Start of Hybrid War against Pakistan to Industrial Scale

[Irfan Baloch]

• European Union Disinformation Lab
• Funding TTP, BLA, BLM, MQM
• Airline hijack plot
• Propaganda to prevent international cricket in Pakistan

 

[R Wing]

• European Union Disinformation Lab
• Funding TTP, BLA, BLM, MQM
• Airline hijack plot
• Propaganda to prevent international cricket in Pakistan

Sir --- nothing new here, except we --- as always --- have been slower to the game.

Obviously, India has more funds, more people spread out across the world and gets a free pass from the West. The last point is critical. The West has never even called out India's state sponsorship of terrorism (Baloch militancy) publicly, even though they freely acknowledge it privately.

Another thing I've noticed is that the Indian nat sec establishment is empowered and civilian. They have an actual HAWK running things and private capacities are much more readily accessible and deployed (i.e. specific firms for the disinfo efforst). Doval could sell Moeed Yusuf (zero operational experience or skin in the game of any kind, though of course Dr. Yusuf is a smart guy too) in the streets and Moeed wouldn't know what happened. This is the difference.

We do not value hawks. We feel threatened by them because they force us to introspect, get off our asses, and actually challenge the status quo and new normal. Hawks in Pakistan are therefore equated with idiots who are encouraging open war. Not at all. A hawk simply realizes that the world operates on the basis of realpolitik, not some utopian, hopeful vision of international justice, and appropriate (covert) measures should be taken to keep deterrence alive.

When Indian policymakers don't fear a major backlash against their citizens or their officers, why would they not keep indulging in supporting terrorism, disinfo and other things against Pak? We are rolling out the red carpet for them, because we like to expend our blood and treasure on the brainwashed militants and their commanders, not the backers. Failed strategy that has increased instability. This is why I pray that things get better when the pacifist leaves GHQ.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Sir --- nothing new here, except we --- as always --- have been slower to the game.

Obviously, India has more funds, more people spread out across the world and gets a free pass from the West. The last point is critical. The West has never even called out India's state sponsorship of terrorism (Baloch militancy) publicly, even though they freely acknowledge it privately.

Another thing I've noticed is that the Indian nat sec establishment is empowered and civilian. They have an actual HAWK running things and private capacities are much more readily accessible and deployed (i.e. specific firms for the disinfo efforst). Doval could sell Moeed Yusuf (zero operational experience or skin in the game of any kind, though of course Dr. Yusuf is a smart guy too) in the streets and Moeed wouldn't know what happened. This is the difference.

We do not value hawks. We feel threatened by them because they force us to introspect, get off our asses, and actually challenge the status quo and new normal. Hawks in Pakistan are therefore equated with idiots who are encouraging open war. Not at all. A hawk simply realizes that the world operates on the basis of realpolitik, not some utopian, hopeful vision of international justice, and appropriate (covert) measures should be taken to keep deterrence alive.

When Indian policymakers don't fear a major backlash against their citizens or their officers, why would they not keep indulging in supporting terrorism, disinfo and other things against Pak? We are rolling out the red carpet for them, because we like to expend our blood and treasure on the brainwashed militants and their commanders, not the backers. Failed strategy that has increased instability. This is why I pray that things get better when the pacifist leaves GHQ.

our pro Indian pacifists are political affectees of GHQ so they make pro Indian love songs to provoke Pakistan military. some of them are posh liberals who do it as a current fashion statement.

Maryam Nawaz is next level in that provocation by actually adapting and promoting anti Pakistan propoganda.


India is more blatant because it is encouraged by Western support. if it gets a chance ot will even shoot down our passenger plane or sink a commercial ship unlike us who have only forced their submarines to surface and leave our waters since we lack domestic appetite for war and no support internationally.

 

[Norwegian]

Vlogger says India's policies to contain and isolate Pakistan started in the late 90s after Pakistan had already helped start insurgency in Indian occupied Kashmir. So basically what India did to Pakistan was a reaction to something what Pakistan was already doing to India in Kashmir. Can we thus blame these reactionary policies to India only? What about Pakistan's intervention in Indian occupied Kashmir?

• European Union Disinformation Lab
• Funding TTP, BLA, BLM, MQM
• Airline hijack plot
• Propaganda to prevent international cricket in Pakistan

Sir --- nothing new here, except we --- as always --- have been slower to the game.

Obviously, India has more funds, more people spread out across the world and gets a free pass from the West. The last point is critical. The West has never even called out India's state sponsorship of terrorism (Baloch militancy) publicly, even though they freely acknowledge it privately.

Another thing I've noticed is that the Indian nat sec establishment is empowered and civilian. They have an actual HAWK running things and private capacities are much more readily accessible and deployed (i.e. specific firms for the disinfo efforst). Doval could sell Moeed Yusuf (zero operational experience or skin in the game of any kind, though of course Dr. Yusuf is a smart guy too) in the streets and Moeed wouldn't know what happened. This is the difference.

We do not value hawks. We feel threatened by them because they force us to introspect, get off our asses, and actually challenge the status quo and new normal. Hawks in Pakistan are therefore equated with idiots who are encouraging open war. Not at all. A hawk simply realizes that the world operates on the basis of realpolitik, not some utopian, hopeful vision of international justice, and appropriate (covert) measures should be taken to keep deterrence alive.

When Indian policymakers don't fear a major backlash against their citizens or their officers, why would they not keep indulging in supporting terrorism, disinfo and other things against Pak? We are rolling out the red carpet for them, because we like to expend our blood and treasure on the brainwashed militants and their commanders, not the backers. Failed strategy that has increased instability. This is why I pray that things get better when the pacifist leaves GHQ.

 

[Kompromat]

We can rip India's lungs out in a few years.

 

[Dalit]

@cloud4000 LOL congrats with your back to back losses in the T20 WC.

 

[cloud4000]

@cloud4000 LOL congrats with your back to back losses in the T20 WC.

Yes, two humiliating outings. Still an outside chance of advancing as the next three matches are against Afghanistan, Scotland, and Nambia.

And who made these groupings? Why is Group A top-heavy whilst Group B has so many minnows?

 

[Dalit]

Yes, two humiliating outings. Still an outside chance of advancing as the next three matches are against Afghanistan, Scotland, and Nambia.

And who made these groupings? Why is Group A top-heavy whilst Group B has so many minnows?

LOL yeah it is a conspiracy.

 

[Genghis khan1]

Vlogger says India's policies to contain and isolate Pakistan started in the late 90s after Pakistan had already helped start insurgency in Indian occupied Kashmir. So basically what India did to Pakistan was a reaction to something what Pakistan was already doing to India in Kashmir. Can we thus blame these reactionary policies to India only? What about Pakistan's intervention in Indian occupied Kashmir?
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One is a disputed territory other is not. This opens door for Pakistan to support groups in mainland India.

 

[TheTallGuy]

We can rip India's lungs out in a few years.

you see years...the way things are going at Pakistan end...we do not have even a year...

Economy is not going to hold ...and loans getting quadruple with devalue Rs. only way out is war!

i find current situation reminiscent of Inter-war Germany

Hunger and desperation leads to war

 

[R Wing]

our pro Indian pacifists are political affectees of GHQ so they make pro Indian love songs to provoke Pakistan military. some of them are posh liberals who do it as a current fashion statement.

Maryam Nawaz is next level in that provocation by actually adapting and promoting anti Pakistan propoganda.


India is more blatant because it is encouraged by Western support. if it gets a chance ot will even shoot down our passenger plane or sink a commercial ship unlike us who have only forced their submarines to surface and leave our waters since we lack domestic appetite for war and no support internationally.

Absolutely.

But GHQ is primarily to blame. It is their duty to guard our interests. They have not been doing that. Clownish and evil politicians will always come and go.

We can rip India's lungs out in a few years.

Your boundless enthusiasm is always nice. But we've been hoping and hearing grand things for over a decade now.

 

[Wood]

Both India and Pakistan have a common root cause for all their problems. It is called over population with respect to the resources available for the country!

 

[TheTallGuy]

Both India and Pakistan have a common root cause for all their problems. It is called over population with respect to the resources available for the country!

Root cause is Active border dispute..erase that --no need for large Armies - leads to better economy and uplift of population...

Developing Countries and Developed countries

find something common in developed countries.

 

[Wood]

Root cause is Active border dispute..erase that --no need for large Armies - leads to better economy and uplift of population...

Developing Countries and Developed countries

find something common in developed countries.

I see the border dispute as a symptom of distrust between Hindus and Muslims in subcontinent; add the real and present competition for water resources in the area to this.

The border dispute itself is not the reason for poverty in the subcontinent. Per capita income in the region has been perennially low in these countries because people are less productive. This will not simply correct itself if the border tension. When we look at developed countries, there is an overwhelming abundance of resources that most of these countries are blessed with. The subcontinent does not have enough of it in relation to its population size. In the absence of native resources, only an outside 'pick me up' card can lead to prosperity!

PS: These are just my opinions. I do not claim them to be facts.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Can we thus blame these reactionary policies to India only? What about Pakistan's intervention in Indian occupied Kashmir?

No. Do you have blinkers on like a donkey? What about Indian intervention in Bangla 1971? We can't be blamed for the reaction.