South China Sea Forum

[Battle of Bach Dang River]

U.S. Navy
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SOUTH CHINA SEA (Oct. 31, 2012) Sailors assigned to the Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer USS McCampbell (DDG 85) conduct a replenishment-at-sea with the Military Sealift Command fleet replenishment oiler USNS Amelia Earheart (T-AKE 6). McCampbell is part of the George Washington Carrier Strike Group, the U.S. Navy’s only continuously forward-deployed carrier strike group, based out of Yokosuka, Japan, and is currently conducting a routine patrol in the western Pacific region supporting regional security and stability of the vital Asia-Pacific region. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist Seaman Declan Barnes/Released) U.S. Navy — Gerald Andre Battle, Frank Nguyen Ngoc Thach và Antoni Jorge Gonzalez

 

[cirr]

The Vietnamses must love the Americans, for the latter killed hundreds of thousands of the former, burned down thousands of villages and gave the whole country a chemical-wash.

The Americans are now back!

In order for the Vietnamses to love the Americans, the latter must redo what it did during the 1960s and 70s.

Such is the irony and logic of history and human mind.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

this never happened, if the Indian leadership believes some ten year broadcasting into an open channel then you got far bigger problems to worry about than china

What is the bolded part supposed to mean

 

[gambit]

The Vietnamses must love the Americans, for the latter killed hundreds of thousands of the former, burned down thousands of villages and gave the whole country a chemical-wash.

The Americans are now back!

In order for the Vietnamses to love the Americans, the latter must redo what it did during the 1960s and 70s.

Such is the irony and logic of history and human mind.

If you have to resort to this kind of hyperboles, it means you have no credible arguments. By the way, given how China adopts many things 'Western' considering how China was carved up by the Europeans, how much love does China have for them?

 

[Viet]

The Vietnamses must love the Americans, for the latter killed hundreds of thousands of the former, burned down thousands of villages and gave the whole country a chemical-wash.

The Americans are now back!

In order for the Vietnamses to love the Americans, the latter must redo what it did during the 1960s and 70s.

Such is the irony and logic of history and human mind.

The US comes back as friend. How is about China?

 

[jhungary]

What the american do here is simple, sending a message said "WE ARE HERE TO STAY"

With the latest development of Australia housing 2500 US Marine started this year, we can see more US/Asian-Oceanian(Never used this word before, am i correct?)

Currently a US 7th Fleet ship will stop at Yokosuka, Japan (Home Base) Pusan, Korea, Keilong or Hong Kong, Guam, Pakistan, India, Thailand, Indonesia, Philippines, PNG, Australia (Either Brisbane or Perth) New Zealand, Vietnam.

If a Chinese Navy ship goes out at sea, they can stop at Pakistan, Hong Kong, then it need to turn back....

Although i am not really pro-anything to begin with, you can't help but see how US Foreign Relation trump China....

 

[gambit]

The US comes back as friend. How is about China?

As conqueror.

 

[Battle of Bach Dang River]

The Vietnamses must love the Americans, for the latter killed hundreds of thousands of the former, burned down thousands of villages and gave the whole country a chemical-wash.

The Americans are now back!

In order for the Vietnamses to love the Americans, the latter must redo what it did during the 1960s and 70s.

Such is the irony and logic of history and human mind.

If we keep hatred with our former-enemies, China is ranked as No 1.

Do you encourage that ? [keeping hatred].

 

[WS-10 Engine]

As conqueror.

Who is the conqueror?
Conquered who?

 

[BigDaddyWatch]

Right now i fear America's economic weakness far more than America's military strength. There is no chance of China and America getting into a direct military confrontation but the effect of the coming economic collapse in America and the dollar will hurt the people not only in China but around the world much more. The Americans are such a tease, what scoundrels they are getting the world on a dollar standard and then print the currency into oblivions.

 

[Zero_wing]

S. China Sea fleet holds landing drill
11-05-2012 14:26 BJT

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The Chinese Navy’s South China Sea Fleet has held a landing drill in waters of the South China Sea. The drill involved a formation of destroyers, frigates, landing ships and submarines. The formation first practised using electromagnetic interference equipment.

Meanwhile, a missile was launched to practice defending against incoming aircraft and missiles. Artillery on board ships then fired at fixed targets on shore.

As the drill continued, damage to ships and casualties were simulated.

Under cover of the fleet formation, amphibious armored vehicles, and hovercrafts launched the last wave of attacks on enemy targets, and reclaimed islands occupied by enemy forces.

Target practice for our new spike missiles and our terradores (Marksman's) and other claimants which can defend themselves do yourselves a favor stop being warmongers and better solve this diplomatically like everyone else love to do why do you people love war think you can win against the whole world

 

[yusheng]

Target practice for our new spike missiles and our terradores (Marksman's) and other claimants which can defend themselves do yourselves a favor stop being warmongers and better solve this diplomatically like everyone else love to do why do you people love war think you can win against the whole world

We don't love war.

but the mission of PLA is defending our country and our people, of course they need exercise, and i can of course report the drill.

why not show our muscle to those who have illusion?

if you think the drill spot is your territory, why not give us a so called missile?

 

[jhungary]

If we keep hatred with our former-enemies, China is ranked as No 1.

Do you encourage that ? [keeping hatred].

There are no definite or absolute enemy in this world anymore, any of your enemy can be your friend under some circumstance, or any of your friend could suddently turn against you at some time.

We see that in the history many many time. How Hilter Betray Russia and how Russia betray Poland, How Germany become Allied foremost important power after WW2, how Japan become US Allied after WW2. How US help Iran and finally turn against them, How Egypt and Israel are on Status Quo after 40 years of war, How Tailban help and betray first soviet union then the US.

I can't even name them all and those are just in the recent 100 years. When you fought a war, you fought with the government, not the country, when the regime has fall, so should the hatred. People who keep their hatred and think too much in the past will NOT progress as they will just ended up hating everybody, there are nothing but self regret in the end, China will never be a superpower if they cannot figure this out, doesn't matter how strong their economic are. YOu will have no friend, and most of your power is coming from your friend as one country, no matter how big is it, cannot survive.

 

[Zero_wing]

There are no definite or absolute enemy in this world anymore, any of your enemy can be your friend under some circumstance, or any of your friend could suddently turn against you at some time.

We see that in the history many many time. How Hilter Betray Russia and how Russia betray Poland, How Germany become Allied foremost important power after WW2, how Japan become US Allied after WW2. How US help Iran and finally turn against them, How Egypt and Israel are on Status Quo after 40 years of war, How Tailban help and betray first soviet union then the US.

I can't even name them all and those are just in the recent 100 years. When you fought a war, you fought with the government, not the country, when the regime has fall, so should the hatred. People who keep their hatred and think too much in the past will NOT progress as they will just ended up hating everybody, there are nothing but self regret in the end, China will never be a superpower if they cannot figure this out, doesn't matter how strong their economic are. YOu will have no friend, and most of your power is coming from your friend as one country, no matter how big is it, cannot survive.

No true words were ever spoken now its up to our chinese forumers to understand and think about

 

[Battle of Bach Dang River]

There are no definite or absolute enemy in this world anymore, any of your enemy can be your friend under some circumstance, or any of your friend could suddently turn against you at some time.

We see that in the history many many time. How Hilter Betray Russia and how Russia betray Poland, How Germany become Allied foremost important power after WW2, how Japan become US Allied after WW2. How US help Iran and finally turn against them, How Egypt and Israel are on Status Quo after 40 years of war, How Tailban help and betray first soviet union then the US.

I can't even name them all and those are just in the recent 100 years. When you fought a war, you fought with the government, not the country, when the regime has fall, so should the hatred. People who keep their hatred and think too much in the past will NOT progress as they will just ended up hating everybody, there are nothing but self regret in the end, China will never be a superpower if they cannot figure this out, doesn't matter how strong their economic are. YOu will have no friend, and most of your power is coming from your friend as one country, no matter how big is it, cannot survive.

Our Chinese friends want us Vietnamse keep hatred with Americans forever, but they (Chinese) ignore their own invasions of our country.

In fact, China has been causing us most of troubles:
- They were the first guys invaded our country (in 207 BC), and they were also the last guys to invade our country (until 1988)
- They had most numbers of invasions our country.
- They targeted even Vietnamese civilians professedly with a policy of "scorched earth" the most brutal.
- Today they are still occupied illegally some territory of Vietnam after 1974 military invasion at Paracel Islands of Vietnam.
- Today they are still often threatening to attack us....