Shahrukh Khan exposes Indian secularism

[INDIC]

Nehru was a muslim hater.Because of people like him muslims started independence struggle. He was worrid why there are muslims in positions of authority.



They left because of your anti muslim policies?

Only Punjab was riot hit. Others left for job opportunities in Pakistan that's why they mainly settled in Capital Karachi. Sindhi thought after Hindus will leave everything will be theirs but Muhajirs replaced Hindus in Sindh.

 

[Don Jaguar]

@Raja.Pakistani & @Don Jaguar


UNHCR | Refworld | Chronology for Hindus in Pakistan


Date(s) Item
Nov 1990 Security forces moved to protect Hindu temples in Pakistan as thousands of Muslims protested against attacks on Muslims in India. The actions in northern India followed attempts by Hindus to raze the centuries-old Babri Masjid (mosque). Anti-Hindu protests were staged outside temples in cities and towns of southern Pakistan where most of the Pakistani Hindus live. According to the latest reports, one Hindu man was killed and four temples were damaged by Muslim demonstrators.


Dec 1992 Muslims attacked temples across Pakistan and the government of this overwhelmingly Muslim nation closed offices and schools for one day to protest the destruction of the Babri mosque in India. Marchers shouted slogans such as "Crush India!" and "Death to Hinduism". In Lahore, the capital of Punjab, Muslims used a bulldozer, hammers, and their bare hands to demolish the Jain temple near Punjab University. Police forces did not intervene, nor did they act when a crowd stormed the Air-India office, dragged furniture into the street, and set the office on fire (The New York Times, 12/08/92). Hundreds of members of India's Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party marched on the Pakistan High Commission in New Delhi to protest attacks against Hindus in Pakistan. At least 24 people have been killed in Pakistan and at least 100 temples were attacked by the Muslims (The Dallas Morning News, 12/15/92). Hindus in Pakistan assert that they are regularly accused of being "Indian agents". The intolerance of Pakistani fundamentalists has reportedly grown so strong that some members of religious minorities have begun to adopt Muslim names (The Toronto Star, 12/04/92).


Jan 1993 A comparison between the human rights records of India and Pakistan in 1992, which was released by the US State Department, reveals that if human rights were considered to be abused in India, then the situation in Pakistan could only be described as "appalling", with human rights "brutalized" on a systematic basis. The State Department accused Pakistan of persecuting minority Hindus, Christians and Ahmadis. Hindus asserted that they are subject to kidnappings, the forced conversions of young women, and the desecration of Hindu shrines. They also state that they are not permitted to freely practice their religion (The Ethnic Newswatch, 01/29/93).


Sep 1993 The cabinet of caretaker Prime Minister M. Qureshi has established a Commission on Minorities to look into the grievances of the country's minority communities and to ensure that their shrines, temples and other places of worship are preserved and well-kept. The Commission will consist of official and non-official members. Official members include the Minister in-charge of Minority Affairs and the secretaries of the Ministries of Interior, Education, Law and Parliamentary Affairs.


May 1994 The number of religious minorities charged under Pakistan's restrictive blasphemy law continues to mount. Since 1986, when the law was established, 107 Ahmadis have been charged with blasphemy. The blasphemy law allows a person to register a case against anyone for blaspheming the Prophet Muhammad by word or deed. In 1992, the government of Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif made the death penalty mandatory for blasphemy; in 1993 the law was extended to include the names of the Prophet's family. After months of criticism from local and international human rights groups, Benazir Bhutto has promised to introduce two amendments to the law. The first amendment would ensure that the police register a case only after they are directed to do so by a court of law. The second amendment stipulates a ten year jail term for giving false information. These amendments are supposed to stop the flagrant use of the blasphemy law in order to fulfill personal vendettas. (Far Eastern Economic Review, 05/26/94).


Feb 1995 Although Benazir Bhutto's government had promised last year to introduce amendments to the country's blasphemy law, these amendments have still not gone into effect. In a wave of persecution of non-Muslims, all cremation grounds outside of Sind were closed, preventing Hindus from making funerary arrangements. (London Independent 2/19/95)


Mar 1995 Alleged Hindu infiltrators shot and killed two American diplomats in Karachi. (Japan Economic Newswire 3/8/95)


Feb 1996 Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto approved a parliamentary motion which would allow minorities to have "two votes" - one for the reserved minority seat which they have always had and one for the general parliamentary seat. (Agence France Presse 2/27/96)


Sep 1997 Hundreds of mostly Hindu peasants, waving placards and banners and calling for the release of jailed friends and relatives, protested in Karachi against forced labor in southern Pakistan's Sindh province. Human rights activist Shakeel Pathan said about 4,300 poverty-stricken peasants were languishing in the jails run by influential Sindhi landlords. (Agence France Presse 9/8/97)


Mar 1998 One person was killed and another injured when a paramilitary soldier opened fire on a group of Hindus protesting the national census, in the locality of Jumma Goth in Karachi’s eastern Landi district. Trouble erupted when enumerators carrying out a national census demanded money from the mostly illiterate community for filling in census forms. The officials had earlier rejected forms completed with the help of others. (Agence France Presse 3/7/98)


Aug 1998 Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif proposed a constitutional amendment to make the Koran the supreme law of Pakistan. Deputies from minority communities including Hindus declined to support the measure. (Deutsche Presse-Agentur 9/4/98)


Jun 1999 Pakistan's Minister of Islamic Affairs, Raja Muhammad Zafarul Haq, announced plans to bring websites that are insulting to Islam to the attention of the United Nations and the Organization of Islamic Conference. He noted the existence of at least 125 such websites and mentioned that Hindu parties were connected with them. (Malaysian National News Agency 6/22/99)


Aug 1999 Hundreds of Pakistani Christians as well as Hindus, Parsis and Sikhs staged a rally in Lahore to demand the repeal of laws they said discriminate against non-Moslem minorities in the country. (Agence France Presse 8/11/99)


Oct 1999 The Pakistani Army staged a bloodless coup, removing Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, and placing Gen. Pervez Musharraf in charge of the country.

Off topic.

 

[jetti]

The problem is the attitude of hindus who don't want the muslims to prosper.

There no more than 100 such Indians in a billion Hindus. But in paks 200 millions are hateful of Hindus and jealous of india

 

[Bang Galore]

Nehru was a muslim hater.Because of people like him muslims started independence struggle. He was worrid why there are muslims in positions of authority.

Poor Nehru. He gets hate from Hindu rightwingers because he was a secularist & a "Muslim lover" & he gets hate from the likes of you as well......

They left because of your anti muslim policies?

What policies? India didn't even have a constitution in place till 1950, the Muslims who left had gone by then for the most part.

 

[Don Jaguar]

What rights Hindus denied. Muslims never a part of independent India for you to make his assertion. India wanted a secular state and today we have it where everyone are equal and fair.

Secular.

The rights they wanted before independence.

 

[KRAIT]

List of Hindu Temples Destroyed in India From Pre-Independence time.

http://www.columbia.edu/itc/mealac/pritchett/00islamlinks/txt_eaton_temples1.pdf

 

[Icewolf]

which 1000 yr old mosque.
Most mosque in India are buil after razing temples. Islamic barbarians used to carry Hindu temple materials and build mosques,thus effectively praying to Hindu gods. So most Muslims int Asia are not Muslims at all

Babri Mosque wasnt built on top of a temple.

And even Haga Sophia was a Church

Your logic is flawed

Before a temple there was non-religious ppl living there. Therefore, most Indians are not Hindus.

There no more than 100 such Indians in a billion Hindus. But in paks 200 millions are hateful of Hindus and jealous of india

Why would we be jealous of a nation like India?

 

[Don Jaguar]

What policies? India didn't even have a constitution in place till 1950, the Muslims who left had gone by then for the most part.

I am talking about the demands of muslims before partition.

Like 33% seats in assembly. Provincial autonomy in muslim majority provinces.

 

[Iggy]

The problem is the attitude of hindus who don't want the muslims to prosper.

Tell me what attitude?

If they do not want Muslims to prosper, how come some of the high posisations were decorated by Muslims??

The problem with Muslim backwardness is to be blamed on Muslims themselves..

Most of the people realised the value of education recently..

Muslims girls were forced to marry at a small age..

Now lots of Muslims ventured into higher education and they are getting rewarded..

Don't blame the Hindus for the backwardness, blame the muslim parents.

 

[INDIC]

I am talking about the demands of muslims before partition.

Like 33% seats in assembly. Provincial autonomy in muslim majority provinces.

Except for Punjab, Bengal, Sindh and NWFP, Muslims were not even 20% in any province, so how legitimate was his demand to have 33% seats reserved for Muslims in each province. Tell me the logic.

 

[Mani2020]

before anyone including himself tries to justify let me ask a rational question

is he really a muslim? having khan as a sir name or having a muslim name doesnot mean you have fullfilled all the obligations of being a muslim .

Three major things that raise eyebrow

He is married to a hindu girl while in Islam a muslim man is allowed to marry either a muslim girl or a christen girl and none other

He has small temple in his house whereas Islam strictly forbids any such act

His children are half muslims half hindus ....they recite both Quran verses as well as the hindu religious things

I dont know then where he looks like a muslim .... why indian politicians are treating him like such just because his name sounds like a muslim ....they better keep him with their self and dont try to create a liability on others ...

In all these years he is still not sure who he is ...either you are fully here or fully there ....but he is in b/w ...even if he is doing so just to protect his image in india ...either ways he is a looser

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Only thing that post257 says is that, Muslims were cowardly and did not dare to live with Hindus. The rich Muslims ran off to Pakistan, leaving their poor brothers behind, proving their cowardliness. They have done nothing to improve the Indian Muslims but took away lot of wealth from India after being raised and eating the salt of mother India.
So I think blame is on Muslims. To atone for their cowardice and sin, they should invite all muslims of India to Pakistan. If Indian Muslims don't come, then they should pay Indian Muslims 300 billion per annum because that's the GDP of Indian Muslims.


Reality of Muslim pak is that. The Sunnis are killing non Sunnis thats all.

Sorry couldnt reply to u in the other thread because it is closed.

do u know for what reason they r fighting for??
It is actually to make pak a more islamic nation that is their main purpose. so now if it is then why r the fighting within themselves!! is because they agree that Pak will be a true Muslim country but they dont agree that in which way it will be one, like Iran or Old ottoman empire.

This is the main reason for their fights.
As most of them r Jahils as our 50% of population is not even ''basically educated'' (basic education) so they r jazbati n become angry in small little differences.

Keeping aside my usual trolling if u ask me personally i thing both of them r fools as our Country will always be a Muslim dominated country but Secularism is the Right Way to go for our Country.

 

[KRAIT]

Off topic.

Local News & Indian Social Issue is a BANNED TOPIC

And you are calling me OFF TOPIC post.


Can you see Hypocrisy of the forum ?

before anyone including himself tries to justify let me ask a rational question is he really a muslim? having khan as a sir name or having a muslim name doesnot mean you have fullfilled all the obligations of being a muslim .Three major things that raise eyebrow He is married to a hindu girl while in Islam a muslim man is allowed to marry either a muslim girl or a christen girl and none other He has small temple in his house whereas Islam strictly forbids any such act His children are half muslims half hindus ....they recite both Quran verses as well as the hindu religious things dont know then where he looks like a muslim .... why indian politicians are treating him like such just because his name sounds like a muslim ....they better keep him with their self and dont try to create a liability on others ...In all these years he is still not sure who he is ...either you are fully here or fully there ....but he is in b/w ...even if he is doing so just to protect his image in india ...either ways he is a looser

Well if you are giving this argument that Either you are fully here or Fully there,

Than this might disqualify many Muslims around the world including Pakistanis ?

And who will determine who is True Muslim and Non Muslim ?

 

[Kaniska]

I am talking about the demands of muslims before partition.

Like 33% seats in assembly. Provincial autonomy in muslim majority provinces.

Dear friend...partion is good for us and let us close the chapter...People of India and Pakistan are 2 different people so we need different nation...WHat is the point in arguing somethiing..which was really good thing for both of us....

 

[Don Jaguar]

Except for Punjab, Bengal, Sindh and NWFP, Muslims were not even 20% in any province, so how legitimate was his demand to have 33% seats reserved for Muslims in each province. Tell me the logic.

They demanded this on the bases of area.

Dear friend...partion is good for us and let us close the chapter...People of India and Pakistan are 2 different people so we need different nation...WHat is the point in arguing somethiing..which was really good thing for both of us....

100% agreed.