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More deals delays coming to india tch tch ...
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More deals delays coming to india tch tch ...
More deals delays coming to india tch tch ...
We have been purchasing Sukhoi for past 15 years.....after 10 years we should start retiring process...otherwise it will have same fate like Mig-21.
We have been purchasing Sukhoi for past 15 years.....after 10 years we should start retiring process...otherwise it will have same fate like Mig-21.
Can someone tell about RCS of Super Sukhois. ?
You missed many things here buddy.
4-India has made a request for information to MBDA about integrating the Brimstone ground attack missile and the long-range Meteor air-to-air missile on their Su-30s.
I read (Defenseblog-njs.blogspot.com: RCS comparisation on World's best Fighter Aircrafts) that su-30mki's RCS is around 20 square metres & since super sukhois will be upgraded su-30mki to Sukhoi Su-35BM levels which has RCS of around 1 square metres, i guess it should be around 1-2 square metres (just a wild guess ).
I read (Defenseblog-njs.blogspot.com: RCS comparisation on World's best Fighter Aircrafts) that su-30mki's RCS is around 20 square metres & since super sukhois will be upgraded su-30mki to Sukhoi Su-35BM levels which has RCS of around 1 square metres, i guess it should be around 1-2 square metres (just a wild guess ).
IAF has approached & MBDA is ready to sell.I thought it was not final yet. MBDA officials were ready to integrate METEOR with MKIs but IAF has not formally approached them for this. I might be wrong though.
Old ones have been sent to Russia recently,so it is quite evident that IAf will replace them with Super Sukhois. final mark is 272 for now. Jets have been bought in many batches even in 40 no too,so it is not clear. Only thin'g is clear that 232 jets will be standard MKI"s while other 40s will be Super Sukhois.sry,Which will be "super "
Old 40 inducted or the new 40 under new contract ?
Meteor on the MKI will make it unbeatable in BVR(Among 4th gen fighters).It will have much better airframe,stealth optimized(not fully),RCS will heavily come down, Zhuk AE AESA radar, next generation avionics,next gen missiles(MBDA missiles added,MICA,Storm Shadow).
Su 30 MKI has already 3d TVC. Engines are more than enough,they only need to be tweaked as per requirement.
Old ones have been sent to Russia recently,so it is quite evident that IAf will replace them with Super Sukhois. final mark is 272 for now. Jets have been bought in many batches even in 40 no too,so it is not clear. Only thin'g is clear that 232 jets will be standard MKI"s while other 40s will be Super Sukhois.
Nah, as has been reported the old SU-30Ks that the IAF had sent back are now nothing to do with the IAF and most likely will be sold to a third party.sry,Which will be "super "
Old 40 inducted or the new 40 under new contract ?
No, so far we have made the deal to procure 40 + 2 (replacements) additional fighter, but the Super 30 upgrade is still not fully decided. We only have several rumors about what the upgrade will contain, but not even which radar it will get is for sure yet.
Here you go,this for upgradation of all SU fighters.
Modernisation of Fighter Planes SU-30
There is proposal to upgrade the SU-30 MKI aircraft of the Indian Air Force by M/s Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) with the support of the Russian Original Equipment Manufacturer.
The current estimated cost is Rs. 10920 crores and the aircraft are likely to be upgraded in a phased manner from year 2012 onwards.
This information was given by Defence Minister Shri AK Antony in written reply to Shri Brijlal Khabri in Rajya Sabha today.
Press Information Bureau English Releases
Rs 15,000 crore Sukhoi deal cleared
NEW DELHI: The Cabinet Committee on Security earlier this month quietly cleared one of the biggest defence orders of recent times.
The almost Rs 15,000 crore order for an additional 42 Sukhoi-30 MKI fighters would add up the total number of these modern Russian fighters for Indian Air Force to 272.
When the entire Sukhoi-30 MKIs, including the 42, are delivered to IAF by around 2018, it would become the single largest type of fighters in service, marking a huge technological transition from the dominance of MIG-21 fighters today.
A senior official said the CCS cleared the new order in the first week of June.
By the time HAL begins manufacture of the 42 aircraft sometime in 2014, each of them would cost in the range of Rs 350 crore, according to present day projections.
The new order for Sukhoi-30 MKIs comes even as attention is fully on the tender floated by the Air Force for $10 billion worth 126 MMRCA (medium multi role combat aircraft). But by the time the MMRCA enters the service, it would be the Sukhoi-30 MKI that would actually be the dominant fighter of the Air Force. And the combined contract value of SU-30 MKIs would be more than double that of the MMRCA.
The Su-30 MKI was originally contracted in 1996, when the Russian military-industrial complex was in a shambles after the Soviet Union collapsed. Its design and capabilities, however, continues to impress globally.
The initial contract was for 50 fighters, at $1.46 billion. Over the years, the numbers kept increasing. In 2000, the government contracted the licenced production of 140 of these highly advanced fighters by the Hindustan Aeronautics Limited. Then another 40 were added to the contract.
The present order for 42 fighters was originally supposed to be 40, but two more were added to the order book to make up for the two crashed fighters. A senior official said that HAL is expected to complete all the SU-30 MKI orders by 2016-17 period.
HAL has been steadily stepping up its Sukhoi-30 MKI delivery schedules. While last year it delivered 23 of these fighters, this year it is expected to produce 28. HAL has already supplied 74 of these fighters.
Rs 15,000 crore Sukhoi deal cleared - Times Of India
This is for Super Sukhois.
Russia wins large contract to modernize Indian Su-30MKI fighters - media
India has placed orders with the Russian defense industry to modernize Su-30MKI Flanker-H fighters produced in India under the Russian license, India Today magazine reported in its June issue, without disclosing the sum of the contract.
The project codenamed Super 30 stipulates the installation of new radars, onboard computers, electronic warfare systems and BrahMos supersonic missiles on 40 Su-30MKI fighters, the magazine said.
The Indian Air Force currently operates about 100 Su-30MKI fighters and plans to produce another 170 aircraft in the next 10 years under the Russian license.
India has a long history of defense ties with Moscow. The current cooperation program comprises about 200 joint projects, including the transfer of technology for the licensed assembly of T-90 tanks in India, the production of BrahMos missiles and the purchase of Smerch MLRS by India.
The BrahMos missile has a range of 290 km (180 miles) and can carry a conventional warhead of up to 300 kg (660 lbs). It can effectively engage ground targets from an altitude as low as 10 meters (30 feet) and has a top speed of Mach 2.8, which is about three times faster than the U.S.-made subsonic Tomahawk cruise missile.
Established in 1998, BrahMos Aerospace, a joint Indian-Russian venture, produces and markets BrahMos supersonic missiles. The sea-based and land-based versions have been successfully tested and put into service with the Indian Army and Navy.
NEW DELHI, May 30 (RIA Novosti)
Russia wins large contract to modernize Indian Su-30MKI fighters - media | World | RIA Novosti
This one too.
Strategic Command to acquire 40 nuclear capable fighters
With an aim of increasing its lethal power, India's tri-services strike force is planning to acquire 40 fighter planes capable of delivering nuclear weapons. The Strategic Forces Command (SFC) has submitted a proposal to the Defence Ministry for setting up two dedicated squadrons of
fighter aircraft which will act as "mini-Air Force", ministry sources said.
This will be the first time that SFC, which at present depends on the Indian Air Force for delivering nuclear weapons under its command, will have its own aerial assets, they said.
The SFC does not want untested fighters but the ones which are battle proven and have capabilities to deliver nuclear-tipped missiles, the sources said.
The aircraft planned to be procured are part of efforts to strengthen the nuclear delivery system which right now is based on land-based ballistic missiles such as the Agni and Prithvi and nuclear-capable fighters such as the Mirage 2000, Su-30 MKI and Jaguars.
Created in January 2003, the SFC is part of the Nuclear Command Authority (NCA) and is responsible for the management and administration of the country's tactical and strategic nuclear weapons stockpile.
Attempts are underway to complete the nuclear triad by developing the indigenous Arihant class nuclear submarine and under-sea launched versions of the existing ballistic missile systems.
India's nuclear doctrine envisages building a credible minimum deterrent for maintaining a 'second strike capability' which will be massive and designed to induce unacceptable damage on the enemy.
The SFC is headed by a three-star officer from any of the three services and is responsible for implementing directives of the NCA. At present, the force is headed by Lieutenant General B S Nagal.
The force manages and administers all strategic forces by exercising complete command and control over nuclear assets, and producing all contingency plans as needed to fulfil the required tasks.
The operational missile groups of the Army are armed with the 150-250 km short-range Prithvi missiles and the others with the Agni missiles of ranges above 1,5000 km form the nucleus of SFC.
Strategic Command to acquire 40 nuclear capable fighters - Hindustan Times
50 + 140 + 40 - 3 = 227 + 42 = 269 (after the deal of 40 + 2 was fixed, we lost another MKI, it's possible that IAF wants to replace that as well)
That is 100% correct buddy.
That's speculation buddy, radar can be Zhuk AE, or BARS AESA, missiles initially planned were ASTRA, RCS reduction includes composites and RAM and not stealth features, besides Bhramos and possibly newer versions of R77 / Astra, I think Sudharshan LGB will be integrated as well.
I think we can expect atleast 300 MKIs (JMHO) and whilst the latest 42 will be upgraded to the full "SUPER" standard with all th e bells and whistles (air-launch Bhramos,Air-launch Nirbhay and all the others conducive with a "deep upgrade") the others will have their MLU within the next 3-4 years wherein much of the "SUPER" upgrades will be installed such as new MFDs,HMDS,MAWS,RWR,AESA etc it is just these birds won't undergo the extenisve structual modification that the "SUPER" std will that allow them to launch Bhramos and the like. This is the ONLY difference- the avionics and such will be identical.
Nah, as has been reported the old SU-30Ks that the IAF had sent back are now nothing to do with the IAF and most likely will be sold to a third party.