Surgical strike was fake, we lost conventional deterrence against Pakistan, India not ready for war

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

How much is your fuel reserves. Do you have money to buy fuel. War is a very fuel hungry activity.

We have more than enough money for fuel and H-bombs/Thermonuclear weapons.........:

http://isis-online.org/isis-reports...nuclear-weapons-time-for-pakistan-to-rever/12

I think he is a military analyst, he understands quiet alot. So lets say india builds its force in next 3 to 5 years... What are we pakistaniz doing? We need to keep the balance... We have no money at the moments while india can spend like 500 billion $ on its armed forces in next 5 years we need atpeast 250 billion $ worth of investment in our military machine sadly we don't even have half of that money..

We need to take care of pakistani economy and raise atleast 100 billion $ for the army in next 3 years pronto!

WHERE is the evidence for your claims? Where is the evidence that india is going to spend $500 billion on it's military? You are throwing out figures without proof.

 

[Sine Nomine]

India has completed Kaveri engine and it can have 52kN dry and 81kN wet thrust.

As for open sources are concerned,kaveri is pretty much on ventilators.
https://m.economictimes.com/news/de...eri-jet-engine-crash/articleshow/70684809.cms
https://swarajyamag.com/defence/why-the-kaveri-engine-programme-is-failing-to-take-off

 

[Smarana Mitra]

As for open sources are concerned,kaveri is pretty much on ventilators.
https://m.economictimes.com/news/de...eri-jet-engine-crash/articleshow/70684809.cms
https://swarajyamag.com/defence/why-the-kaveri-engine-programme-is-failing-to-take-off

These open sources are fake news without any basis.

DRDO chief has said that Kaveri is complete but it is not having enough thrust for LCA :
http://forceindia.net/interview/sec...development-organisation-dr-g-satheesh-reddy/

This means that LCA gets 85kN from F404 but Kaveri gives less than that. According to DRDO website, it is 81kN. So, this means LCA will not be able to carry 4ton payload with Kaveri and will have to make do with 3.5+ ton.

Moreover, I don't see how these open source fake news went this far as to claim Kaveri as failure when it was clearly said that the dry core of the Kaveri will be use for Ghatak UAV. The core is the main part and if that is complete, the engine is almost done. After burner is having very limited number of parts and hence can't be complicated. Here is the news of ghatak using Kaveri core:
https://www.livefistdefence.com/2017/02/exclusive-indias-ghatak-stealth-ucav-moves-forward.html

If Kaveri was a failure, it core can't be used for any other thing either. So, one of the 2 news is inconsistent. Since DRDO chief has confirmed Kaveri development, it is obvious that the news of junking Kaveri is fake news

why dont you go ahead and ask KSA regarding fuel supply to Pakistan in case of war

Do you really think that India will allow any sea route access to Pakistan? Naval blockade will be the first step.

Don't deflect and change the goal post...


How much is India's strategic fuel reserves.

As for Pak.

The Petroleum Division has decided to maintain diesel reserves for 45 days and refineries will keep intact the supply chain of jet fuels other than the strategic reserves and more importantly, top management of the PSO has put their commercial oil reserves at the disposal of the forces. Other private oil marketing companies (OMCs) will also put their stocks at forces disposal.

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/43...e-smooth-fuel-supply-to-armed-forces-prepared

Indian fuel consumption is 4.3MBPD and India has 65-70 days of inventory with refiners and also has 20-25 days of strategic fuel reserves. This means close to 350 million barrels of fuel storage. Pakistan consumes 0.5 million barrels a day and has 45-50 days of storage. This means about 25 million barrel of fuel. In war, all non essential activities will be restricted and fuel will only be given to strategic activities. This means India will be able to use about 15 times more fuel to its strategic activities than Pakistan.

Nevertheless, India would prefer to have coal liquefaction and hence unlimited fuel supply before it starts any war. In case Pakistan starts a war, India will have far more available fuel than Pakistan. India will keep increasing its inventory and fuel storage over time to keep up with reserves of Pakistan

We have more than enough money for fuel and H-bombs/Thermonuclear weapons.........:

http://isis-online.org/isis-reports...nuclear-weapons-time-for-pakistan-to-rever/12

Has Pakistan detonated any thermonuclear bomb yet? India has detonated one miniature thermonuclear bomb of 45kT in 1998 (it was miniaturised to reduce earthquake impact on villagers). Pakistan did not do any such test.

Second, we are talking of fuel for planes, tanks etc which means liquid fuel like diesel, kerosene.

 

[KhanBaba2]

why dont you go ahead and ask KSA regarding fuel supply to Pakistan in case of war

They did help you during the last war. You seem to be very sure they will help this time too. Relationships are not the same today as they were then. Maybe you should have gone to Yemen.

 

[313ghazi]

I think he is a military analyst, he understands quiet alot. So lets say india builds its force in next 3 to 5 years... What are we pakistaniz doing? We need to keep the balance... We have no money at the moments while india can spend like 500 billion $ on its armed forces in next 5 years we need atpeast 250 billion $ worth of investment in our military machine sadly we don't even have half of that money..

We need to take care of pakistani economy and raise atleast 100 billion $ for the army in next 3 years pronto!

We have had no money for years and yet we have managed to excel. Read this report to see what the armed forces did in financial year 2017-18.

http://modp.gov.pk/userfiles1/file/Year Book 2017-18 (1)(1).pdf

All this work was done with "no money".

InshaAllah once the economy is on the up, we'll do a lot more with "only a little bit of money".

 

[KhanBaba2]

We have more than enough money for fuel and H-bombs/Thermonuclear weapons.........:

I think you mean fission bomb. You don't have H-bomb.

 

[313ghazi]

These open sources are fake news without any basis.

DRDO chief has said that Kaveri is complete but it is not having enough thrust for LCA :
http://forceindia.net/interview/sec...development-organisation-dr-g-satheesh-reddy/

This means that LCA gets 85kN from F404 but Kaveri gives less than that. According to DRDO website, it is 81kN. So, this means LCA will not be able to carry 4ton payload with Kaveri and will have to make do with 3.5+ ton.

Moreover, I don't see how these open source fake news went this far as to claim Kaveri as failure when it was clearly said that the dry core of the Kaveri will be use for Ghatak UAV. The core is the main part and if that is complete, the engine is almost done. After burner is having very limited number of parts and hence can't be complicated. Here is the news of ghatak using Kaveri core:
https://www.livefistdefence.com/2017/02/exclusive-indias-ghatak-stealth-ucav-moves-forward.html

If Kaveri was a failure, it core can't be used for any other thing either. So, one of the 2 news is inconsistent. Since DRDO chief has confirmed Kaveri development, it is obvious that the news of junking Kaveri is fake news


Do you really think that India will allow any sea route access to Pakistan? Naval blockade will be the first step.


Indian fuel consumption is 4.3MBPD and India has 65-70 days of inventory with refiners and also has 20-25 days of strategic fuel reserves. This means close to 350 million barrels of fuel storage. Pakistan consumes 0.5 million barrels a day and has 45-50 days of storage. This means about 25 million barrel of fuel. In war, all non essential activities will be restricted and fuel will only be given to strategic activities. This means India will be able to use about 15 times more fuel to its strategic activities than Pakistan.

Nevertheless, India would prefer to have coal liquefaction and hence unlimited fuel supply before it starts any war. In case Pakistan starts a war, India will have far more available fuel than Pakistan. India will keep increasing its inventory and fuel storage over time to keep up with reserves of Pakistan


Has Pakistan detonated any thermonuclear bomb yet? India has detonated one miniature thermonuclear bomb of 45kT in 1998 (it was miniaturised to reduce earthquake impact on villagers). Pakistan did not do any such test.

Second, we are talking of fuel for planes, tanks etc which means liquid fuel like diesel, kerosene.

Fuel will only be available until H4 glide bombs land on the stores.

 

[Enigma SIG]

Do you really think that India will allow any sea route access to Pakistan? Naval blockade will be the first step.

Don't know what is the obsession with naval blockade of Pakistan's ports by India. We are not Gaza. The moment your navy starts to block passage; there will be Pakistani nukes flying in your blockades general direction.

 

[SecularNationalist]

Do you really think that India will allow any sea route access to Pakistan? Naval blockade will be the first step

Indiots like you Excel in day dreaming,infact your whole war doctrine with pakistan is based on it.
We will do this that,we got superior migs,sukhois bla bla.
Last time your air craft carrier and submarine was locked even before it entered our territorial waters.And here you are going to capture all of our sea area for a naval blockade .
The whole world saw your incompetence on 27 February 2019.

 

[SIPRA]

And here you are going to capture all of our sea area for a naval blockade .

May be, he is talking about navel blockade of Sunny Leone.

 

[PaulSimon]

@Water Car Engineer @PaulSimon

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/rus...-in-india-report-2101406?amp=1&akamai-rum=off

Good development but the point is Modi had delayed this deal for more than 4 years compromising the security of the country.

Today due to the delays with Rafale & S-400 deals, India can neither go on the offensive with Rafales nor defensive with S-400.

 

[Signalian]

Do you really think that India will allow any sea route access to Pakistan? Naval blockade will be the first step.

Lol you are making me laugh now.

India will dare not attack any Chinese or Saudi vessels.

They did help you during the last war. You seem to be very sure they will help this time too. Relationships are not the same today as they were then. Maybe you should have gone to Yemen.

Maybe we are in Yemen- but India doesnt know that

KSA will always help Pakistan, the Pakistani Brigade is deployed in KSA for many reasons

Don't know what is the obsession with naval blockade of Pakistan's ports by India. We are not Gaza. The moment your navy starts to block passage; there will be Pakistani nukes flying in your blockades general direction.

Its alright mate.

First this happened with IAF:

Then this happened with IN submarine

And there is a list of missiles:

1. Harbah
2. Zarb
3. C-802
4. Exocet AM39
5. PAF F-16's are Harpoon capable

All fun and Games here

 

[Taimoor Khan]

I am surprised this guy has not yet labelled as anti national or Pakistani for speaking truth.

The guy has aged a lot since that interview about 27th Feb.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

These open sources are fake news without any basis.

DRDO chief has said that Kaveri is complete but it is not having enough thrust for LCA :
http://forceindia.net/interview/sec...development-organisation-dr-g-satheesh-reddy/

This means that LCA gets 85kN from F404 but Kaveri gives less than that. According to DRDO website, it is 81kN. So, this means LCA will not be able to carry 4ton payload with Kaveri and will have to make do with 3.5+ ton.

Moreover, I don't see how these open source fake news went this far as to claim Kaveri as failure when it was clearly said that the dry core of the Kaveri will be use for Ghatak UAV. The core is the main part and if that is complete, the engine is almost done. After burner is having very limited number of parts and hence can't be complicated. Here is the news of ghatak using Kaveri core:
https://www.livefistdefence.com/2017/02/exclusive-indias-ghatak-stealth-ucav-moves-forward.html

If Kaveri was a failure, it core can't be used for any other thing either. So, one of the 2 news is inconsistent. Since DRDO chief has confirmed Kaveri development, it is obvious that the news of junking Kaveri is fake news


Do you really think that India will allow any sea route access to Pakistan? Naval blockade will be the first step.


Indian fuel consumption is 4.3MBPD and India has 65-70 days of inventory with refiners and also has 20-25 days of strategic fuel reserves. This means close to 350 million barrels of fuel storage. Pakistan consumes 0.5 million barrels a day and has 45-50 days of storage. This means about 25 million barrel of fuel. In war, all non essential activities will be restricted and fuel will only be given to strategic activities. This means India will be able to use about 15 times more fuel to its strategic activities than Pakistan.

Nevertheless, India would prefer to have coal liquefaction and hence unlimited fuel supply before it starts any war. In case Pakistan starts a war, India will have far more available fuel than Pakistan. India will keep increasing its inventory and fuel storage over time to keep up with reserves of Pakistan


Has Pakistan detonated any thermonuclear bomb yet? India has detonated one miniature thermonuclear bomb of 45kT in 1998 (it was miniaturised to reduce earthquake impact on villagers). Pakistan did not do any such test.

Second, we are talking of fuel for planes, tanks etc which means liquid fuel like diesel, kerosene.

Can you please provide evidence for your claims?

I think you mean fission bomb. You don't have H-bomb.

indians also claimed that it was impossible for Pakistan to EVER become a nuclear weapons state with or without Chinese assistance......................that the air killed exactly 300 terrorists in Balakot and shot down an F-16......................

 

[Chanakyaa]

indians also claimed that it was impossible for Pakistan to EVER become a nuclear weapons state with or without Chinese assistance......................that the air killed exactly 300 terrorists in Balakot and shot down an F-16......................

Can You Provide GENUINE, HONEST, RELIABLE, INDEPENDENT & IRREFUTABLE evidence to support the claims in the above post ?

For Clarity... > When Did India ( Indian Govt. ) Claim that :

It was impossible for Pakistan to EVER become a nuclear weapons state

Your Proof Must be : GENUINE, HONEST, RELIABLE, INDEPENDENT & IRREFUTABLE