Strongest Empires by timeline

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Abbasid Caliphate
750–1258/1261–1517
Abbasid Caliphate 750–1258

well if you put that fake map aside and search the sentence "Iran Muslim Dynasty " you see that since 821 when Tahir I
read the Khutba in his own name Iran was not under the control of Abbasid and then you find this interesting part

As the power of the Abbasid caliphs diminished, a series of dynasties rose in various parts of Iran, some with considerable influence and power. Among the most important of these overlapping dynasties were the Tahirids in Khorasan (820-72); the Saffarids in Sistan (867-903); and the Samanids (875-1005), originally at Bokhara. The Samanids eventually ruled an area from central Iran to Pakistan.[19] By the early 10th century, the Abbasids almost lost control to the growing Persian faction known as the Buwayhid dynasty (934-1055). Since much of the Abbasid administration had been Persian anyway, the Buwayhid, who were Zaidi Shia, were quietly able to assume real power in Baghdad.

The Samanid dynasty was the first fully native dynasty to rule Iran since the Muslim conquest, and led the revival of Persian culture. The first important Persian poet after the arrival of Islam, Rudaki, was born during this era and was praised by Samanid kings. The Samanids also revived many ancient Persian festivals. Their successor, the Ghaznawids, who were of non-Iranian Turkic origin, also became instrumental in the revival of Persian

 

[Surenas]

I hope that I clarified things to you. I am giong to make a complete sub in a new thread about Arab conquest of the so called "Persia". Until then, have fun revising my posts here. oh and don't forget the videos, watch them all plz .

Fine, I'm going to make a counter topic on the lack of non-science of Arabs and their barbaric history, where they buried their own daughters alive and everybody in Europe see them as barbaric idiots with middle-age thoughts.

I respect Voltaire understanding of free speech... He was more of a libertarian than most of the politicians but he was an Turkophile... Do you want me to take him seiorusly?

Turks by the time of Ottomans were more advanced than Persians which were under rule of another Turkish dynasty... You can't even compere the Ottomans and Safavids which were Turk or any other Iranian ruler again which were Turk...

Read this: culturally Persians influenced the Turks more than any people in the world. You maybe conquered Iran, but we conquered you guys culturally:

Turko-Persian tradition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

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Dude... Khwarezmi you are talking about are Turkish dynasty....

Sebük Tigin (founder of Ghaznavids)

What is known about Sebük Tigin is that he was of Turkic origin

not the dynasty , the person
Muḥammad ibn Mūsā al-Khwārizmī

 

[Deno]

WHAT THE **** ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

I go Iran all the time and meet azeri all the time. all of them are as much persian as the rest of us. and love our culture. please make a video of you calling one of them a turk.
you need to go Iran and quit this BS. just because some zionists loving azerbajini says something you believe them?

all of azerbajian belongs to us and so do all of kurdistan. they are nothing but iranic people.
man I am so surprised with the amount of lies you people believe.

Like I said... You need to see that before talking. Specially after the comics... Most of the Azeri Turks are comfortable with the Shia dominated sytem now because They are the ones who made Shia Islam dominate the Persia and Azerbaijan but they are not happy with the alligations of They are Persian or they are Persian originated people. You can see them on protests every year because of that. The idea of Azeri Turks being Persian originated people mainly came from Soviet historians and Iranian historians...
Even Japanese and Korean being part of Altaic language family is more credited than that... It is state propaganda and to be blund it is funny and pathetic to some extand...

zorpoastrain was the first religion to properly worship a single god and believe in heaven and hell.

people who argue this facts are just stupid and arrogant.
dont just tell me they were "others". prove it bro.

there is evidence in Iran that Zoroastrian dates back to 3000bce. some say the prophet zoroaster could had been born as far as 6000bce! of course we have no evidence,

I said concept of religion, I didn't said concept of one god...

 

[Surenas]

It is state propaganda and to be blund it is funny and pathetic to some extand...

''It was the latter appeal to Iranian Azerbaijanis, which, contrary to Pan-Turkist intentions, caused a small group of Azerbaijani intellectuals to become the strongest advocates of the territorial integrity of Iran.[26] After the constitutional revolution in Iran, a romantic nationalism was adopted by Azerbaijani Democrats as a reaction to the pan-Turkist irredentist policies threatening Iran’s territorial integrity.[26] It was during this period that Iranism and linguistic homogenization policies were proposed as a defensive nature against all others.[26] Contrary to what one might expect, foremost among innovating this defensive nationalism were Iranian Azerbaijanis.''

Iranian Azerbaijanis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I just have to quote this again:

''The Persians are the most civilized people of the East, and the greatest complimenters in the world. The polite men amongst them are upon a level with the politest men of Europe. Their airs [and] their countenance is very well composed; lovely, grave, majestical, and as fond as may be, they never fail complimenting one another about the precedency, either going out or coming into a house, or when they meet, but 'tis over presently. They look upon two things in our manners as very ridiculous, viz. contending so long as we do, who shall go first; and covering our head, to do honor to any man, which amongst them is a want of respect or a liberty which no body takes but with his inferiors or familiar friends. They observe the right and the left hand, but our left is their right, and so 'tis all over the east. They say, that Cyrus began first to place men on his left hand out of respect to them because that side is the weaker part of the body and the most exposed to danger.''

Jean Chardin.

 

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About Azeri in Iran
I'm Persian but I studied at Zanjan university
zanjan is a dominant Azeri city in north west of Iran and what I saw is that they don't consider themselves
as Persian and they also don't consider themselves as Turk . but they certainly considered themselves as
Iranian.


but a sad thing I saw was that slowly they were loosing their language and I saw many young generation at
the age of elementary school who could not speak Azeri

 

[PERSIAN GOD KING]

deno:

it is pathetic only in your eyes bro.
also I did not say we invented religion, I said the we were the first to used the concept of one god,devil and heaven/hell.

sorry for the misunderstanding.

 

[Deno]

Fine, I'm going to make a counter topic on the lack of non-science of Arabs and their barbaric history, where they buried their own daughters alive and everybody in Europe see them as barbaric idiots with middle-age thoughts.



Read this: culturally Persians influenced the Turks more than any people in the world. You maybe conquered Iran, but we conquered you guys culturally:

Turko-Persian tradition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Culture and science does not belong to one nation and thats why when more advanced nations meet with less advanced nation, less advaced ones adopts others knowledge... Which Turks did and Which Turks took far and far more advaced state than Persian themselves...

Edit: Typo

 

[Surenas]

Another great quote of Jean Chardin:

''In Persia, the young Huguenot merchant encountered a society which he characterized as more hospitable, more civilized, and more tolerant than his native France.''

From strangers to citizens: the integration of immigrant communities in ... - Randolph Vigne, Charles Littleton, Huguenot Society of Great Britain and Ireland - Google Boeken

 

[Deno]

Iranian Azerbaijanis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I just have to quote this again:



Jean Chardin.

These were not done because They were not Turkish origin they were done to counter Ottoman propaganda and influence

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

Fine, I'm going to make a counter topic on the lack of non-science of Arabs and their barbaric history, where they buried their own daughters alive and everybody in Europe see them as barbaric idiots with middle-age thoughts.



Read this: culturally Persians influenced the Turks more than any people in the world. You maybe conquered Iran, but we conquered you guys culturally:

Turko-Persian tradition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Battle of Qadisiyah
Was captured about 40,000 of the Persians (high class people) (Alashraf) and were sold as slaves in the markets.

Slaves.

 

[Deno]

deno:

it is pathetic only in your eyes bro.
also I did not say we invented religion, I said the we were the first to used the concept of one god,devil and heaven/hell.

sorry for the misunderstanding.

No problem bro... I don't think anyone can argue against Persian influence on world history or the influence of Zoroastrianism on modern day religions and people

 

[Surenas]

Battle of Qadisiyah
Was captured about 40,000 of the Persians (high class people) (Alashraf) and were sold as slaves in the markets.

Slaves.

At least we where not slaves of the English and Ottomans!

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

At least we where not slaves of the English and Ottomans!

Yah but in your dreams..

 

[Surenas]

Yah but in your dreams..