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Buy the F-16s from Vanazuellan sent them for upgrades to Turkey and bill to US.
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why buy old when getting new.another PAF f16 unveiled.
PAF F-16C block 52 #10901 is taxiing by the lens at NAS Fort Worth on December 15th, 2009 after performing a functional check flight
Guys be realistic. F16 is still the workhorse of United States Air Force and will remain to be in the next decade and even longer. The most technologically advanced and efficient and superior Air Force in the World uses F16s for almost all of her air-to-air and air-to-ground operations in Iraq and Afghanistan and elsewhere should tell you something about the capabilities of the Plane.
I don't think PAF would buy used F-16s unless they're in good condition. They would rather go for spanking new JF-17s than old F16s jets.
Stealth Fighter jets are a burden on economy and useless. We have not seen them in any action in the Past 10 years nor will we see them in the next couple of decades. $50,000 per flying hour in maintanence costs. Practically speaking it costs too much to maintain, it is not worth the money. Therefore we cant afford them and should rather invest in counter stealth systems.
All F-16's are combat proven. We don't know yet how the JF-17 will fare in air to air combat and it still lacks modern components and is a conventional aircraft not designed for air superiority as the F-16 as nearly all of its components have Chinese input..
F-16's old and new have already been proven.
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I just thought it would be a good idea , since Venezuela is having serious problems with its fleet of f16 fighters , and US companies do not want to supply them parts
So might a well sell off these assets to third party and right now
US-Pakistan are allies (Nato Allies) so I do not see any objection to these birds flying in Pakistan Airforce
May be if we run MLU on this birds, it would be great addition a full squadron , and we can may be retire a older squadron with these birds.
I heard they got these F16 in 90's or so so I think if we update them with MLU upgrade and may be they can serve us better
We were suppose to get 70 F16 in 90's so if we get these 24 at least it wll cover some gaps
Venezuella can may be get more K8 - or other Chinese planes for its needs.... for which it can get parts for it. Or sell them Mig variant fighters
Otherwise what is the use for having planes that cannot fly on missions? Just waste of money
Perhaps our Airforce should consider this option
Venezuella gets :
a) 10 K-8 (with parts and service) [Trainers , light fighters]
b) 10 Chinese fighters (J10) or 15 (J-7)
c) Plus cash 20 million cash or 10 Al Khalid Tanks (Evaluation)
d) 50 shoulder fired anza stingers (Evaluation discount)
Also K-8 is good platform for their anti drug initiatives
MOU on energy projects , oil vs 18 FC-1 purchase
Pakistan gets :
24 F16 - negotiates MLU from USA, we upgrade these to C/D Block levels
I mean we are getting extra MLU kits arent we ?
US gets :
Knows the vipers are in allied forces , and also it will create work in F16 upgrade and
engineering sector in US. These fleet we can just get these upgraded in US 2 plane at time, while Turkey upgrades our existing fleet, US biggest concern is that these planes do not go to other states it does not gets along with
Pakistan Prespective
F16 : A/B 45 F16 Upgraded to Block C/D level 90%
F16: C/D 18+14 , 18(Option) = 50
F16: A/B 24 if we purchase these with US permission from Vanezuella Upgraded to Block C/D level 90%
119 ~ F16 Vipers to counter Indian 125 fighter MRCA
Mean while our JF17 Thunder & J10B would go head to head with Sukhoi & Mirage2000
So it would be a good strategic balance ... untill India inducts the stealth fighters in 2020
Come on all of you guys have samethng to say over and over again i.e f-16's are combat proven so what? now they are aging and if u still wana argue on combat proven f-16's thn f-86 sabres were also combat proven what was the need to retire them ,why dun have them till 2025
if the only thng which matters is combat proveness then why the hell USA and other airforces are replacing there f-16s
Reason is
Evry aircrafts has its time when it gains peak but with time span new tech replaces it like the f-86 were replaced by f-4 and others and f-4 and f-20 were replaced by f-16 and now f-16 should be replaced by sumthng better
and let me explain u another thng , the combats in which f-16 proved their worth are not fought by airforces of same callibre ...People always talk about Afghanistan and Iraq tell me onethng what Aircrafts taliban had or have? and what Iraqi airfrce got? few old migs?
if just bombing on the country which has zero airforce is combat provenss then believe me any aircraft even our A-5's can do it
Aamir Hussain And what about the Isreali combat record on F-16 against Syrian planes in Bekka Valley
My friend in your zeal to promote the JF-17 and other Chinese hardware (A good a/c and proud of it) let us not try to bring down what is a proven tactical strike platform.
Without doubt the US R&D has been on the cutting edge and benefitting from the global deployment needs of their forces.
do u thnk syrian airforce was on par with Isreal? and by the way that was due to poor quality of tactics...if u know alot than you should also b aware of the fact that most of the aircrafts were destroyed on the ground...giving no chance to the aircrafts to get one on one...n u should also remebr what happened when Paf pilots went there
Um not promoting jf-17 and if anyone promotes it wats wrong in it its our aircraft made by us every country promotes their equipment and harware..look at the indians instead of LCA not operational still they promote and admire it its natural...u are an exception
I din say that US tech is not gud no doubt its outstanding um just saying f-16 are too old they have many more aircrafts better than f-16 now ..no doubt f-16 is the workhorse of USAF but also have to admit the fact that f-16 is the least capable aircraft in USAF
World is moving on and u have to move on ....we had enough of f-16 era now its time to move on ....u cant compare f-16 in lights of SU-30,su-47,F-15strike eagle and slam eagle,f-22,f-35.rafale,ef-2000 stuff
My friend, are we getting any of the SU's the Rafale's or the Euro's that we are peddling here? Getting tired of our toys and wanting new ones is one thing but actually someone agreeing to give it to you and your affordability is an altogether a different thing.
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