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Rebels shot down MiG-21 that bombed Kafr Nabudah in N. Hama, pilot killed


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Apparently with MANPADS. If it is confirmed that was first MANPADS use for more than a year.
 
Rebels shot down MiG-21 that bombed Kafr Nabudah in N. Hama, pilot killed


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Apparently with MANPADS. If it is confirmed that was first MANPADS use for more than a year.

Is this how US and allies are planning to solve the conflict? By arming rebels with manpads during cease fire? And they are sending clear message to Russia here. They throw a fit if Iran sends weapons to Hezbollah, but they supply shoulder fired anti-aircraft missiles to a group that put alawite civilians in a cage.

Now I'm not bashing pro-Syrian opposition Syrian or Arab folks. I'm just pointing out the double standard US and it's allies have. They have no issue supplying militant groups with advanced weapons.
 
Is this how US and allies are planning to solve the conflict? By arming rebels with manpads during cease fire?
Its not US. If MANPADS confirmed that's most probably Saudi/Turk supply.

And they are sending clear message to Russia here. They throw a fit if Iran sends weapons to Hezbollah, but they supply shoulder fired anti-aircraft missiles to a group that put alawite civilians in a cage.
Hezbollah has all possible weapons from anti-ship missiles to ballistic missiles.

Now I'm not bashing pro-Syrian opposition Syrian or Arab folks. I'm just pointing out the double standard US and it's allies have. They have no issue supplying militant groups with advanced weapons.
Weapon supplies to Syrian rebels are extremely minor compare to Iran weapons supplies to Hezbollah, Russia weapon supplies to Donbass separatists, weapon supplies to Afghan Mujahideen in 1980es and so on.
 
I ts not US. If MANPADS confirmed that's most probably Saudi/Turk supply.


Hezbollah has all kind of weapons from anti-ship missiles to ballistic missiles.


Weapon supplies to Syrian rebels are extremely minor compare to Iran weapons supplies to Hezbollah, Russia weapon supplies to Donbass separatists, weapon supplies to Afghan Mujahideen in 1980es and so on.

They have more anti-tank weapons than some of armies around the world, and you call this minor. Turkey and Saudi Arabia won't do anything without US green light. Because this will have repercussions with Russia, they need US political backing in this move. Had Russia not been present, they wouldn't arm them with manpads as it would threaten Israel. They would just supply machine gun anti-aircraft weapon. This shows the hypocrisy and double standard by certain people.

It's dirty move to do this during cease fire during which supposedly a solution is being negotiated.
 
They have more anti-tank weapons than some of armies around the world, and you call this minor.
Rebels fired some 1000 ATGMs in 5 years. Any normal army will fire that amount in two days of battles.

This is pro-Russian separatist artillery in Ukraine:

This is Syrian rebel arillery:

Hope u got the difference.

Turkey and Saudi Arabia won't do anything without US green light.
Unlike Jordan, Turkey and KSA have some independent policies. Thats why in 2015 there were hundreds of TOWs in North Syria and almost none in South.

Had Russia not been present, they wouldn't arm them with manpads as it would threaten Israel.
So far only 1 unconfirmed MANPADS launch in nearly half year of Russia bombings. Thats nothing. In 2012-2013 were much more MANPADS launches.

It's dirty move to do this during cease fire during which supposedly a solution is being negotiated.
Russia and Assad did not stop bombings for a second. I remind u that MiG-21 was shot down while dropping unguided bombs on a village with civilians.
 
So why not go to Syria and help the poor rebels ?

The problem is they do. They drop weapons, supplies, oil, money into this place for years. In huge loads. Even TOWs or devirates supplied by SA and Turkey are used like cheap RPGs on any little protected target like they have an endless supply. They pass logistics from outside. Half of Syrias neighbourhood are very obviously partly openly housing and aiding "moderate" terrorists waging war against Syria. They don't just encourage their crimes and give them political backup.

There would be no uprising by militants and terrorists without their help.
 
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The former UN and Arab League envoy to Syria says the country's military conflict could have been resolved as early as 2012 if all the participants had talked to Russia back then, as Moscow had a more realistic analysis of the situation on the ground.





Lakhdar Brahimi, the former United Nations and Arab League Special Envoy to Syria (2012-2014) is convinced that the war in Syria could have been resolved back in 2012 if all the parties to the conflict had listened to Russia.


“One has to say that the Russians had a much more realistic analysis of the situation there than practically everyone else,” he said in an interview with Al Jazeera.

“And perhaps everybody should have talked and listened to them a little bit more than they did. They knew what the situation was. There was a possibility to end the conflict back in 2012 if everybody really had a more sophisticated analysis and better understanding of what was happening in Syria.”

The former diplomat explained that all the parties involved fell victim to a very superficial analysis of the situation.

“Remember the Arab Spring: the President of Tunisia, where it all started, fell in about three weeks, the president of Egypt fell in even less than that. It was taken for granted that the government in Damascus would collapse in no time,” he explained.



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Lakhdar Brahimi said more than once that the Muslim world had betrayed Syria. And not only the Muslim world – the entire world, he added.


“What did the Americans do, what did the French do? What did the British do? Nobody helped the Syrians. They kept repeating the same slogans: one was that Assad should go, the other one – everybody is a terrorist.”

The former politician, however, explained that Daesh (ISIL/ISIS) “has not come from the planet Mars.” It is an Iraqi organization. It has very few Syrians, even in Syria, in its ranks. It is an Iraqi organization “that has flourished on the back of the marginalization of the Sunnis in Iraq.”

“The government of Iraq and the people who support the government of Iraq – Iran and the US – have got to understand that al-Qaeda was brought to Iraq by the invasion of Iraq by the US,” he further explained.

“There were no good guys in the Syrian tragedy and I would also put a lot of blame on the outside forces: the forces, governments and others, who were supporting one side or the other,” he added.



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“None of these countries had [the] interests of the Syrian people as [their] first priority. The interests of the Syrian people were, at best, in second place,” he regretted.


Similar claims appeared in autumn of 2015 when many western media sources claimed that former Finnish president and Nobel peace prize laureate Martti Ahtisaari said that more than three years ago. Russia proposed that Syria’s President Assad could step down as part of a peace deal.

Martti Ahtisaari then stated that “Western powers failed to seize on the proposal.”



Read more: Syrian War Could Have Ended in 2012 if West Had Listened to Russia
 
Why can't Russia ask Asad to step down now? Better late than never. I'm sure everybody will be too happy to listen.
 
RT's Lizzie Phelan reported after escaping from the scene. Journalists might have been the target of the attack, an accompanying military official said.
"Two mortars [were] fired from opposition turf near where we were filming," Phelan said, reporting from the area close to the border with Jordan.

A mortar shell hit a building near to where RT journalists were working.

No injuries have been reported following the incident.

"We were in the streets of Daraa city talking to local people five years since the war began, and our work there was cut short when a mortar was fired from opposition territory, landing on a building very close to us," Phelan told RT by phone shortly after the incident.

The crew had to cut short the interview, get into the car and leave the area.

"Just a few seconds after we got into the car, another mortar landed in the same area," she said.

"The general in charge of the area believes that the attack was a targeted attack," the RT reporter said, adding that although there is no confirmation to prove or deny this allegation, the military official said that the area where RT was filming "is very rarely targeted by mortars."

"He believes that local people who support the opposition called fighters on the other side of the frontline to say that there was a media crew in the area," Phelan said, adding that according to the general "the opposition doesn't like media filming in government-held territories."

"We were somewhat successful," she added, saying that the crew managed to escape the scene and quickly get to Damascus.

RT crew comes under fire while filming in Daraa city, Syria — RT News
 
Why can't Russia ask Asad to step down now? Better late than never. I'm sure everybody will be too happy to listen.

I don't think the Russians will have any prob is asking him to step down. And for long time peace of syira that is what Assad should do.

But when we look at Iraq & Libya, one should question who will be there to take his place and how effective it would be. Saddam had no viable replacement and its been more then a decade and Iraqis are still at war among each other. LIbya was a modern country and now its in ruins.

So before asking or removing assad it should be made sure that Syria doesn't ends like Iraq or Libya, but prb is it has already ended like that.
 
GENEVA (Sputnik) — The head of the Syrian government delegation at the intra-Syrian talks in Geneva said on Sunday it was premature to speak about a transitional period for Syria, as the UN-brokered talks are about to resume.



"This discussion will come at appropriate time," Bashar Jaafari told reporters.

The fresh round of intra-Syrian talks is expected to start on Monday morning at the UN headquarters in Geneva, Switzerland.

Earlier on Sunday, UN Special Envoy for Syria Staffan De Mistura paid courtesy visits to the delegations of both the Syrian government and the opposition and outlined the program for the talks.



Read more: Geneva Damascus Delegation Head Says Early to Speak of Transitional Period
 
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