Strongest Empires by timeline

[Deno]

- Bernard Lewis.

Are you saying that Ottoman way of life, understanding of state bussiness and bureaucracy which is of lack of better words immensly upgraded version of Persian bureaucracy, art and science are credited to Persians?

Dude, Ottomans united the Islamic art and science with West and that makes them uniqe only Helenic people tried and and they couldn't sustain this more than 100-200 years which Ottomans and by that I mean Turks did that for 700 years...

I know what you mean. but trust me one day persian empire will rise again!

as for your azeris, they see themselves as Iranian, do you know most Iranian here are some part azeri?
go ahead and ask them if they think they are turks lol

Azeri Turks see themselves as Turks as much as Kurds see themselves as Turks... You need to live in Iran or talk with Azeri Turks in Iran to understand that. Azeri Turks in Iran would support the state and Persian people gainst a foreign threat but they don't see themselves as Persians and got really angry if someone claim that.

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

well as a rule I'm always right
this from wiki
Richard Bulliet's "conversion curve" indicates that only about 10% of Iran converted to Islam during the relatively Arab-centric Umayyad period. Following the Abbasid revolution of 749-51, in which Iranian converts played a major role, the Caliphate's center of gravity moved to Mesopotamia and underwent significant Iranian influences.[8] Accordingly, the Muslim population of Iran rose from approx. 40% in the mid 9th century to close to 100% by the end of 11th century.[9]

you see Iranian become Muslim under Iranian dynasties not Arabs

Abbasid Caliphate
750–1258/1261–1517
Abbasid Caliphate 750–1258

 

[Deno]

Yeah, Arabs are Aryans! Especially Jordans!

According to Eupedia 30% of the haplogroups (Y DNA) found in Jordan are African DNA! Haha! Mongrels!

European Y-DNA haplogroups frequencies by country - Eupedia

No they are not... This statements are made because Jewish people want to be the ony Semitic people.... They don't want Arabs to be seen as Semitic they want them to be seen as Persian people who adopted the semitic language... which is laughtable at best...

 

[Surenas]

you just a fool who is jealous.

Everybody is jealous! The Arabs claim due to her non-scientifically background Persians like Ibn Sina and the same counts for the Turks which some of them claim Khwarezmi was a Turk. How pathetic. Everybody want a tiny part of the great Persian history. Nietzsche, the greatest philosopher ever:

"I must pay tribute to Zarathushtrâ, a Persian (einem Perser): Persians were the first who thought of history in its full entirety."

 

[PERSIAN GOD KING]

No they are not... This statements are made because Jewish people want to be the ony Semitic people.... They don't want Arabs to be seen as Semitic they want them to be seen as Persian people who adopted the semitic language... which is laughtable at best...

he was clearly being sarcastic.

Everybody is jealous! The Arabs claim due to her non great scientifically background Persians like Ibn Sina and the same counts for the Turks which some of them claim Khwarezmi was a Turk. How pathetic. Everybody want a tiny part of the great Persian history. Nietzsche, the greatest philosopher ever:

I heard cyrus the great and darius was also an arab.
so was zoroaster. I think everyone and everything was a arab.

 

[Deno]

what stupid comment.

name me a religion that pre dates zorastriansm and prove it.
persian was a superpower whether you like it or not. definition? had 44% of all the world population under it.
List of largest empires - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

first empire on the planet to extend into many continent.

so go ahead and tell me why persia was not the first superpower.
you just a fool who is jealous.

South and East Asian people predates the Mesopotamians and that means they had the concept of religion before Mesopotamian people.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Yah, you live that dream.

I like a list of s


List of Persian scientists and scholars

I demanded them in Ummayad and Abbasied eras not from antiquity up until the beginning of the modern age

I demand you a list of scientist in Ommayed dynasty .
well the answer is that under the rule of that tyrannical and oppressive dynasty you cant find any.

Yah, you live that dream.

I like a list of s


List of Persian scientists and scholars

I demanded them in Ummayad and Abbasied eras not from antiquity up until the beginning of the modern age

I demand you a list of scientist in Ommayed dynasty .
well the answer is that under the rule of that tyrannical and oppressive dynasty you cant find any.

 

[Surenas]

South and East Asian people predates the Mesopotamians and that means they had the concept of religion before Mesopotamian people.

Voltaire on Turks:

''I wish fervently that the Turkish barbarians be chased away immediately out of the country of Xenophon, Socrates, Plato, Sophocles and Euripides. If we wanted, it could be done soon but seven crusades of superstition have been undertaken and a crusade of honour will never take place. We know almost no city built by them; they let decay the most beautiful establishments of Antiquity, they reign over ruins."

 

[PERSIAN GOD KING]

South and East Asian people predates the Mesopotamians and that means they had the concept of religion before Mesopotamian people.

zorpoastrain was the first religion to properly worship a single god and believe in heaven and hell.

people who argue this facts are just stupid and arrogant.
dont just tell me they were "others". prove it bro.

there is evidence in Iran that Zoroastrian dates back to 3000bce. some say the prophet zoroaster could had been born as far as 6000bce! of course we have no evidence,

 

[Surenas]

Jean Chardin on the Persians (Iranians):

''The Persians are the most civilized people of the East, and the greatest complimenters in the world. The polite men amongst them are upon a level with the politest men of Europe. Their airs [and] their countenance is very well composed; lovely, grave, majestical, and as fond as may be, they never fail complimenting one another about the precedency, either going out or coming into a house, or when they meet, but 'tis over presently. They look upon two things in our manners as very ridiculous, viz. contending so long as we do, who shall go first; and covering our head, to do honor to any man, which amongst them is a want of respect or a liberty which no body takes but with his inferiors or familiar friends. They observe the right and the left hand, but our left is their right, and so 'tis all over the east. They say, that Cyrus began first to place men on his left hand out of respect to them because that side is the weaker part of the body and the most exposed to danger.''

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Chardin

 

[Deno]

Everybody is jealous! The Arabs claim due to her non-scientifically background Persians like Ibn Sina and the same counts for the Turks which some of them claim Khwarezmi was a Turk. How pathetic. Everybody want a tiny part of the great Persian history. Nietzsche, the greatest philosopher ever:

Dude... Khwarezmi you are talking about are Turkish dynasty....

Sebük Tigin (founder of Ghaznavids)

What is known about Sebük Tigin is that he was of Turkic origin

 

[PERSIAN GOD KING]

Are you saying that Ottoman way of life, understanding of state bussiness and bureaucracy which is of lack of better words immensly upgraded version of Persian bureaucracy, art and science are credited to Persians?

Dude, Ottomans united the Islamic art and science with West and that makes them uniqe only Helenic people tried and and they couldn't sustain this more than 100-200 years which Ottomans and by that I mean Turks did that for 700 years...





Azeri Turks see themselves as Turks as much as Kurds see themselves as Turks... You need to live in Iran or talk with Azeri Turks in Iran to understand that. Azeri Turks in Iran would support the state and Persian people gainst a foreign threat but they don't see themselves as Persians and got really angry if someone claim that.

WHAT THE **** ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

I go Iran all the time and meet azeri all the time. all of them are as much persian as the rest of us. and love our culture. please make a video of you calling one of them a turk.
you need to go Iran and quit this BS. just because some azerbajini says something you believe them?

all of azerbajian belongs to us and so do all of kurdistan. they are nothing but iranic people.
man I am so surprised with the amount of lies you people believe.

 

[Surenas]

Mary Boyce on Zoroastrianism:

''Zoroastrianism is the oldest of the revealed world-religions, and it has probably had more influence on mankind, directly and indirectly, than any other single faith."

Mary Boyce, Zoroastrians: Their Religious Beliefs and Practices (London: Routledge and Kegan Paul, 1979, p. 1)

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

I demand you a list of scientist in Ommayed dynasty .
well the answer is that under the rule of that tyrannical and oppressive dynasty you cant find any.


I demand you a list of scientist in Ommayed dynasty .
well the answer is that under the rule of that tyrannical and oppressive dynasty you cant find any.

I hope that I clarified things to you. I am giong to make a complete sub in a new thread about Arab conquest of the so called "Persia". Until then, have fun revising my posts here. oh and don't forget the videos, watch them all plz .

 

[Deno]

Voltaire on Turks:

I respect Voltaire understanding of free speech... He was more of a libertarian than most of the politicians but he was an Turkophile... Do you want me to take him seiorusly?

Turks by the time of Ottomans were more advanced than Persians which were under rule of another Turkish dynasty... You can't even compere the Ottomans and Safavids which were Turk or any other Iranian ruler again which were Turk...