wants him gone, Turkey, West etc. It's a hard grew to be up against. Even China is not that supportive anymore. They don't seem to care much other than taking the Russian side. Russia itself is more worried about Ukraine etc.

So you are saying, a small country like UAE has 1/3 of GDP your gdp ? Or what are you trying to say i don't understand ?

I am saying that small UAE, which largely has an economy not made up by oil/gas, has 1/3 of the economic size of 80 million big Turkey. It was a reply to that troll who talked about the GCC when oil/gas/natural resources run out in 300 years. All those countries are ongoing industrialization and for each year their economies are getting more diversified. It's an enviable process. As some of the stupid laws change women, who are barely contributing to the economy (over half of the population) will also boost the economy a lot. The GCC is no pushover. On its own it has a GDP almost the size of 2 trillion US dollars. It will only grow. It already grows with about 4% yearly.

 

[ResurgentIran]

Swedish seems very close to Danish. I can grasp surprisingly quite a lot. I study with some Swedes from Malmoe so I have picked some Swedish slurs up. I have to say that Swedish girls are better looking than Danish girls. Just a bit. Oh, and Sweden has more people of non-Swedish origin (from Arabs, Iranians, Latinos (you guys have surprisingly many Chileans, what's up with that, LOL) and most of them tend to be good looking!

Yeah Sweden is known for its tolerant immigration policy. We accept a lot of refugees, which would explain the Chileans (because of Pinochet back in the day).
And also lot of people from Middle East, as you said. They are very successful in Sweden.

 

[al-Hasani]

Yeah Sweden is known for its tolerant immigration policy. We accept a lot of refugees, which would explain the Chileans (because of Pinochet back in the day).
And also lot of people from Middle East, as you said. They are very successful in Sweden.

I have heard that there is a HUGE Assyrian community and that they tend to be quite successful. Sweden has an extremely liberal immigration policy. I think I once read that this is due to the fact that so many Swedes themselves migrated to the US 200-100 years ago due to poverty and even famines so they are very flexible when other people in need want to enter the country. Sweden also saved the Danish Jews from the Nazis during WW2. I mean they took many in as migrants despite being neutral during WW2. I like the country actually. The salary is just lower than in Denmark (by quite a big margin IMO) but on the other hand CARS are much cheaper. Denmark probably has the highest taxes when it comes to cars. It's crazy. But you know this already probably.

Anyway to stay on topic then what do you think about my talk with @Omega007 ? What's your opinion now?

Anyway I should leave PDF for now. Take care.

 

[-SINAN-]

I am saying that small UAE, which largely has an economy not made up by oil/gas, has 1/3 of the economic size of 80 million big Turkey. It was a reply to that troll who talked about the GCC when oil/gas/natural resources run out in 300 years. All those countries are ongoing industrialization and for each year their economies are getting more diversified. It's an enviable process. As some of the stupid laws change women, who are barely contributing to the economy (over half of the population) will also boost the economy a lot. The GCC is no pushover. On its own it has a GDP almost the size of 2 trillion US dollars. It will only grow. It already grows with about 4% yearly.

mate, i already showed you, UEA's %70 economy made up by natural resources in my previous post.... i don't think UAE or it's economy which relies on heavily on it's natural resources is comparable for Turkey..... Also it applies to almost all of the GCC countries. I don't see any Industrialization or diversity....maybe you see..... i won't argue with you over that....

KSA:

Qatar:

Oman

Yemen:

Algeria:

Kuwait:

 

[Omega007]

Seriously mate, can it be any worse? Does Assad really have the necessary legitimacy to continue? Really? The UN wants him gone, most of the Arab League wants him gone, Turkey, West etc. It's a hard grew to be up against. Even China is not that supportive anymore. They don't seem to care much other than taking the Russian side. Russia itself is more worried about Ukraine etc.

But who else??you name one and then we can have talk.It doesn't matter as much who wants what as what do you actually have.Like I said,it would be foolish to do anything rash at this juncture.Let the situation stabilize first,then you can have a leader of your choosing.But right now,it isn't in the best interest of Syrian people to prematurely remove Assad from power before crushing the Islamic extremists to a bare minimum.You think that just removing Assad from power will solve all the problems,that the extremists will simply move away after that??Sorry to say but it doesn't work like that.These guys,these so called Peace Fighters are nothing but a bunch of power hungry thugs;all they want is to seize the control and the common men be damned.They don't give a flying f*ck about the people.

So like I said,the Syrian people have every right to seek another leader,someone other than Assad,but the time isn't ripe yet.

 

[ResurgentIran]

I have heard that there is a HUGE Assyrian community and that they tend to be quite successful. Sweden has an extremely liberal immigration policy. I think I once read that this is due to the fact that so many Swedes themselves migrated to the US 200-100 years ago due to poverty and even famines so they are very flexible when other people in need want to enter the country. Sweden also saved the Danish Jews from the Nazis during WW2. I mean they took many in as migrants despite being neutral during WW2. I like the country actually. The salary is just lower than in Denmark (by quite a big margin IMO) but on the other hand CARS are much cheaper. Denmark probably has the highest taxes when it comes to cars. It's crazy. But you know this already probably.

Anyway to stay on topic then what do you think about my talk with @Omega007 ? What's your opinion now?

Anyway I should leave PDF for now. Take care.

Yeah owning a car in Denmark is not an option for me. Its too expensive. Not just the car, but all the extra taxes and shit.
I wont stay here for much longer anyway, as I will be heading back to Sweden when I am done with university and KBU (klinisk basisudannelse).
But I badly want a car though.

For now I have to commute

 

[al-Hasani]

@Sinan

Mate, I do not think that those data are entirely correct. From which year are they from? What's the source? They don't correspondent to the local data and sources fully.

You can check out the "KSA Economy & News" thread and see many local articles and other international articles that show that the non-oil/gas/natural resources sector of KSA now contributes to around 45-50% of the total GDP (nominal). Not 77% by any means.

IIF forecasts strong growth prospects for GCC countries | GulfNews.com

Who said anything about comparable? You must have misunderstood what I wrote. I meant that 10 million big UAE, of which large parts of its economy have nothing to do with natural resources, have an economy that is only 3 times smaller than 80 million big Turkey.

The GCC as a whole has a GDP (nominal) close to 2 trillion US dollar as of 2014. Almost 3 times Turkey. And it's not our fault that we are rich in natural resources. Russia is that too and dozens of other countries. Yet their economy is as it is.

Our non-oil/gas sector grows at a rapid speed despite many moronic laws and women (half of the workforce) still contributing FAR to little.

Yeah owning a car in Denmark is not an option for me. Its too expensive. Not just the car, but all the extra taxes and shit.
I wont stay here for much longer anyway, as I will be heading back to Sweden when I am done with university and KBU (klinisk basisudannelse).
But I badly want a car though.

For now I have to commute

Well, I use a car from France. But it's illegal to use it here without registration (you need to pay a tax for it to be legal) so I can't drive around too much but it's a quite decent car. Shhh... Buying a car in Denmark would be a idiotic move indeed. I just use public transport (metro) as it is great. Or trains. So I don't complain. Whenever I want to visit France or some other European country I just take the car and visit family or friends or whatever. Sometimes just a plight. It's 1.5 hours to Paris and London. Sometimes I go to Germany to buy certain foods as it is much cheaper. Been in Sweden for the same purpose. Many Danes do it as well. It's legal though, LOL.