Solution for Karachi's Endless and Mindless Violence!

[Nothing4U]

its very bad

 

[Solomon2]

You are right but none of the experiments you mentioned above, have been applied in actual. These are yet to be enforced in true manner.

You are that confident of your grip of Pakistani history to be sure that is the case?

 

[ice_man]

Well if you are talking about ethnic groups then bihari/muhajirs are in majority



I dont know where you heard those lines maybe it is your imagination
as far as law and order is concerned
People of orangi town were being killed since three days and the police or rangers were doing nothing
after three days rangers took control of kati pahari
No rangers official were harmed and no terrorists were harmed in the takeover of kati pahari It proves the involvement of the government in this bloodshed

The only solution is that since the police is not supposed to protect the people in orangi town .Now the people of Orangi should be able to defend themselves and and take revenge whenever possible so that this type of incident will not happen for the third time in future

yes i know your leader said this sell your jewellery buy guns and learn karate!

 

[S.M.R]

You are that confident of your grip of Pakistani history to be sure that is the case?

Not that strong, but we have learnt that none of the party is sincere in solving the issues of Karachi. As the establishment doesnt want MQM to prevail therefore for check and balance they have used sometimes Punjabis, sometimes ANP and of course sometimes forces.

 

[ice_man]

Not that strong, but we have learnt that none of the party is sincere in solving the issues of Karachi. As the establishment doesnt want MQM to prevail therefore for check and balance they have used sometimes Punjabis, sometimes ANP and of course sometimes forces.

so is MQM a "MUTHAIDA PARTY" or is it a city party or is it an ethnic party??? because clearly you are back to talking about karachi and you forget that karachi has all ethnicities.... and if the "establishment" didn't want MQM to prevail then why did MQM flourish under"ESTABLISHMENT" rule (MUSHARRAF) who actually introudced your nazim system!

 

[S.M.R]

so is MQM a "MUTHAIDA PARTY" or is it a city party or is it an ethnic party??? because clearly you are back to talking about karachi and you forget that karachi has all ethnicities.... and if the "establishment" didn't want MQM to prevail then why did MQM flourish under"ESTABLISHMENT" rule (MUSHARRAF) who actually introudced your nazim system!

Besides all, MQM has clear majority over all the parties / ethnics. I used the word 'sometimes'. MQM was the ally of Musharraf and he did not do with MQM what establishments have been doing in other eras. Even musharraf was blamed that he is taking side of MQM bcaz he himself is a 'Mohajir'.

Nazim system was a bless for Karachi, which you can compare the level of development during Nazim system with those of Commissionary system.

 

[Solomon2]

Not that strong, but we have learnt that none of the party is sincere in solving the issues of Karachi. As the establishment doesnt want MQM to prevail therefore for check and balance they have used sometimes Punjabis, sometimes ANP and of course sometimes forces.

The MQM is a grassroots party, but its dictatorial structure and torture chambers are things worth opposing, don't you agree?

 

[BelligerentPacifist]

torture chambers

The ones whose presence was made up? Or the ones the party's workers went to?!

 

[Solomon2]

The ones whose presence was made up? Or the ones the party's workers went to?!

Come to think of it, I'm really not sure. I have one reference to them but it seems the ISI might have had a hand in the matter.

 

[Bratva]

The ones whose presence was made up? Or the ones the party's workers went to?!

Why are you such naive person, Major Number of target killers arrested this year belonged to MQM and their confession statements were also published in "THE NEWS" english newspaper. You should read more newspaper Buddy to get your self acquainted with situation on Ground.


P.S. i wonder why this terminology "Bori Band Laashay " is associated with MQM.

 

[Nothing4U]

Come to think of it, I'm really not sure. I have one reference to them but it seems the ISI might have had a hand in the matter.

and how did you came to this idea???, ISI is a pakistani property, why would it do something to damage pakistan itself??

 

[Solomon2]

and how did you came to this idea???, ISI is a pakistani property, why would it do something to damage pakistan itself??

Oooboy, is that a long answer! Basically the idea is that the ISI works to secure military primacy in Pakistan, so it foments violence and dissension that can be blamed on "incompetent" civilian or Taliban-type political parties, thus compelling the public to seek military rule as a desirable alternative.

Numerous references are out there. You might want to read Crossed Swords by Shuja Nawaz.

 

[Bratva]

Oooboy, is that a long answer! Basically the idea is that the ISI works to secure military primacy in Pakistan, so it foments violence and dissension that can be blamed on "incompetent" civilian or Taliban-type political parties, thus compelling the public to seek military rule as a desirable alternative.

Numerous references are out there. You might want to read Crossed Swords by Shuja Nawaz.

Mr.Solomon 2, stop spreading your conspiracy theories here, We are discussing some serious local issues. We don't want your "Usual" rhetoric. thank you

 

[Bratva]

Wrong Post.

 

[shuakataftab]

Why are you such naive person, Major Number of target killers arrested this year belonged to MQM and their confession statements were also published in "THE NEWS" english newspaper. You should read more newspaper Buddy to get your self acquainted with situation on Ground.

Well i dont think Zulfiqar mirza or qaim ali shah are stupid enough to let the police arrest ppp's target killers/ kidnappers / gangsters