South China Sea Forum

[cirr]

Subi Island 22.02.2015

Actions speak louder than words。

Subi Island and ROC's Taiping Island（Itu Aba Island）to the same scale

 

[cirr]

CCG 1305，a new member in China's maritime law enforcement force

 

[ahojunk]

Subi looks to be another big island in the making.

The other big islands in the SCS are Yongxing (Woody), Yongshu (Fiery Cross). Very soon, Subi will be bigger than Taiping. From what I gather Huayang (Cuarteron) will also be bigger than Taiping.

Taiping Island is not that big after all.

Does anyone has statistics of the SCS island sizes?
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[BoQ77]

Thanks Chinese members to provide more evidences of China illegal occupation in SCS.
We would fight by peaceful way at the court.

 

[BoQ77]

The Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer USS Michael Murphy (DDG 112), right, and the French navy frigate FS Vendemiaire (F734) conduct a passing exercise while operating in the South China Sea

 

[Martian2]

Chinese YJ-18 Aegis-killer missile trumps Arleigh Burke

How long do you think an Arleigh Burke would last against 12 simultaneous-incoming Chinese YJ-18 Aegis-killer missiles from all directions (e.g. 1 o'clock through 12 o'clock)?
One minute?
For those that have never seen this video, the Chinese YJ-18 warhead maneuvers evasively to home-in on the target-ship before impact.

 

[BoQ77]

Under Secretary Gottemoeller Travels to the Philippines, Vietnam, Australia and New Zealand

Media Note
Office of the Spokesperson
Washington, DC
February 25, 2015

Rose Gottemoeller, Under Secretary of State for Arms Control and International Security, will travel to Manila, Quang Tri province, Hanoi, Canberra, Sydney, and Wellington for meetings with counterparts from February 27–March 9.

From February 27–March 1, Under Secretary Gottemoeller will visit the Philippines, meeting in Manila with senior Department of Foreign Affairs and Department of National Defense officials to discuss regional security, bilateral security cooperation, maritime security, and the upcoming Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty Review Conference (NPT RevCon). On February 28, the Under Secretary will visit Subic Naval Station and tour the Philippines Navy Frigate BRP 15 Gregorio del Pilar.

On March 1–2, Under Secretary Gottemoeller will travel to Quang Tri Province in Vietnam to observe U.S.-funded efforts to survey and clear Unexploded Ordnance (UXO) of war. She will also meet with provincial level authorities and non-governmental organizations.

On March 3, the Under Secretary will travel to Hanoi to discuss the U.S.-Vietnam bilateral relationship during the 20thanniversary of normalized relations, as well as regional security, security cooperation, maritime security, and the upcoming NPT RevCon with her Vietnamese counterparts.

From March 4–5, Under Secretary Gottemoeller will meet with counterparts from the Australian Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade and the Department of Defence to discuss U.S.-Australia defense cooperation, regional security, and other international security topics in Canberra. On March 5, she will also deliver the Robert O’Neill Lecture at the Australian National University. The title of the remarks is “Stemming the Nuclear Tide: The Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty at 45.”

On March 6, Under Secretary Gottemoeller will deliver remarks at the University of Sydney on “The Role of the United States in Asia-Pacific Security.”

On March 9, Under Secretary Gottemoeller will meet with Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade and Ministry of Defence officials to discuss international security issues in Wellington, New Zealand. The Under Secretary will speak with area students about Science, Technology, Engineering, and Mathematics (STEM) education and she will also deliver remarks on the NPT RevCon at the New Zealand Institute of International Affairs (NZIIA).

For updates, follow Under Secretary Rose Gottemoeller on Twitter: @Gottemoeller

Chinese YJ-18 Aegis-killer missile trumps Arleigh Burke

How long do you think an Arleigh Burke would last against 12 simultaneous-incoming Chinese YJ-18 Aegis-killer missiles from all directions (e.g. 1 o'clock through 12 o'clock)?
One minute?
For those that have never seen this video, the Chinese YJ-18 warhead maneuvers evasively to home-in on the target-ship before impact.

In paper, it takes only 1 second. Anyway, what's YJ-18 ?
How's about SM-6 ?
RIM-162 ESSM ?

 

[ahojunk]

Progress of Yongshu Island in pictures, from 8 Aug 2014 to 8 Jan 2015, i.e. over 5 months.

The progress is just incredible.

 

[Place Of Space]

Progress of Yongshu Island in pictures, from 8 Aug 2014 to 8 Jan 2015, i.e. over 5 months. The progress is incredible, isn't it?

View attachment 196676

Good jobs. China has showed goodwill of negotiation to neighbors for 30 years, with no positive feedback. It's time to do some effective things, otherwise those neighboring guys are still living in daydreams.

 

[70U63]

Good jobs. China has showed goodwill of negotiation to neighbors for 30 years, with no positive feedback. It's time to do some effective things, otherwise those neighboring guys are still living in daydreams.

Should be building and negotiating at the same time.
China is quite late to the 'party', that's why a lot of reefs and islands have been occupied by other nations.

 

[Place Of Space]

G3 of Cairo Conference in 1943, issued an ultimatum to Nazi Japan.

 

[Martian2]

Dragon vs. Eagle: South China Sea balance of power

China is currently reclaiming seven islands with 600 acres of land in the South China Sea. In comparison, the United States has 11 aircraft carriers with a surface area of four acres each. In total, the U.S. has 44 acres.

The advantage of the U.S. 44 acres is its mobility. However, the disadvantage is those 44 acres can be sunk.

China's 600 acres are unsinkable. Also, China is busy building its own aircraft carriers to level the playing field.

In conclusion, China is winning the South China Sea stare-down. China is likely to reclaim islands beyond the seven currently. In three years, Chengdu J-20 heavy stealth fighters will augment Chinese firepower in the South China Sea. Around 2020, we may see the emergence of Chinese Nimitz-class supercarriers.
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McCain Points To ‘Dramatic Change’ In Chinese-Built Islands | Breaking Defense - Defense industry news, analysis and commentary

 

[Nike]

Dragon vs. Eagle: South China Sea balance of power

China is currently reclaiming seven islands with 600 acres of land in the South China Sea. In comparison, the United States has 11 aircraft carriers with a surface area of four acres each. In total, the U.S. has 44 acres.

The advantage of the U.S. 44 acres is its mobility. However, the disadvantage is those 44 acres can be sunk.

China's 600 acres are unsinkable. Also, China is busy building its own aircraft carriers to level the playing field.

In conclusion, China is winning the South China Sea stare-down. China is likely to reclaim islands beyond the seven currently. In three years, Chengdu J-20 heavy stealth fighters will augment Chinese firepower in the South China Sea. Around 2020, we may see the emergence of Chinese Nimitz-class supercarriers.
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McCain Points To ‘Dramatic Change’ In Chinese-Built Islands | Breaking Defense - Defense industry news, analysis and commentary

yeah-yeah whatever you said, you made bad example for much Chinese member with your own stupidity. Just tell what happened to the unsinkable Japanese fortress in Peleliu, Okinawa, Tarawa, Guam, Iwo Jima in WW II? and then right now Chinese think they are clever enough not to repeat the same mistakes

 

[jhungary]

yeah-yeah whatever you said, you made bad example for much Chinese member with your own stupidity. Just tell what happened to the unsinkable Japanese fortress in Peleliu, Okinawa, Tarawa, Guam, Iwo Jima in WW II? and then right now Chinese think they are clever enough not to repeat the same mistakes

first time I ever heard of an comparasion of an Island to Aircraft Carrier, I dont know what @Martian2 is smoking but I want some of that...

An Island is not the same as an aircraft carrier, primarily because you can move an Aircraft Carrier but you cant move an Island.

Also an Island defence would only be a good initiative when you can defend them. Air, Land and Sea, and if you cant, then that would only be a giant graveyard for the defender. Simply because you would have nowhere to run...

 

[Martian2]

China is building an anti-stealth Integrated Air Defense Network in the South China Sea

Imagery shows progress of Chinese land building across Spratlys - IHS Jane's 360