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Strongest Empires by timeline

mate im not here 24/7 last time i checked it was like 17 pages now like 30 pages thread but i will compare anyway , turkey is one of the strongest countries in europe aswell

baseless, why do you claim such a thing?? if you want to compare,compare with europe which you so eagerly want to join

wanst one of mughal empires creators turkic?

Pakistan can be considered a successor of the Mughal Empire, Pakistan being the Muslim homeland of So Asia it holds the legacy of the Muslim Mughal Empire, hence I mentioned Mughals in my first post in the thread.

Even British historians agree Mughal empire was definitely one of the worlds strongest empires both militarily and economically.
 
Do you know what I'm gonna give you? A quote from a respected man:

''Persian-speaking Iranians made great contributions in the formation of Islamic intellectual history. A great portion (and most of the best) of medieval Muslim philosophers, physicians, ethicists, scientists, Islamic jurists, historians, and geographers were Persian-speaking Iranians. [....] A great many medieval islamic contributions to economic analysis, I will argue, were made by Persian-speaking Iranians writers: philosophers, ethicist, scientists, theologians and the writers of ''mirror of princes.''
- Joseph. A. Schumpeter.

I'm waiting for such quotes to Arabs from respected figures. You can go search now!



List of Persian Scientists, Scholars and their inventions/contributions:

A
* Abdol-Hamid, founder of Arabic prose along with the fellow Persian Ibn Muqaffa.
* Abhari, mathematician.
* Abu Dawood, Islamic scholar.
* Abū Ḥanīfa, Islamic scholar.
* Abu Nasr e Mansur, mathematician.
* Abu Sa'id al-Darir al-Jurajani
* Abu Wafa Buzjani, mathematician.
* Azod al-Dowleh, prominent scientific patron
* Ahmad ibn Farrokh, physician.
* Ahmad Ibn Imad ul-din, physician and chemist.
* Ala'eddin, constructed the Counterweight Trebuchet for Kubilai. He was thus honoured in the official history of China's Yuan Dynasty. (p119)
* Alavi Shirazi, royal physician to India.
* Alhazen, or Ebne Heisam in Persian.
* Amuli, Muhammad ibn Mahmud, physician.
* Abū Ja'far al-Khāzin
* Ansari, Khwaja Abdullah, Islamic scholar.
* An Shihkao
* Aqa-Kermani, physician.
* Aqsara'i, physician.
* Arzani, Muqim, physician.
* Astarabadi, physician.
* Aufi, Muhammad, scientist and historian
* Avicenna (Ibn Sina), physician, philosopher
* Azophi, a.k.a. Abdorrahman Sufi, astronomer from Ray that invented the meridian ring.
* Ghiyāth al-Dīn Jamshīd ibn Masʾūd al-Kāshī,astronomer and mathematician.
* Abdollah Javadi-Amoli Philosoph shia

B

* Baghawi, Islamic scholar
* Bahai, Sheikhpoet, mathematician, and astronomer,engineer,designer,faghih(religious scientist),Architect
* Baladhuri, historian, d.892
* Balkhi, a.k.a. Albumasar, mathematician
* Balkhi, Ibn Sahl, geographer and mathematician
* Balkhi, Ibn
* Banū Mūsā Brothers
* Barmak, Khaled, Bhuddist from Khorasan in the court of al-Mansur, initiated the Greek translation movement of the Abbasid House of Wisdom
* Bayhaqi, historian
* Behbahani, Vahid, theologian
* Ibn Bibi, historian of the Seljuks of Rum
* Biruni, astronomer and mathematician
* Bukhari, prominent Islamic scholar
* Bukhtishu, Persian Christian physician of Academy of Gundishapur
* Bukhtishu, Abdollah ibn, Christian physician in Persia
* Bukhtishu, Gabriel ibn, Christian physician
* Bukhtishu, Yuhanna, Christian physician
* Burzoe, a.k.a. Borzouyeh-i Tabib, physician of Academy of Gundishapur
* Birjandi astronomer and mathematician 16th century

C

* Dīnawarī, Abū Ḥanīfa, d.896, polymath
* Dinawaree, ibn Qutaybah, d.885, historian

[edit] E

* Esfarayeni, physician

[edit] F

* Farghani, d.880, a.k.a. Alfraganus, astronomer
* Farabi, d.950, (Al-Farabi, Pharabius), philosopher
* Kamal al-Din Farisi, d.1318, mathematician
* Fazari, Ibrahim, d.777, mathematician and astronomer
* Fazari, Mohammad, d.796, mathematician and astronomer
* Ferdowsi, d.1020, the famous poet
* Feyz Kashani, Mohsen, d.1680, theologian

[edit] G

* Geber; Jaber ibn Hayan, d.815, chemist. Known as Geber in English.
* Gardezi, Abu Said, d.1061, geographer and historian
* Ghazali (Algazel), d.1111, philosopher
* Gilani, Hakim, d.1069, royal physician
* Gorgani, Zayn al-Din Isma‘il ibn, d.1136, royal physician
* Gorgani, Abu Saeed, , astronomer and mathematician
* Gorgani, Rostam, physician
* Gorgani e Masihi, see Masihi Gorgani, d.999, Avicenn'a master

[edit] H

* Hakim Ghulam Imam, physician
* Hakim Muhammad Mehdi Naqi, physician
* Hakim Muhammad Sharif Khan, physician
* Hakim Nishaburi, Islamic scholar
* Hallaj, Mystic-philosopher
* Haly Abbas, prominent physician
* Hamadani, Ali, physician
* Hamadani, Mir Sayyid Ali, poet and philosopher
* Hanbal, Ahmad Ibn, Islamic scholar
* Harawi, Abolfadl, astronomer of Buyid dynasty
* Harawi, Muwaffak: See Al-Muwaffak, pharmacologist
* Harawi, Muhammad ibn Yusuf, physician
* Harawi, Ali, traveller
* Majid Hassanizadeh, Professor of Hydrogeolgoy, Expertise: theories of porous media (Utrecht University, The Netherlands).[1]
* Hasani, Qavameddin, physician
* Hedayat, Habibollah, Nutritionist and Obstetrician Gynecologist
* Hessaby, Mahmoud, physician

[edit] I

* Ibn Abi Sadiq, "The Second Hippocrates", Avicenna's disciple
* Ibn Haytham, physicist
* Ibn Khaseb, physician
* Ibn Khordadbeh, geographer
* Ibn Rustah
* Ilaqi, Yusef, Avicenna's pupil
* Ilyas, Yusef ibn, physician
* Isfahani Abol-fath, mathematician
* Ibn Sina, (Avicenna), Philosopher and Physician
* Isfahani, Jalaleddin, physician
* Isfahani, Husayn, physician
* Istakhri, geographer, gives the earliest known account of windmills
* Iranshahri,philosopher,the teacher of Muhammad Zakaria Razi.

[edit] J

* Jābir ibn Hayyān, a polymath who is considered the father of chemistry. He emphasized systematic experimentation, and did much to free alchemy from superstition and turn it into a science.
* Ja'far ibn Muhammad Abu Ma'shar al-Balkhi
* Jaghmini, physician
* Jaldaki, physician
* Juvayni, historian
* Juwayni, philosopher
* Juzjani, Abu Ubaid, physician
* Jamasb, philosopher

[edit] K

* Karaji, mathematician
* Kashani (Kashi), mathematician
* Kashfi, Jafar, theologian
* Kazerouni, Masoud, physician
* Kermani, Iwad, physician
* Kermani, Shams-ud-Din, Islamic scholar
* Khademhosseini, Alireza, Pioneer in Biomedical and Bioengineering
* Khazeni, Abu Jafar, mathematician
* Khazeni, Abolfath, physicist
* Khayyám, Omar, poet, mathematician, and astronomer
* Khorasani, Sultan Ali, physician
* Khujandi, mathematician and astronomer
* Khwarizmi (aka Al-Khwarazmi) creator of algorithm and algebra, mathematician and astronomer
* Kushyar ibn Labban, mathematician, Nasavi's master
* Kuhi, Rostam, mathematician
* Kubra, Najmeddin

[edit] M

* Mahani, mathematician
* Muhammad al-Fazari
* Muhammad Baqir Yazdi In the 17th century, He gave the pair of amicable numbers 9,363,584 and 9,437,056.
* Majusi, Ibn Abbas, physician
* Marvazi, astronomer and mathematician
* Marvazi, Abu Taher, philosopher
* Masawaiyh or Masuya
* Mashallah ibn Athari, of Jewish origins, from Khorasan who designed the city of Baghdad based on Firouzabad
* Masihi Gorgani, Avicenna's master
* Mirza Ali Hakim, physician
* Miskawayh, philosopher
* Mostowfi Qazvini, geographer
* Mullasadra, philosopher
* Muqaffa, Ibn, founder of Arabic prose along with Abdol-Hamid.
* bin Musa, Hasan, astronomer
* bin Musa, Ahmad, astronomer
* bin Musa, Muhammad, astronomer
* Muwaffaq, Abu mansur, pharmacologist
* Muhammad ibn Muhammad Tabrizi,philosopher

[edit] N

* Nagawri, physician
* Nahavandi, Benjamin, Jewish scholar
* Nahavandi, Ahmad, astronomer
* Nakhshabi, physician
* Nasir Gebelli, computer scientist and video game developer
* Nasir Khusraw, scientist, Ismaili scholar, mathematician, philosopher, Traveler and poet
* Nasavi, mathematician
* Natili Tabari, physician
* Naubakht, Designer of the city of Baghdad
* Naubakht, Fadhl ibn
* Nawbakhty, Islamic scholar, philosopher
* Nawbakhti, Ruh, Islamic scholar
* Nayrizi, mathematician
* Naqshband, Baha ud-Din, philosopher
* Neishaburi, physician
* Neishaburi, prominent Islamic scholar
* Nizami Ganjavi, romantic poet
* Nurbakhshi, physician

[edit] P

* Paul the Persian, philosopher.

[edit] Q

* Qazi Zadeh, prominent mathematician
* Qazwini, Zakariya, physician
* Qumi, Qazi Sa’id, theologian
* Qumri, physician
* Qushayri, Abd al-Karīm ibn Hawāzin, d.1074, philosopher

[edit] R

* Razi, Amin, geographer
* Razi Amoli, Fakhreddin, philosopher
* Razi, Zakariya (Rhazes), chemist and physicist
* Razi, Najmeddin
* Rumi, Jalal ad-Din Muhammad
* Rashid-al-Din Hamadani, historian, physician and politician
* Muhammad ibn Zakariya al-Razi, Physician

[edit] S

* Sabzevari, Mulla Hadi, poet and philosopher
* Saghani Ostorlabi, astronomer
* Sahl, Fadl ibn
* Sahl, Shapur ibn, physician
* Salman the Persian, religion commentator, companion of Prophet Muhammad
* Samarqandi, Najibeddin, physician
* Samarqandi, Ashraf, mathematician, astronomer.
* Sarakhsi, Muhammad ibn Ahmad, Islamic scholar
* Seifzadeh, Hossein,S. Political Scientist, Iranian Studies,
* Shahrastani historian of religions
* Shahrazuri, philosopher and physician
* Shahrazuri,Ibn al-Salah, Islamic scholar
* Shaykh Tusi, famous Islamic scholar
* Shaykh Saduq, theologian
* Shirazi, Imad al-Din Mas'ud, physician
* Shirazi, Muhammad Hadi Khorasani, physician
* Shirazi, Qutbeddin, astronomer
* Shirazi, Mahmud ibn Ilyas, physician
* Shirazi, Najm al-Din Mahmud ibn Ilyas, physician
* Shirazi, Qurayshi, physician
* Shirazi, Sultan Waezin, theologian
* Sijzi, mathematician
* Sijzi, Mas'ud, physician
* Soleiman ibn Hasan, physician
* Abd al-Rahman al-Sufi: see Azophi
* Suhrawardi, Shahab al-Din, philosopher

[edit] T

* Tabarani, Abu al-Qasim, Islamic scholar
* Tabari Amoli, prominent historian
* Tabari, Natili Amoli: See Al-Natili
* Tabari, ibn Farrukhan, astrologer and architect
* Tabari, Abul Hasan, physician.
* Tabari, Ibn Sahl, Jewish convert physician. Master of Rhazes
* Tabrizi, Maqsud Ali, physician.
* Taftazani, theologian, linguist
* Tayfur, Ibn Abi Tahir, d.893, linguist
* Tāriq, Yaqub ibn
* Tirmidhi, Islamic scholar
* Tunakabuni, physician
* Tughra'i, physician
* Tusi, Nizam ol-Molk, the great vizier
* Tusi, Nasireddin, mathematician, philosopher
* Tusi, Sharafeddin, mathematician

[edit] U
[edit] V

* Amin al-Din Rashid al-Din Vatvat, scholar and physician.

[edit] W

* Waqidi, historian

[edit] Y

* Yaqūb ibn Tāriq
* Yumn, Nazif ibn

[edit] Z

* Zamakhshari, scholar and geographer.
* Zarrin dast, oculist.
* Zayn-e-Attar, physician

[edit] See also

* List of contemporary Iranian scientists, scholars, and engineers
* Nizamiyyah
* Academy of Gundishapur
* International rankings of Iran in science and technology
 
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Clearly, this guy SC does not know who or what are Aryans, and Arabs are deffinitly not Aryans as he has stated in his posts.

Indeed. No Arab is Aryan. Aryans we have in Iran, Afghanistan, India and Pakistan. Indo-European speaking people in the M-O and Asia. And Aryans doesn't have anything to do with skin color, but rather with skull structure.
 
"Yunan-o-Misr-o-Roma sab mit gaye jahan se ab tak magar hai baki naam-o-nishan hamara, kuchh baat hai ke hasti mit'ti nahin hindustan ki sadiyon raha hai dushman daur-e-zaman hamara (Greek, Egyptians and Romans have all vanished, but we are still here. There must be something special that India still exist despite the whole world against us)," - Muhammad Iqbal
 
"Yunan-o-Misr-o-Roma sab mit gaye jahan se ab tak magar hai baki naam-o-nishan hamara, kuchh baat hai ke hasti mit'ti nahin hindustan ki sadiyon raha hai dushman daur-e-zaman hamara (Greek, Egyptians and Romans have all vanished, but we are still here. There must be something special that India still exist despite the whole world against us)," - Muhammad Iqbal
yeah,slave of muslims,mongols and everyone,really special

If you arfe comparing empires by race, then it is the Turkish race which will beat everyone. :)

nah,mongol empire is far more stronger in military force.
 
yeah,slave of muslims,mongols and everyone,really special



nah,mongol empire is far more stronger in military force.

What I meant was, many empires were founded by people who were originally Turks, many empires. Even some branches of Mongol empire was founded by Turks.
 
If you arfe comparing empires by race, then it is the Turkish race which will beat everyone. :)

The most feared warriors in Central-Asia were (before the Turks) the Iranic Scythians, Sarmatians and Alans. They also mixed later with Turkic and Mongol people and actually the Huns were a mix of Turkic, Mongol and Iranic people. The Turks just came around the corner when most ancient empires were extremely weaken and were not anymore in the height of their power.
 
If you arfe comparing empires by race, then it is the Turkish race which will beat everyone. :)

Well, even you agreed that in today's world Pakistan has the strongest military among the predominantly Muslim countries. So your contradicting yourself, unless you were just kidding with your comment.

There is only one viable Turkic origin state, the rest are newly developed countries with little power and little economic might, so it's difficult to see how this ethnic group (not a race mind you) would defeat "everyone". Consider Azerbaijan has failed to capture NK territory from Armenia, at least have the other Turkic states manage a few victory in this day and age before making that remark.

Though it is best to stick with the strongest empires of all time, and that would definitively be the Roman Empire. No other entity, empire, nor nation can match it's profound rule, time/longevity, might, influence, and effect on Earth.
 
Though it is best to stick with the strongest empires of all time, and that would definitively be the Roman Empire. No other entity, empire, nor nation can match it's profound rule, time/longevity, might, influence, and effect on Earth.

I think that when it comes on culturally the strongest empire, the Romans are indeed at number one. Military I think not. I think military the US is from 1990 the strongest country the world has ever seen.
 
i think the world has never seen such a huge gap the US has achieved tbh just look at every single stat they are far far far far ahead
 
i think the world has never seen such a huge gap the US has achieved tbh just look at every single stat they are far far far far ahead

Yeah, that's what I'm saying to. Although they are slightly losing their power, but the US from 1990 till 2006 was definitely the strongest entity the world have ever seen.
 
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